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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:17 PM (65,007 Views)
Freely
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Just watched it. I agree, Finestra, "you need a new therapist" was great.

LuAnn's lipstick shade was too light - maybe a darker shade would have been harsh, but there is a medium somewhere there. Loved Carole's shoes. I want them. And I'm not much of a fashion person.

Aviva was telling her story yet again (how many times has she told it?) to try to gain sympathy. I mean, I got it already. She went through an awful, terrifying accident at a young age. It's very tragic, horrifying and sad but she needs to get past telling everyone about it in detail. That is my opinion.

I'm looking forward to hearing about the pirate and more about George. I hope they discuss him.
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I wonder if Luann and Jacques are still together.

Maybe Holla!'s posture is so good because of the yummy tummy. If so, I have to get me some.

As much as Ramona is an unfiltered mess, she was right about Aviva.

Funny how Luann and Ramona have come to some sort of pact. Dealing with the devil on both sides. Both must feel threatened by the new chicks.

On and Carole, I am sure you are really glad to be on the couch. Do you think Andy was saying "which" couch or rather that you were on the show at all this season?
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The Ho shows will age you. I always say that.

Loved Sonja's dress and her hairstyle. Getting my hair cut this week and may need to print that out but I need bangs bc I can't afford botox right now.

Ramona always wears those dumb dresses but her face looked great.

I didn't mind Lulu's dress. I love that silk. It feels so good on but I guess it looked a little nightgown like when she was sitting. I didn't see the whole thing yet so I didn't see her stand in it.

Heather looked good for Heather. I think she is very confident and it shows. I don't find her attractive but she does have awesome thick hair.

Aviva looked washed out. Guess she was going for her classic UES look but she couldn't pull it off. Also those false eyelashes she was wearing looked horrid. Just liked Lisa's on BH's look terrible. Just get some good mascara ladies or get those pro falsies where they add a few small ones to add to your regular lashes. The ones that go all the way across always look so fake and certainly did on her because of her extra light hair and skin.
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You remind me, CCC, of her fake eyelashes cast down on her cheeks as she "bravely" flew to St. Bart's. They took something away from the tableau, IMO.


BTW, anyone else annoyed by Holla's protection of Carole? Twice (at least) she answered for Carole when someone challenged Ratz over something or another. I was thinking "shut the fuck up, let HER answer"... OTOH, I hate an unmatched fight and Holla, at least, can send that ball back over the net.
Edited by IcyAll, Oct 9 2012, 11:47 AM.
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I agree, Icy. I like Heather...but she was butting that nose into arguments that she had nothing to do with. I have the same issue with Ramona. And with everyone of the damn NJ housewives.
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Two funny quotes from posters at TWOP:

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Methinks that Luanne does not appreciate being 3rd Samoan to the left to Carole’s Margaret Mead. I, on the other hand, find it amusing as all get out.


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I liked Aviva's story about how she lost her leg. Especially the part where Daddy George whispered in her ear..."scream, Clarisse, scream for the lambs.."
Which is not creepy at all.
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I am over Carole. She's snippy and not in a good way anymore.
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Posting over at TWOP, having caught up to the end of the discussion so far ... posted this:


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My question for Aviva would be "how did you get to your parent's place in Jamaica all those years if not by plane? How do you get to Miami? If these phobias developed after you had children, why do you constantly relive the experience of having your foot trapped in a machine?"

I was insulted by her "can't fly with my daughter to Paris" comment. 1. I think she was talking about her natural daughter, not her daughter she claimed when she said "I'm the mother of four" -- Reid's daughter from his first marriage. Just a suspicion. 2. Waaah! I can't do something really fun that I was BORN to do! waaaah! STFU, Aviva. I can't afford gas money to go into town. I can't afford toys my nephew would like to have. I can't afford car repairs. Yes, you're a wealthy woman. But TRY to relate to the fucking audience, or get the fuck off TV.

I do think it's funny that the Countess felt she was being told she wasn't good enough. Miss "don't introduce me to the driver by my first name. It's Countess de Lesseps." Miss "everyone is Darling" ... she took advantage of Carole. Barely on the show, texted twice got no reply so she called her. Carole's not as strong against the current when it's in her face, so she caved and arranged the meeting. When it blew up she was embarrassed. She spoke to Luann and IMO did not put it in an insulting way -- she reminded Luann that there are LEVELS (and here's the irony, right?) and that the Kahns don't jump for joy at the prospect of loaning a dress to someone to be in Life & Style. (? does L&S list the costs of dresses in the footnotes or back section? yeah, same as Vogue, right?)


I want Nancy Grace back on WWHL, because it seems there's a lot of "blame the victim" going on in RH world.

Ramona deserved for George to halt her progress and insist she do what he wanted ... because she touched him first. That she touched him in a benign way, doesn't matter.
Sonja deserved for George to poke her with his erection ... because she doesn't wear panties. Aren't we past the "dressed like a hooker" mentality?
On RHONJ, Teresa deserves to be yelled at and marginalized (thanks to the poster here who used that perfect description) ... because she's strong enough to take it.
Ramona deserves every awful thing the other women think or say about her or do to her ... because she's Ramona and has done worse to others. Well, I like Dexter, too.


On the topic of George, poor George ... Aviva said "bodyguards" were used to "throw him out" ... not as I saw it. I saw some slight actor-type waiters speaking with scant male "authority" to stop George from stalking Ramona at her own event. He was doing the creepy guy thing and all they did was say "come on, let's go." I don't recall them even touching him, let alone "throwing" him out. Once outside, he was able to linger in the hallway talking to Carole while he elevator came to take them out. Maybe the cameras being there in his face inflamed him to make that comment, but it was in his vocabulary. Obviously, the discussion of this will be within next week's reunion moments and that's interesting, because it says to me that Aviva left it out of her apology phase deliberately. This means she intends to be back as aggressor, which also belies her sincerity in making any apologies.
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Icy, thanks for the reminder on the Lulu/Ramona thing. And the TWoP quotes are hilarious. ;)

weaver I think you're right: Luann does not seem to have any relationships on this show. She was so huge and horrid as Jill's consigliere last season but seems deflated this season. Maybe Lulu needs to be on top at all times and she's a very easy target - especially with this infusion of new ho-wives. Still, I can't imagine RHONY without her.

I'm still liking Carole. I loved her polite yet direct jab at Lulu's beloved Countess title; something we all know is vitally important to Luann despite her protest last night that she rarely uses it - which made Andy's head snap. I think we were both remembering seasons 1-4 [especially S1] when she was all over that title. And it wasn't that long ago she was telling Andy she didn't really want to get married again - she would lose her title.

Finestra you are right about the best closing line last night, Ramona's "You need a new therapist." Loved it.

ETA: Icy, I just read your post [I think we posted at the same time] and I loved it. Aviva's "Waaaaa, I can't take my daughter to Paris alone. It's my cross to bear." really got me too. She honestly has no idea how good she has it - arguably a common ho-wife thread but one I find beyond gross. Even Ramona gets that there are are people who would probably give up a limb for the privileges Aviva has enjoyed.
Edited by Cosmocrush, Oct 9 2012, 04:52 PM.
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Yes, something is going on when Ramona is the voice of reason! Honestly, I know people like Aviva exist, but I hate being reminded of it.

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I love black and gold so I loved Carole's dress but it was way too short. One wrong move and she wouldn't taken the audience into labia land and I don't have a passport nor visa for that trip.
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Seriously Andy? "Hey Sonja, do you only like to take it up the ass?" (not exact quote)

I like Luann more now that her knickers showed. Quite real with "what do you want Ramona, blood?" Loved Ramona shutting Andy down about her drinking too much, and the other women agreeing with her.
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Does anyone, with the exception of maybe Jacques, really believe that Lulu didn't schtup the greasy pirate??
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Not me. The only thing that had me thinking twice about it was that she woke up Heather to join them for cocktails. It's possible she passed out though, and Tomas just left...ha.
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Isn't it sad that I believe Sonja didn't bang him and that LuLu did?

I'm ready for this season to be ovah. this reunion has been so boring. And I love me some Ramoner, but her mouth is almost as jacked up as Carole's. Loved the bumper about her wonky lipstick b/c it seriously looks like someone with the shakes applied it.

ETA - Another reunion and another Ramoner cooch flap. What the hell is with her and flapping her dresses to air out her crotch?
Edited by Shoppergal, Oct 15 2012, 11:01 PM.
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LOL, Shopper. Ramona appears to have had a tragic lip injection accident made worse by make-up application by Shaky the Clown.

Uh oh...does Ramoaner have the menopause swamp crotch?

These ladies are like a breath of fresh air after the NJ reunion.
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