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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:17 PM (65,012 Views)
Finestra
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I think Aviva and Jill are friends already for some reason.

I pay $256/mo for cable, internet and phone. Everytime I call to complain, they give me a few free months of HBO - but that is comcast.

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Freely
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I also heard Aviva and Jill were friends. It was something that Jill said. Boy did she bet (again) on the wrong horse this season.

I would have loved to see a scene with Aviva and Kelly discussing something. They both have a crazy viewpoint.

I bet we'll hear a lot about George being asked to leave Ramona's charity at the reunion. I agree with Ramona that he wore out his welcome.
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Mariah
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I like Holla much more now too.

BUT, I am totally on Sonja's side about all of the "branding" stuff. Sonja went in there QUITE CLEAR about what she wanted for a LOGO. They completely ignored her and gave her a generic Times New Roman font, over and over again. They also made it quite clear that they wanted mucho appreciation for walking over their "client." Then they 9and Holla) repeatedly rubbed it in that Sonja wasn't paying, so fuck her and what her vision was. They were horrible to her, and I include Holla in that.

THEN they give her two boxes and force that ridiculous hunky guy into one of them, even though Sonja was obviously not interested in that one at all? It looked ridiculous. Agree with Sonja and Bethenny on that one, and Holla is STILL pushing that (last night on twitter.)

It was a long time ago, but I used to shoot photos for actors and their head shot sheet. One large head shot on the front, and on the back of the sheet, 4 photos, usually showing their versatility for rolls. It began as a favor to an actress friend of mine, but I was good at it, and before long I was doing it for several who saw her sheet. You take SO MANY photos, choose your favorites, but go over them with the client as well (way back with negatives all printed in sheets, and a magnifying glass,) but the point is, there are a LOT of choices, not just two. Also, I agree that it's ridiculous that all that food was there and prettied up and Sonja gets no shots of that either? It's nuts.

Holla's "pay" was both story and publicity, and we all know that. Instead she shot herself in the foot, because she and her "team" showed how lazy and pushy they are, and that they don't give a fuck what the client wants, and oh by the way, thank us and tell us we are brilliant a lot. Would YOU ever pay those people? I sure wouldn't.

Other than that I like her. Sonja's blog talks quite a bit about this, by the way.

Oh, and apparently that party/fashion show had about 500 people, all milling around and talking, most not watching the "fashion show" at all. The whole "here are your two photos" thing happened the day before. Oh, and Sonja already had one of Martha Stewart's people lined up for the whole "get Bravo time and help me with my branding" deal, but since Holla was a new wife, Sonja went ahead and used her, which gave Holla something to do and Bravo kills two storyline birds with one stone.

No Jill and Aviva. Please and Thank You God. At least Aviva appears to have a brain, she's actually listening to her PR people, and apologizing and shutting the fuck up.
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Oh, and Sonja already had one of Martha Stewart's people lined up for the whole "get Bravo time and help me with my branding" deal, but since Holla was a new wife, Sonja went ahead and used her, which gave Holla something to do and Bravo kills two storyline birds with one stone.


Martha Stewart dodged a bullet on that one. Maybe Martha can help her with her headband line.

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Holla's "pay" was both story and publicity, and we all know that. Instead she shot herself in the foot, because she and her "team" showed how lazy and pushy they are, and that they don't give a fuck what the client wants, and oh by the way, thank us and tell us we are brilliant a lot. Would YOU ever pay those people? I sure wouldn't.
I think Sonja is the one who has come off looking lazy. And now she's "backing off" the toaster oven idea? Probably because she would have actually had to do some work herself.
Edited by andme, Oct 2 2012, 02:18 PM.
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Finestra
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I think Aviva doesn't say much in her blog because she gets a lot of push back at the reunion from all of the wives re her behavior, so it would look ridiculous to write a blog defending herself now only to back pedal on next week's reunion airing.
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Just finished it off on in demand.

Didn't love Holla this episode. Still think she did everything for Sonja bc of Bravo not out of her little heart. I also don't get why she asked Aviva to walk in the show and nobody else. Guess it was to piss Ramona off. Of course Aviva was disgusting not to follow orders. What a bitch she is. Now did she do that as well bc of producers? I don't know what to believe anymore. It's all so fake.

Lulu definitive had botox like the rest of them. Not a forehead line to be found or a frown line - lots of botox. Must say Ramona looks great. Whoever does her make up makes her glow considering the amount she imbibes. Give me that dr or make up person if I ever left the apt to need it.

Rye - Bethenny has now patented high ponytails? What a joke. Maybe a high pony and a marg. at the same time. I just saw some commercials for other low cal prefabricated drinks on TV last week. Lots of competition coming. She sold at the right time and I'm sure she doesn't much care now that she has her talk show.

I hated the guy behind Sonja's toaster oven thing. Gross. Seriously turned me off.

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By the way guys, I just started that tech thread, hopefully others also want to talk about what is worth the money, and how much we all pay for the various TV/phone/internet stuff, as well as all of the technology choices we have to drain our bank accounts. ;)

Sonja isn't backing off the toaster oven, but she has a whole concept in mind. Will it ever happen? Maybe. I actually think it could work, but she should at least get the damn book out there. She's flaky, but I still think Holla was a bitch (and wrong) about that whole thing.
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andme
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I agree, Mariah. Sonja should at least have the book done by now. She's missed a lot of opportunities to sell it on the show.

Why did Sonja need new pictures of the toaster oven? Didn't she take some last season? I think it's just an attempt to give her a storyline. Because if she's not flashing her cooch or ordering around interns, what else can they show?

Also...the toaster oven isn't in production yet, right? So what was the oven they used in the pictures?
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She should have had the toaster oven out, for sure. But it seems she needs a manufacturer to sponsor her and she either hasn't the right contacts or they're turned her down. Maybe they think HER shelf life is too limited. Shame. I'd buy one.
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Icy - I don't recall, is there anything special about the toaster oven she wants to sell as opposed to ones that are currently on the market? She probably would be better off doing a cookbook.
Edited by andme, Oct 2 2012, 02:51 PM.
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Finestra
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Weren't the panty-free photos on the dining room table for the fabled cookbook?
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LOL...I think you're right, Finestra. So, why didn't she ever do a cookbook? A little less entertaining of royalty and a little more work, Miss Sonja.
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Mariah
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In her blog she talks about being badly burned with the whole movie production thing, and that it's made her cautious about contracts for this particular dream. Honestly, she doesn't have the money, and is probably wary about backers. She also seems to want to unveil an entire line.

She should do what Bethenny did. ONE product first, build from that. Or do the cookbook and toaster oven together and separately, then the rest, IF the first ones sell.
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Oct 2 2012, 02:51 PM
Icy - I don't recall, is there anything special about the toaster oven she wants to sell as opposed to ones that are currently on the market? She probably would be better off doing a cookbook.
I don't remember anything that Sonja said about "her" toaster oven being different from others out there.

I'd rather keep mine and would love appetizer recipes, honestly. She should do a cookbook.
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weaver
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She tweeted about a cookbook for ages, but I guess there were no takers. I wouldn't work with her; she is not diciplined or focused.

Look at her website, other than glam shots of her, what does it have. A video where she toaster ovens steak and onions while making sexy poses?
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