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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:17 PM (65,018 Views)
andme
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But weaver, Heather didn't give Sonja all of the pictures she was entitled to!!

LOL, Finestra! Maybe Aviva was wearing her "stick in the butt" leg.
Edited by andme, Sep 25 2012, 11:34 AM.
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IcyAll
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I'm pretty sure that Sonja knows how the game is played with plumbers and fine art storage folks -- get them in a scene that will be used for sure (throw in the Countless one for good measure) and you'll get a years' free storage at least.

Now Sonja has two large spots to attractively hang great works of art ... by hot young artists who can be her boyfriends for the space.
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cccharley
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I honestly don't think Sonja meant entitled but that's the word that came out. I think she just wanted to see more photos. Honestly why did they just give her 2 photos out of all of those taken at the shoot? Why didn't she give her the DVD which always comes these days with all the decent shots from a photo shoot? I see a little Bravo set up. I costs nothing to burn a DVD from digital pics already taken.
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andme
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Honestly, if Sonja wants to have a successful company, she needs to take some responsibility. Hire an advertising agency or STFU. She really could learn a lot from Bethenny.
Edited by andme, Sep 25 2012, 12:18 PM.
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CCC, I think the issue is that they spent time retouching two pix, not all. That's a few hours by a pro and so would cost $200 per picture, as a guess. They're not going to give up unretouched pix, could ruin their reputation and it's just not professional.

It's also -- let's face it -- a chance for Holla to prevent Sonja from using her for freebies.
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discomom
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Just watched.
Just wow, Aviva. I'm 51 and I'm not as prudish as Aviva.
Staying out til 2 am (gasp!)
Dancing on the table (gasp!)
I wonder what Lulu thinks about all this, since she can really let her freak flag fly.
Sonja.... I just wish she could find some old guy with a bad heart and lots of money.
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cccharley
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Actually it doesn't cost that much these days to touch up a picture. I know because I just paid for it. I don't want to argue over it. I think she should have seen the pictures first and they should have told her which ones they told her they liked and then picked a couple to fix up. Obviously they skipped that step which is actually usually done. This was not a totally professional shoot. It had Bravo all over it.

This show is far from real and Holla has gotten a huge amount of free publicity from it. Although I now like her that's how I see it.
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cccharley
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Yes Disco - 2 am - is not even late in St. Barths. Clubs don't get going until midnight or else they are empty. She's an idiot and used that as just another slam. Wish she'd just disappear. I can't stand the sight of her or her burned out hair.
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discomom
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I realize 2 am is not late... I'm pretty accustomed to parties in Caribbean/Latin nations. It was my lame attempt at sarcasm.

How old is Aviva anyway? She still sends her daddy to clean up her messes?
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andme
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Awww...your sarcasm isn't lame!! :)
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cccharley
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I got your sarcasm. guess mine wasn't very good. I was riffing on aviva
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IcyAll
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CCC, I have professionally retouched photography, portraits. I also did it in NYC. I know how much I was paid and that's what I base my guesstimate of $200 a picture on. Those are not family pix that need some blemishes removed from them. Back in 1993 I paid a professional $166 for fixing one picture, that included scanning to a digital product. The guy on RH is a professional, named photographer with a reputation. He's not going to let just anyone with Photoshop retouch his pictures. He's got people who do it, or he himself will do it, but at higher cost.

As an example, the picture used of Michelle Pfeiffer on the cover of a magazine cost over $1,500 in retouching.

Michelle is perfect ... now


ETA: Come to think of it, $200 might be way low. They're not cover shots, but the intention would be mass reproduction, so they'd want the one used to be flawless. And fixing Sonja, at nearly 50, would take more than fixing Michelle at 30.
Edited by IcyAll, Sep 25 2012, 03:59 PM.
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cccharley
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Okay I didn't do a family portrait and I used a pro and a professional shop but I still think she should have seen the pics and discussed which ones before just retouching 2 of them. I guess I just think that a lot of stuff is done for shock value on this show and to get a reaction. No way Heather would have even done this with Sonja if not for rhony.
Edited by cccharley, Sep 25 2012, 04:07 PM.
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Gosh, my heart broke for Sonja. I don't know what she did or didn't get in the divorce and I don't know if she blew through the money or never had any to begin with. But her ex should go hang out with Kelsey Grammar, they seem to have come from the same school of trying to act like they were never married to the women who are the mothers of their children. Disgusting. That whole scene also made me lighten up on my usual Lulu hate. She was great with Sonja.

As for Aviva, bitch needs to just STFU. It's like her whole mission in life is to somehow "prove" that Ramona is trash and has turned Sonja into trash. Why? What does she care? Even if Ramona and Sonja were doing it doggy style in St. Barth's, what the hell does it matter to her? And I realize he's her father so she's kind of stuck with him but Aviva has a lot of nerve calling anyone on their behavior when her father acts like a disgusting pig 99% of the time.
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IcyAll
Sep 25 2012, 03:57 PM
As an example, the picture used of Michelle Pfeiffer on the cover of a magazine cost over $1,500 in retouching.

Michelle is perfect ... now


ETA: Come to think of it, $200 might be way low. They're not cover shots, but the intention would be mass reproduction, so they'd want the one used to be flawless. And fixing Sonja, at nearly 50, would take more than fixing Michelle at 30.
Wow. And that's twenty years ago. No wonder I used to have a drawer full of just makeup. I used to believe that shit.

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How old is Aviva anyway? She still sends her daddy to clean up her messes?

Aviva said she was 41 when Holla! asked her to walk in her fashion show. And he only made things worse. Really, can you imagine the elderly father of someone you aren't getting along with showing up at your function and demanding an apology for his daughter? Especially when Aviva caused the problem - first in St. Barths and then again by asking Ramona to meet her for breakfast and then attacking her. I think Ramona's right; no wonder Aviva thinks the world revolves around her.


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