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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:29 PM (63,074 Views)
Shoppergal
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If the blogs are all her- and I guess it's possible- then I think she's a very good writer- so....I'm just not sure. Those blogs hit EVERY single point and pander to her fan base without being obnoxious. I guess my personal belief is and has been this year that she has major help with her blogs- and I thought it was one of the smartest things she's done- if that's what she's done. I think a large reason she's become a fan favorite is because those blogs literally explain everything. Even if the things in the blog are clearly not true or one-sided- they're written so well that even I start believing it's all true- that it happened exactly that way. If Tree has an unscripted appearance- she can't convince me of anything- in the blogs- I buy everything. maybe she's just good with the written word- but it's a stretch- just for me


Ok - I was waiting all day to post that - my phone sucks - no one get the Samsung Galaxy III, I managed to post a one liner above, but this I couldn't quite get out. Firstly the howives act like it's a sin to get help. To me, it doesn't matter, some of them (Cow I'm looking at you) should have someone proof read their stuff.

Last night was a big contrast for me, to Ranjake's point, last night showed how well Tre's handlers do with her. When one on one, but mostly in her blogs - she comes across as logical and I buy it all. But when unscripted and against all the other hoes the wheels fall off the bus. I give her some credit I guess b/c for instance, when she's on WWHL in a smaller venue she usually makes sense. I'm thinking in particular to her one on one with Andy after the Napa episodes aired. She gave very cogent responses, with Andy's hate on for her I doubt he gave her a copy of the questions before hand. Now I still don't believe she set up Missy, and I believe the other girls are jelly.

Ugh, I hate the Clown, but I could see that she was actually trying to reason with Tre during that one moment when she put her hand on Tre's knee, and more importantly Tre's response was just maddening. She lacks any sort of reasoning or ability to project. Like hey, if that comment hurt you, then maybe your similar comment hurt her. Must be exhausting and the icing on the cake is she's the most successful.


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I think that's just it for me though. She claims to be all about being authentic and honest and real and she just keeps proving how fake she is. Not just the physical with the fake boobs and fake tan and fake hair but by trying to claim she writes her own blogs and cookbooks and is some brilliant businesswoman. Her business strength is that she is smart enough to memorize her lines and do as she's told. It's just so obvious and I don't see why others don't see it, too. I mean, think about how she describes her family on every tv show (my four beautiful daughters and my amazing husband), how she describes her cookbook (30 minutes from start to stove, 10 ingredients or less, nutrition information in the back of the book) and even what she cooks on every tv show she's on (chicken bruschetta and the green bean dish). Toss her out on her own without a script or handlers and we see the true Teresa.

Honestly, I think that's what drives the other women bonkers and why they just can't stand her anymore. When they brought up how Teresa would say Kathy lived in a tiny house and Melissa can't sing, etc. and Melissa said "Why do you always do that?" I think that was it, right there. Teresa won't shut up long enough to let anyone else talk and she probably never told anyone's secrets because she never paid attention to them when they told her the secrets. If it wasn't about her she didn't listen. I'd get sick of that, too.
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If Teresa's using a ghost-writer for her blog, I say good for her. Cow should try it. I can't imagine the mess that Tre's blog would be without help. I think the rest of Howives are just mad they didn't think of it first.

I think this is awesome, Mariah:

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One of my favorite messages from To Kill A Mockingbird, which also has come in handy in my own life at times, was when Atticus explains to Scout that you can't reason with a mob, you have to individualize them, address single people by name, don't engage with the mob as entity.

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Oh, Willy. I'm just lovin' you today. First, for finding the reunion clip, thank you (I think. My hair stood up on the back of my neck when Teresa jumped up and started spitting in Danielle's face, "Don't break up my fambly!) and then for this:

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I think I said it here before, I picture Teresa watching the episode and then calling the ghostwriter and ranting and raving into the phone for an hour. Somehow the ghostwriter has to 1) decipher all of the Teresa-isms (I can just picture it, the ghostwriter muttering to herself "WTF are ingredientses???") 2) remove all of the "hello's!" 3) try to reword all of the references to Caroline's blubber and 4) somehow try to spin everything so that Teresa comes off looking like a saint. In "her" blogs, Teresa owns up to her bad behavior sometimes but when she's interviewed on TV about it, she insists she's done nothing wrong. Total BS.


LOL. Excellent. Don't forget having the ghostwriter include a reference to her "Faw beee-yooo-tiful dawwdahs".
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Was that douchey of me, cc? I didn't mean it to be. :)
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Shoppergal
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Ugh, I hate the Clown, but I could see that she was actually trying to reason with Tre during that one moment when she put her hand on Tre's knee, and more importantly Tre's response was just maddening. She lacks any sort of reasoning or ability to project. Like hey, if that comment hurt you, then maybe your similar comment hurt her. Must be exhausting and the icing on the cake is she's the most successful.


In the clip Willie posted above from the Season 2 reunion, you can see Caroline try to talk some sense into Teresa, too. To no avail. That's when Teresa starts grunting and pawing the ground like a frustrated, angry rhinoceros. But what was also interesting is how Caroline keeps grabbing Teresa's face - to get her to look at her. To pay attention. Sort of like what Teresa did to Katfish in Napa.

I think all those women have been privy to Teresa's deepest, darkest, vindictive kind of crazy for a lot of years and decided it'd be smarter to collectively go after her, guns ablazing, and try to prove she's a violent, pathological liar. Before she just loses her shit, once and for all, on all of them. Because they know she'll do it. They've seen it happen many, many times.
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If the blogs are all her- and I guess it's possible- then I think she's a very good writer- so....I'm just not sure. Those blogs hit EVERY single point and pander to her fan base without being obnoxious.

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If Teresa's using a ghost-writer for her blog, I say good for her. Cow should try it. I can't imagine the mess that Tre's blog would be without help. I think the rest of Howives are just mad they didn't think of it first.

ranjake, you are far more generous than I am; I would bet a paycheck Teresa doesn't write those blogs. She can barely speak English most days. But I agree with andme, Willy, etc. that she is working with a someone that can in fact string coherent thoughts together on paper and there isn't anything wrong with that.

All these talentless famewhores have received all kinds of "help" since the first [and in my opinion only] authentic season. Haircolor, lapbands, stylists, marketing people, agents, record producers *cough* choreographers, etc. I would put this in that category. Maybe they should have spent less on the cosmetic surgery and a more on a writer - like Tre.

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Teresa doesn't write the blogs. As a sort-of writer I can say that all writing has a "voice." And those blogs, are not in Teresa's voice. They're not even really close. You have to think of Teresa in her most spontaneous moments to get her voice - not when she sits there and contrives her response to something, but think of her really in her most spontaneous moments: table flipping, attacking Danielle, jumping up in Napa when Joe said they are leaving and she screamed 'thank god! I'm going home to my daughters..." She has a definite voice, and those blogs? That ain't it.

There are times where people can be challenged verbally but be good writers, or the opposite, but the spectrum isn't this far apart. You don't typically see people who are fantastic writers not be able to string together a coherent sentence in normal conversation. Not saying it doesn't happen, just that the two communication methods aren't so far apart.
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See, that whole act Clownie put on of being "reasonable" makes my blood boil. I might be the only one, but I am happy that Tree was still involved in her dispute with Kathy and Melissa and couldn't pay attention as Clownie made her "point" -- because it's a fucking lie. Clownie was never hurt by one single solitary thing Tree did - she was jealous and a bitch and she couldn't control Tree or Tree's fame. I'm not saying Tree's fame was justified. Ironically, I think it was a reaction by fans when the other woman (TM Dinyell) started constantly putting her down (for KatFish and Missy that was from the 1st moment on the show) for seemingly no reason or for stuff they'd laughed at before. The sly winks, the "stuff happened that we can't discuss", the "you know what you did", the "I can't, I just can't" from Clownie and the crazy upsets that Cow tried to pull off -- it all just made their object slip faster and faster from their fingers. If they'd supported her like mad, shrugged off her behavior ...

But the thing is: what behavior? What did she ever do? I'm completely puzzled. The only explanation that makes any sense to me is sheer jealousy and anger over some of the things that producer revealed.
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Willy that video of the Tre was hilarious. I love at the end when Andy is telling her that she can't get off the couch and that he is not joking, she just shrugs and says "yeah" with a look at him like, "what are you talking about?"

Also, Cow was up to her shit stirring in that reunion too telling Danielle that she has more proof that she is not allowed to show that will all come out in the end and prove Danielle is a liar. Same old, same old with Danielle.

Funny, Caroline says that she has never seen Teresa act that way except when Danielle is around and that is why she is friends with her. Ha!
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Here is a sample of Tre's blog from Season 1.
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Thank you all for visiting www.teresagiudice.com! I am so excited to share my fun and fabulous accessories with each of you!

I'll start with the trip to Atlantic City. It was very hard for me to leave my daughters, but I'm glad I went. It was a great getaway with the girls to The Water Club at the Borgata. If anyone hasn't been there, they should definitely check it out. The staff treated us like queens - they were amazing! We spent the weekend shopping, laying out by the pool, gambling, going out to eat...it was a much-needed vacation, and the best part was that there was NO DRAMA! I brought back great gifts for my girls and they we're thrilled. They were in good hands with their Daddy while I was away. I'm glad they get to spend time with their father; I think it's important for them to have some quality daddy-daughter time together.

Now after seeing me my in the leopard bathing suit, you can tell why I got bubbies!

Caroline's workout with her kids was great - Caroline looks amazing. I loved Albie's kick, and my husband loved it too (especially because he's a black belt!) It was so cute to see Caroline working out with her family.

Hooray for Ashley, she finally got good grades! I'm sure Jacqueline and Chris are very proud of her. I'm also happy for Dina - Lexi's finally home, safe and sound!

Danielle, according to your daughters, Steve wasn't the only guy in the picture. They listed a few names... it seems like your goodies are handed out everywhere.

As always thanks so much for watching! Love, love, love you guys!
Teresa


Now the blog is much lighter because Teresa was not a major player in any conflict, but the tone seems the same and the writing is much better than you would expect.
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Bravo posted a clip of the reunion on FB, featuring the moment when Tree was next to Clownie and Andy was saying "let Caroline make her point" but Tree was still in it with KatFish ... and as Tree said "my father was there for those girls more than their own father" Kathy had a moment where she seemed to accept that, almost shrug it off ... the barest moment -- then she realized "gold mine!" and lit up like the Fourth with "don't you talk about my father!" ... and Melissa says "Rosie's gonna kill her" BEFORE Rosie starts making noises off stage ... a set-up? I'll bet it's possible. Not that Rosie strikes me as a playah, but to support her new BFF sister, maybe.


ETA: Finestra, posting at the same time! GOOD CATCH. I never thought to look back at her old blogs. Shorter, less to say, but good grammar. Maybe she always used spell check, too?
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I still believe she uses a ghost writer, and I think Mariah might be right that she talks on the phone to the writer and gives her general thoughts and the writer goes with it just because I think Tre is too busy right now to sit down and write a well thought out and organized blog. Her blogs from season 1 basically just commented on each scene chronologically. Now that she is a major player, her blogs tend to have broader themes.

I would love to get a hold of all of the secret files of illegal evidence that cannot be shown that Jax has in her possession.

ETA Tre even uses a semi-colon in the season 1 blog. ;)
Edited by Finestra, Oct 1 2012, 10:48 PM.
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I still believe she uses a ghost writer, and I think Mariah might be right that she talks on the phone to the writer and gives her general thoughts and the writer goes with it just because I think Tre is too busy right now to sit down and write a well thought out and organized blog.

My theory is that she has always used a ghostwriter because when she submitted her first blog post it was probably such a mess no one could read it - so someone suggested she get some help or maybe even provided the help. I base this on what Velvet said - as a writer, she said what I could not but wished I could, lol.

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I would love to get a hold of all of the secret files of illegal evidence that cannot be shown that Jax has in her possession.

Finestra, these top secret files are probably kept with the multi-million dollar contract she has for not promoting some super secret product. I believe all her "research" on Beauty and Autism is in the same place.

Hey, supposedly the charges against Laurita include using company funds for private use even though she denied it last night. I wonder if Jax million dollar contract came from Chris' company? It would explain alot.

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