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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:29 PM (63,112 Views)
WillyWonka
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I don't know exactly what or why, but IMO there was some fishy editing going on both with the phone call and the vineyard sex.

I don't think they were doing it out there in the vineyard. For one thing, Joe still had his pants up. I also think there was a reason they only showed them from the shoulders down. Had they shown their faces too, we would have seen that the conversation and noises we were hearing didn't match up to what they were actually saying at all. That said, it was also pretty obvious they were told to walk off and act like they were fooling around. Why they went along with it is anyone's guess and pretty idiotic on the Giudice's part if you ask me.

As for the phone call, that's Joe's voice and he's saying what we heard him say, but again I think there was a reason they didn't just show him on the phone saying those things but had them in a voiceover instead. Editing trickery if you ask me.

That said, if Tree keeps up with this "he was just talking to a worker" BS story and continues to allow people to think that what Bravo aired wasn't edited so much as to make this a fictional TV show, then I personally am totally disgusted with her. Regardless of anything else, she has children who will surely hear about all of this and who will one day probably watch this and at the end of the day (tm Kathy Wakile), those two are their parents and they are just kids. And now, saved for posterity, is their mother on camera asking their father if he'd like to go stick his finger up her butt hole. Lovely.

Oh, and Caroline? For all of your poo pooing about everyone else's bad behavior, did you notice that your husband Al Sr. was standing there taking pictures of Joe Gorga climbing all over that statue? Klassy!
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Aug 20 2012, 03:37 AM
Richie's been bonding with them and only throwing shade towards Tree and Juicy. So NOW they're bothered? And fuck them all the way to Hell and back anyway -- why should Tree forgive them for anything? For all the shit they say about her in THs? For all the names Richie calls her? Because Kathy is "nice"? Fuck no. This is a woman with no discernible skill except burning sugar in new and interesting ways, who came on a show her cousin was on without telling the cousin until a contract was signed. She's been torturing Tree until everyone started dissing KATHY ... THAT's why Kathy and Richie want Tree to "let it go and get over it" ... because of how THEY LOOK. So fuck that. And fuck that Clown who seems to think she's the Chief Supreme Justice of the Court of Public Opinion. Real people don't agree with you, Clownie.

Burning sugar in new and interesting ways - LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aug 20 2012, 09:37 AM
I don't know exactly what or why, but IMO there was some fishy editing going on both with the phone call and the vineyard sex.

I don't think they were doing it out there in the vineyard. For one thing, Joe still had his pants up. I also think there was a reason they only showed them from the shoulders down. Had they shown their faces too, we would have seen that the conversation and noises we were hearing didn't match up to what they were actually saying at all. That said, it was also pretty obvious they were told to walk off and act like they were fooling around. Why they went along with it is anyone's guess and pretty idiotic on the Giudice's part if you ask me.

As for the phone call, that's Joe's voice and he's saying what we heard him say, but again I think there was a reason they didn't just show him on the phone saying those things but had them in a voiceover instead. Editing trickery if you ask me.

That said, if Tree keeps up with this "he was just talking to a worker" BS story and continues to allow people to think that what Bravo aired wasn't edited so much as to make this a fictional TV show, then I personally am totally disgusted with her. Regardless of anything else, she has children who will surely hear about all of this and who will one day probably watch this and at the end of the day (tm Kathy Wakile), those two are their parents and they are just kids. And now, saved for posterity, is their mother on camera asking their father if he'd like to go stick his finger up her butt hole. Lovely.

Oh, and Caroline? For all of your poo pooing about everyone else's bad behavior, did you notice that your husband Al Sr. was standing there taking pictures of Joe Gorga climbing all over that statue? Klassy!
But JoeGo is Caroline's little pet monkey. He is just so funny and sweet. Watch how she slowly turns on him and Melissa. Caroline has to have someone to hate, Danielle, Teresa and soon JoeGo and Melissa.

I agree totally about the editing of the "phone call" The body language of Joe and Teresa was off. Even when Teresa smacked him in the arm he sort of laughed at her and said "ow". I wouldn't put it past any of the NJ hubbies to cheat, but that whole set up.. something wasn't right.

Teresa's toast? Basically she thanked Jac and Chris for inviting her and expressed her happiness at reconnecting with JoeGo and Mel. Caroline's Bday was tossed in as an afterthought. I don't know what Kathy expected or even WHY she expected to be mentioned.
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Tree's gonna say it was a worker at the reunion...that's my prediction. I don't believe it was- but she's gonna say she checked the number and it was a worker. I say , if he's been cheating for years and she doesn't give a crap (and that's what I think) it's their business; I'm just sad it's out there because of their daughters. Some people have a different mentality with cheating; I think that's what they have: "don't ask, don't tell".

I was wondering, too, if they could have possibly actually boinked in the Vineyard- his pants looked completely up. That said- still gross- like one of my male cats before he was neutered; trying to spray the couch to mark his territory...
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WillyWonka
Aug 20 2012, 09:37 AM
I don't know exactly what or why, but IMO there was some fishy editing going on both with the phone call and the vineyard sex.

I don't think they were doing it out there in the vineyard. For one thing, Joe still had his pants up. I also think there was a reason they only showed them from the shoulders down. Had they shown their faces too, we would have seen that the conversation and noises we were hearing didn't match up to what they were actually saying at all. That said, it was also pretty obvious they were told to walk off and act like they were fooling around. Why they went along with it is anyone's guess and pretty idiotic on the Giudice's part if you ask me.
Thank God for someone clear-headed. I think you're 100% right -- Joe probably snuck an actual PRIVATE moment away to make that call, but forgot he had the mic pack on (Jill Zarin calling Alex Mc a name at the wedding.) I believe the call was real, but you are completely accurate -- WHY THEN? And the body language ... they tacked it onto a real call to "Pete" ... sneaky editing monkeys.

What is also disgusting ... Richie, giving a blow-by-blow "Oh, she's got her legs up ... I can see her chuckie ... he's thrusting" .... I mean, practically. And acting all shocked, like he's not the asshole who was displaying his erect morning sausage a few days back, giving everyone in his RV a wake-up call from Hell. Shut the fuck up, Richie. As Willy points out, since Juicy never dropped trou, it's not likely they were "doing it" ... even Tree has better sense than to go behind a bush.


I think Clownie's already disgusted with JoeGo. She's just got enough on her hate plate dealing with Tree. If the Gorgas are back next season, I'm sure she'll take aim ... that is, if my prayers are not answered and SHE isn't gone.
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The editing disconnect you guys are seeing...do you think that the sun is down more when Joe is on the phone, then it seems a bit brighter when they're nailing in the vineyard? I can't tell, but there might be something tricky with the sunlight there. Anyone?
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Aug 20 2012, 01:01 PM
The editing disconnect you guys are seeing...do you think that the sun is down more when Joe is on the phone, then it seems a bit brighter when they're nailing in the vineyard? I can't tell, but there might be something tricky with the sunlight there. Anyone?
Even Joe's comments "here she comes" "my bitch of a wife" "she's a cunt" they all seemed like short snips of a conversation and spliced together to make it sound like they were said at the same time. Here she comes and my bitch of a wife, clearly about Teresa, but "she's a cunt"? He could have been talking about Caroline....
And I still say when Teresa punched him he was grinning at her, even his "ow" was exaggerated like he does when she grabs him or pinches him other times. Something in the whole scene is off.
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Yep, I think so, too. Perhaps that is what Tre meant in her tweet about being a "loyal employee". She knew it didn't really go down that way, but was willing to take a hit for the Bravo team and ratings.
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Jiminy Christmas, Velvet -- great catch! It IS brighter when they're behind the vines!
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Aug 20 2012, 03:33 PM
Jiminy Christmas, Velvet -- great catch! It IS brighter when they're behind the vines!
Also a lot of what we hear Tre saying after the phone call and Joe's refusals are things that are remarkably similar to things they were saying on the way to the vineyards.Tre kept telling Joe Go to pull over so they could sneak a quickie in the vineyard. Joe Giu kept telling her then to stop it also.
I think it was the same bit when Melissa made the crack about Tre being a famewhore and making a sex tape.
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I was wondering, too, if they could have possibly actually boinked in the Vineyard


If they did maybe 2012 will be a great year for the Chateau Levendi!!! A little something extra happened to the grapes that year.
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Joe probably snuck an actual PRIVATE moment away to make that call, but forgot he had the mic pack on (Jill Zarin calling Alex Mc a name at the wedding.) I believe the call was real, but you are completely accurate -- WHY THEN? And the body language ...

Joe didn't make that call - he ANSWERED that call. I don't know if it was another woman and I don't care but Teresa dryhumping Joe in the vinyard while everyone else was yards away was beyond gross even for this bunch. They are the Jersey Shore cast in 20 years.

I love how how they decide to make that sunset dinner Clownie's birthday party - even after noting that her birthday was the week(s?) before just so everyone could pay homage to her. And I might be wrong but I thought she was 51 in the first season so how is she just turning 50 now?

Edited by Cosmocrush, Aug 20 2012, 04:57 PM.
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A little something extra happened to the grapes that year.
Vulvic acid?
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Acccck! Hahahaha! Good one andme!!

I agree that Kathy is too sensitive to Tre but she's also not the sharpest knife in the drawer. I don't think she would have felt slighted by Tre's toast except Clownie made a big deal about how rude it was, and how mean it was, and how she just gave Kathi a big talking to about how rude and mean Tre treats her.

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I agree that Kathy is too sensitive to Tre but she's also not the sharpest knife in the drawer. I don't think she would have felt slighted by Tre's toast except Clownie made a big deal about how rude it was, and how mean it was, and how she just gave Kathi a big talking to about how rude and mean Tre treats her.


Agree. Mountain made out of a little tiny molehill. This stuff happens. People forget. Hell every year come Oscar time you read in the paper about some winner making mea culpas for forgetting to thank their spouse or some other very important person in their life during their acceptance speech. That's why the smart ones offer a blanket thank you, turn on their heals and exit stage left. Once you start singling out people to thank it is a slippery slope Clownie-town.
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