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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:29 PM (63,088 Views)
Finestra
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Icy your point about Ritchie and Kathy not leaving with them - Cow posted last night as damning evidence against Tre that Tre and Juicy didn't leave with Melissa and JoeGo like they had done for Tre in Napa. Um, they were just fighting and blaming Tre.

Melissa's smug smile when she calls JoeGo and the lack of any "Set Up" makes me think she was in on setting up Teresa.

ICY how did they know the texts were from the producer at Tw0p

So Cow's vitriol all stems from Tre outing her as a stripper. Ha! Play with fire and shit stir and see what happens Jax! Karma baby.

I have no doubt that Chris told Juicy that Jax was a stripper - in the Catskills Chris acknowledged that Cow gave the best blow jobs - I am sure he mentioned her other exploits.
Edited by Finestra, Sep 24 2012, 07:43 AM.
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From TWOP..this cracked me up.

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Richie dresses like one of the kids from at Fat Albert's gang (as in Bill Cosby, not Caroline's fat Albert).
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Finestra
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I just watched to preview of the reunion and Lauren gets a seat next to Caroline. Andy asks Teresa if she thinks Caroline is a good mother. She says she thinks her kids are great.........but now they have Blk but before they didn't have jobs. That she has had a job since she was 14. Lauren is all, "what they didn't work at the Brownstone?"

Then she goes on to say that Caroline has three rolls of blubber and had a tummy tuck. Caroline admits she had one when she was 39, but that she doesn't have botox or fillers, and then Tre tells her she needs them - she is on tv and she needs to look better.

Lauren says that what Tre said causes people to kill themselves and that she got a lapband because of dickheads like Tre. Tre said Lauren took the easy way out and wouldn't work for it.

I am hoping Teresa lets fly all their nasty little secrets, at least then they will have a real reason for hating her.
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Sep 24 2012, 09:10 AM
I just watched to preview of the reunion and Lauren gets a seat next to Caroline. Andy asks Teresa if she thinks Caroline is a good mother. She says she thinks her kids are great.........but now they have Blk but before they didn't have jobs. That she has had a job since she was 14. Lauren is all, "what they didn't work at the Brownstone?"

Then she goes on to say that Caroline has three rolls of blubber and had a tummy tuck. Caroline admits she had one when she was 39, but that she doesn't have botox or fillers, and then Tre tells her she needs them - she is on tv and she needs to look better.

Lauren says that what Tre said causes people to kill themselves and that she got a lapband because of dickheads like Tre. Tre said Lauren took the easy way out and wouldn't work for it.

I am hoping Teresa lets fly all their nasty little secrets, at least then they will have a real reason for hating her.
What Tre said causes people to kill themselves? How about a mother calling her daughter 5 lbs of sausage in a two lb sack? or her brothers calling her a hog and a pig ?

Tre has NEVER said a word against Carolines kids or anyone kids. Or ever said anything about Lauren's weight.
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I find it amazing that Bravo does not realize that the outpouring of support of Teresa is a sign that there is something seriously wrong with Bravo backing the Manzos/Gorgas. How could someone who was almost universally disliked (some despised, some mocked) have people supporting her? On the Bravo blogs, the anti-Jax/Melissa "likes" on the comments are about 2 or 3 to 1 in favor of Teresa.

Teresa has gone from a stupid, vapid, table-throwing, overspending sidekick with a criminal husband to the underdog. Melissa's plan back-fired.

Looks like the reunion is still a bunch of self-righteous Manzo with Melissa playing the innocent all ganging up on Teresa.
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Sep 24 2012, 06:02 AM
With your nudge, Cosmo, I had to go read at TWOP. 15 pages, I followed the rule. Found this very interesting post:

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Originally I thought the texts must have come from Kim G also, but it's since been confirmed that they came from producer Cat Rodriguez, who is a close friend of Melissa and doesn't like Teresa. It appears that the entire thing was to set up Teresa, not Melissa, and that because of this and the editing two producers, Cat Rodriguez and Caroline Self have been fired from the show. Also Angelo Vrohidis has denied in interviews that Teresa knew anything about it and confirms that he didn't know her until that day when she came into the salon and that she had no idea he'd be at the fashion show. As far as Jacqueline making a big deal out of Teresa going to the salon instead of having her makeup done at home Alure Salon was a sponsor for the show. Red carpet photos show them standing in front of a backdrop that reads Alure Salon. The thing I don't understand is how anyone thought it was a setup towards Melissa anyway since he really didn't do anything except stop by the table and say "Hello. Do you remember me?" and leave. I would think they were setting Melissa up he would have said "Hello. Do you remember me? You used to dance for me in a strip club" in front of all the ladies.



OK. So if this is indeed the case - it was a producer driven thing intended to have Melissa coming out smelling like a rose - I can see why Andy is so pissed off. It really put him in a shitty position. Because of the timing of the PFS in relation to the Season 3 reunion and the ultimate outcome of THAT, Andy didn't have any choice but to make this stupid 'set up' part of the story this season. He had to have a way to explain why the cast turned on Tree so viciously and why Jax refused to show up. It was all over the press that there had been an incident at the PFS (and we call all guess who called the tabs - MELISSA). He had to leave this insanity in the season.

But, man alive, I bet he is beyond angry with those producers. No wonder they got shit canned. They played favorites so egregiously that they concocted a poorly executed 'set up' of Melissa that made it entirely obvious that Tree was not involved. They tried to damage the ONE person on this show that is making a shit ton of cash for Andy - Teresa. I think Andy has tired of Mama Manzo and her 'fambly' schtick and Melissa just grates.

After all this, I think Melissa, Jax, and Clownie should go. BUH-BYE. I suspect that at the very least Jax and Clown will leave. I think that Kathy will be able to mend fences with her cousin when she can work on things without the benefit of those to shit stirrers in her ear all the time. If Melissa wants to stay and try to shake her tits for money - go ahead. (as an aside, it really is all about $$$ for this Ho. Did you catch her comment about working at Lookers? "It was a bikini bar. You serve a drink and some old guy hands you a $100 bill. I'd be STUPID not to work there!" She has voiced the same sentiment in regards to marrying JoGo. No wonder Tree sees her as a gold digger.)
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I still think something went down between Tre and Andy. Although she may be a cash cow he does not like this woman. She did something bad and I don't mean just the push at the reunion. Something else went down and we'll probably never know what it is because he really dislikes her and her asshole, albeit funny, dh. Just my opinion.
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I hope someone calls into the reunion and asks Clonie just what the fuck she is doing hanging around with her mother and her mother's buddies. Does she not have a life, anyone her own age to party with? How does she have so much time to spend at a reunion ( i heard it was upwards of a 10 hr day), doesn't her business need her? Maybe someone should ask Andy the same question. Why is Lauren there?
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Kim D will be there too. He announced it on WWHL
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My theory is that Tre is, and always will be, the worst of the bunch. Don't get me wrong, they're all bad, but imo, Teresa is the queen of mean. Well, okay....next to Caroline.

Bravo is doing what they're brilliant at. They're 'helping us along' in being sympathetic to Teresa because she's the only one that has a marketable product to sell right now. Nobody would buy her stuff if everyone still hated her. Like we did in season one. So Bravo very stealthly and cleverly started turning the tide in her favor. Fucking brilliant. I think by replaying epis over and over again, they're also slowly brainwashing us. LOL

How many more cookbooks did she sell this week because everyone is so sick of the Tre pile-up so here's my 20 bucks, Tre. Take THAT, Caroline. And rrrrrringggg go Bravo's cash registers.

Tre may or may not have set up Mellissa. BUT she's awful enough to do such a thing. She's so friggin' hateful. Not that I don't enjoy watching her but once an angry Silverback, always an angry Silverback.

If Caroline came up with a product that would sell successfully, I would bet my life on Bravo using their masterful manipulations to make her the sympathetic character next season. I don't think it's that far fetched. Think about how hated Teresa and Julicy were those first couple seasons.
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Finestra
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Ryebread you might be right about Bravo.

But the other women don't have that excuse. They are just down right awful.
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Rye I actually agree with most of what you are saying. She wouldn't have such nasty little children if they didn't hear her being nasty herself. Gia is outgrowing it a little but the way she dresses her she'll be knocked up by 18. Look how she dresses her.

Sorry I hated Tre's dress last night. It was hideous. I get that you wanted her to dress tacky but that was straight out of the 80s Look at the shoulders. She also has chunky legs which Melissa doesn't have and she must hate that. No matter how hard she works she can't get rid of those muscles. She could beat the crap out of me. So she actually goes after clone at the reunion yet she uses botox, gets boob jobs etc. What a hypocrite and a woman hater to tell someone they NEED botox. Although I love the stuff I would never ever tell even an enemy who is a woman they need to use poison in them. She is hateful. I think the entire setup was a clusterfuck and stupid cow really didn't know what was going on. I seriously don't think she is that evil just dumb.

Let me add that her Joe is taking the easy way out by filing bankruptcy. He also tried to take the easy way out by using his bro's license. He is also cheating on her. Wonder why? Because she's a huge bitch. I don't think it's right if only because they are public figures - albeit low class ones - but because they have 4 children. Those kids will go into a tailspin if they hear that from friends at school. Bet some of Gia's friends get to watch the show. I feel sorry for her. My kid is 6 and has caught some of these shows just because it's on when she's passing through the room but man I would stop as a kid if I saw my friend or friend's mom on a tv show. I'm sure some of those moms in the neighborhood who dislike -or as Tre thinks are all jealous of her - will let their children watch the show. The fall out will be awful. Poor girls.
Edited by cccharley, Sep 24 2012, 10:40 AM.
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I'm actually surprised she's not moving from her monstrosity of a mcmansion just to get out of town.
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My thoughts?

I don't think Tre was in on the setup. I think it was Bravo and Kim D. To me, Tre constantly had this look on her face like the hamster in her head was running 100mph on that wheel, trying to get the brain cells to fire. I got the impression that she knew something was happening, it wasn't going to be good, but really she isn't smart enough to put it all together that fast. That said, it became pretty apparent pretty fast that Kim D. was heavily involved and yet we never see Tre calling her on it.

Melissa didn't react in a logical manner IMO. I think if some man came up to me and said "Do you remember me? You used to work for me," if I had no idea who he was I would have said so. "I'm so sorry, you look so familiar but I just can't place you. Where did we work together?" Wouldn't that be the obvious question? Unless you already knew. But then she could have said "Oh right, I bartended at the bar you managed!" Beyond that, I'm not sure what she knew or didn't know.

If Jax was getting texts all night about what was going to go down, why didn't SHE warn Melissa? If the texts were coming from one of the producers, I get that she couldn't say that on camera and had to just call that person "a friend". But still, if she had time to sit at that table and text Caroline and Lauren about it, she could have texted Melissa about it.

I still don't think Tre is as innocent as people seem to think. For all of her "I don't talk about the others" BS, she actually does, quite a bit. She made the Jax was a stripper comment on the air, she's implied that Caroline and Al's marriage isn't what it appears, etc.

I think the funny part about it all is that normally this kind of thing would get me riled up but I just don't care. I still watch, I'll watch the reunion, but it's like watching a fictional, scripted TV show for me now. I think they're all nuts!

I also agree with Rye and CCC. Tre has made several just nasty comments about Caroline, etc. She loves to pretty much call her an old lady, she makes nasty comments about her appearance, etc. It's like she's 12 and can't make a logical argument so she resorts to "Yo Mama wears combat boots" type insults.

I also think Tre won't divorce Juicy both because she doesn't want to prove Caroline, etc. right but also because she's now alienated everyone in her own family except her parents and so all she has left is Juicy's family. If she left him, she'd really be alone family-wise.
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Sep 24 2012, 09:52 AM
(as an aside, it really is all about $$$ for this Ho. Did you catch her comment about working at Lookers? "It was a bikini bar. You serve a drink and some old guy hands you a $100 bill. I'd be STUPID not to work there!" She has voiced the same sentiment in regards to marrying JoGo. No wonder Tree sees her as a gold digger.)
Whoa! GREAT CATCH! You're right. "I saw all his money, I'd be stupid not to marry him" is what Teresa accused Melissa of saying about her brother, and Melissa denied it. Then she says the same thing on camera. Interesting.
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