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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:29 PM (63,007 Views)
cccharley
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Why doe Tre stay friends with Kim D? Is it in her contract? If she weren't then she would not have been at that lunch. Something is fishy with that whole thing. I never could stand Melissa either. We all know that though. I root for nobody in this one.
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Jul 22 2013, 03:19 AM
Oh, but Dr. V is obviously on Andy's side/Bravo's paycheck, too -- otherwise why would she suggest Tree take some of the blame. Bitch, do you watch this show?
Sigh. I'm not on Bravo's payroll but I watch the show and this bitch thinks Teresa should take some of the blame.

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A lively discussion ensued (we probably could have used Dr. V) and he began to see the light, (trying to avoid a fight in the B&N Cafe).


I wish my brother and I had a Dr. V. So far, I freaking love her. She made Teresa and Joe crumble like Christmas cookies in a garbage can. That was real. Got a little teary there, myself.

JoeGo copping to the can o' hair. Can somebody tell me where in the epi it is? I missed it. Melissa is a POS. She probably thinks that if the elder Gorgas and Teresa really wanted it to happen, they could convince the fidget to leave her. Whether that would ever happen or not is anyone's guess but I think that's part of the reason she's so afraid to leave Joe alone with Teresa or spend time with his parents.
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Jul 22 2013, 11:01 AM
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Jul 22 2013, 03:19 AM
Oh, but Dr. V is obviously on Andy's side/Bravo's paycheck, too -- otherwise why would she suggest Tree take some of the blame. Bitch, do you watch this show?
Sigh. I'm not on Bravo's payroll but I watch the show and this bitch thinks Teresa should take some of the blame.
Same here.

It's pretty rare that there is ever only one person who is 100% in the wrong during a fight. Now it could be a 99/1 split but we all have to take some of the blame anytime we are fighting with someone else. Teresa seems to keep throwing the blame on various people and it's like she's just going to toss every name out there until one sticks. One thing I will say about JoeGo is that he does seem to have the ability to admit it when he's done something wrong. Meaning he'll say "I did call her scum and that was wrong." I don't think I've ever heard Tre do that. I do know they will never make up if she can't acknowledge her part in this mess.

JoeGo said he used "black hairspray" during one of his TH's. At least he copped to that, too.

I don't know what to think about Melissa. Part of me thinks she's just gotten to the point of being so done with all of the crap that she doesn't think it's worth the effort to try again. Part of me thinks she doesn't want them all to make up, although I don't know if it's because she's worried about losing her storyline on the show or if there is more RL stuff to it.

Cracked me up how they all seem to sleep in full makeup and their bathrobes?

Tre was doing her paid Bravo duty calling Caroline. Same goes for that horrible bathtub scene. She must have been topless for real because they blurred out her nips. So for all of her crying over this fight she seemed to get over it pretty quickly in order to hop into the tub for her brown chicken bow chow scene. I wonder how long before Caroline "suggests" they get Jax out there too?

I personally think this fight must be real because who would agree to fake fight like this? Why? To stay on TV? For the paycheck? WTF is wrong with people who would let their family fall apart for the world to see and be faking it all?
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Does anyone else think that BRavo fucks around with the edits in this show depending on when the episode is being played? Sometimes it seems that minute edits are made to omit a remark by someone or change a scene slightly. I should DVR and them rewatch it live on a rerun to compare. But it just seems that stuff I could have sworn I saw or heard disappear and then may reappear in another even later rerun.

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Well, I don't think Tree did anything that any of them are accusing her of -- has she ever been awful about Melissa? Of course! But all this ranting and raving about how evil Tree is, how mean she is, how conniving she is, is simply undocumented by the show. I hate it when they say (as Cow did last night on WWHL) "I know things that they didn't show" -- well? What does Bravo, Andy, or any of the cast expect? If we didn't see it, we cannot have any sympathy for how they feel.

What I have seen? Manipulation of being related to someone to get on a national reality program and then treating that person horribly, even while they made overtures of "reality normalcy" -- Tree went over to say hello and congrats at the christening and JoeGo and Missy and even Kathy ganged up on her and started huge fights. Even last night I sort of laughed when Dr. V asked "What did she do?" and all JoeGo could say was "She started a rumor that my wife is cheating on me" ... what? You couldn't go back further than that? Missy, at least, went back to the stripper nonsense -- but excuse this viewer -- you were all piling on Tree before that ... so what was it? YOU can't even keep it straight!*

I'm all for someone making nice to keep the peace -- Tree has reached out, has been willing, but would not say "I'm sorry I did X" when X was defined by them because it wasn't true -- being a liar really doesn't help because then (esp. these types) they will hold that over your head forever. It's the wrong way to go. JUST ONCE I'd like them to say what she did WAY BACK. What did she do that started that huge brawl at the christening. Not welcome them to the show? Please. Say that's not what it was.

(Forgive my capitalization, I'm not screaming, just emphasizing in any easier manner than with bolding and italicizing. I'm lazy.)


* And neither of those things are true based on what Bravo has shown us. I believe Tree when she says she's not trying to break up Missy and JoeGo -- maybe she wished it would happen at one time, but that train left the station and I've seen nothing in her actions that are trying to break up their marriage. I do see that she's trying to make people see "the real Melissa" ... when frankly, she should see the real JoeGo ... he's not the brother she thinks he is.
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Jul 22 2013, 02:54 PM
Well, I don't think Tree did anything that any of them are accusing her of -- has she ever been awful about Melissa? Of course! But all this ranting and raving about how evil Tree is, how mean she is, how conniving she is, is simply undocumented by the show. I hate it when they say (as Cow did last night on WWHL) "I know things that they didn't show" -- well? What does Bravo, Andy, or any of the cast expect? If we didn't see it, we cannot have any sympathy for how they feel.

What I have seen? Manipulation of being related to someone to get on a national reality program and then treating that person horribly, even while they made overtures of "reality normalcy" -- Tree went over to say hello and congrats at the christening and JoeGo and Missy and even Kathy ganged up on her and started huge fights. Even last night I sort of laughed when Dr. V asked "What did she do?" and all JoeGo could say was "She started a rumor that my wife is cheating on me" ... what? You couldn't go back further than that? Missy, at least, went back to the stripper nonsense -- but excuse this viewer -- you were all piling on Tree before that ... so what was it? YOU can't even keep it straight!*

I'm all for someone making nice to keep the peace -- Tree has reached out, has been willing, but would not say "I'm sorry I did X" when X was defined by them because it wasn't true -- being a liar really doesn't help because then (esp. these types) they will hold that over your head forever. It's the wrong way to go. JUST ONCE I'd like them to say what she did WAY BACK. What did she do that started that huge brawl at the christening. Not welcome them to the show? Please. Say that's not what it was.

(Forgive my capitalization, I'm not screaming, just emphasizing in any easier manner than with bolding and italicizing. I'm lazy.)


* And neither of those things are true based on what Bravo has shown us. I believe Tree when she says she's not trying to break up Missy and JoeGo -- maybe she wished it would happen at one time, but that train left the station and I've seen nothing in her actions that are trying to break up their marriage. I do see that she's trying to make people see "the real Melissa" ... when frankly, she should see the real JoeGo ... he's not the brother she thinks he is.
Me too.

Agree with everything you say.

And ish - YES! I've often felt like I heard something on one showing that never makes it to the next ones. Like they're sitting there in the airing room and go "oops, that was supposed to be cut" and they get to it on the repeat.
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Does it make me a bad person that I'm still laughing about the Gorgas hair in a can and her sprinting with his hat like it was his last oxygen? Why didn't she yell THERESAHELPYOURBROTHER then? Does this make me bad!? Can I get a ruling on this.

Melissa is a witch. Theresa however should reflect on how she contributes to the strife, we all are responsible for contributing to every interaction we have with Anyone. I think that's where Dr V is going.
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Does it make me a bad person that I'm still laughing about the Gorgas hair in a can and her sprinting with his hat like it was his last oxygen? Why didn't she yell THERESAHELPYOURBROTHER then? Does this make me bad!? Can I get a ruling on this.

I'm right there with you Vicky is Icky! We wound and rewound that part including the aftermath when Melissa is clearly trying to get JoGo to remove his shirt stained with eh can o' hair. Or when he is shirtless in his room but wearing a knit cap, lol.

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Jul 22 2013, 11:01 AM
I wish my brother and I had a Dr. V. So far, I freaking love her. She made Teresa and Joe crumble like Christmas cookies in a garbage can. That was real. Got a little teary there, myself.

JoeGo copping to the can o' hair. Can somebody tell me where in the epi it is? I missed it. Melissa is a POS. She probably thinks that if the elder Gorgas and Teresa really wanted it to happen, they could convince the fidget to leave her. Whether that would ever happen or not is anyone's guess but I think that's part of the reason she's so afraid to leave Joe alone with Teresa or spend time with his parents.
disco, I admit to getting a little teary myself - maybe because I have my own horrible sibling issues and would love to have a Dr. V and a similar resolution.

And I agree that scene was real. Most of these episodes are so fake that it stands out when they are real. I also think Juicy is basically 100% real on camera too. I liked how he comforted Tre after the fight with a hug and a "Whatta ya gonna do? Youse got a dum dum for a brother." I think Juicy is a dirtbag in general but he does love his family (everyone else like business partners, customers, creditors, etc. can go to hell apparently) and I thought that was a real moment of a real marriage.

The part where JoGo cops to the can o' hair is after the fight when Richie, Kathy, Rosie are in in the dining room with JoGo and Melissa. If you FF you might miss it - I did on my first viewing. Richie is bitching about the black stuff all over his white sweater, shows everyone and asks, "What is that shit?" to which JoGo says he has no idea while exchanging a look with Melissa. Then he has a TH where he is cracking up saying he sprays "black hairspray" on his hair to make it look thicker.
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I can't stand Melissa. Love the edit she's getting. I also think they had Tre call Caroline. It's all very programmed but the fight. I think Tre was very upset when they got on the show. She does have a huge ego and wanted nobody to steal any of her thunder.

I think most of the other stuff is editing on Bravo's part. I think there are many things we never saw that many of them said and did in order for it to fit the story.

Still want to know who the mystery texter was that that night with Cow whom she wouldn't disclose. Did we ever find out?

Yes I agree with Dr. V that everyone is culpable in one way or another -there are no innocents in this feud. Everyone did something whether it's 25/75 or 90/10 I don't care but nobody did NOTHING. Kim D needs to be banished to Alaska or the North Pole. She is truly ugly on the inside and out. She's probably worse than Melissa. Did she ever marry or have kids? I wouldn't be surprised if she never did. She's evil.
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OH was Dr. V a dominatrix at one point? Is that one of her therapies still? She looks very pretty but looks incredibly plastic to me.
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Kim D needs to be banished to Alaska or the North Pole.

Hey!! On behalf of current Alaskans like dilbert and former Alaskans like myself - New Jersey can keep Kim D. I would be happy if she was never on my TV screen again though.

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Icy, I know that you're firmly in Teresa's camp and why. I only commented because it sounded like you were saying that if you don't see Teresa as 100% blameless, you have to either be on Bravo's payroll, don't watch the show, or were simply a (dumb) bitch. Anyhooters...

The christening. I saw someone talking about this on TWOP today, too. They believed that that was where everything started and it was Joe Gorga's fault because he was mean to Teresa when she came over to say hello. Joe reacted badly but if you watch the clip, it's appears that something had transpired prior to that hello and Teresa's kiss at the christening.

See how Melissa and Joe look gobsmacked and ask, at the exact same time, why she's being all nice "now"? Look at Melissa's face when Teresa kisses her and Joe's face when she is saying "I just want to say congratulations again..."

Is it only me that suspects that something happened prior to Teresa coming over to congratulate them? Did JoeGo and Melissa's evil sisters overreact? Absolutely. I'd not expect any less. Do I think Teresa was blameless in stirring up the shit that day? LOLOL Nope. Anybody care to throw out a scenario of what might have made Fidget and Melissa look so surprised at her greeting? Was it because Teresa had not acknowledged the baby before then??

Christening

Incidentally, at the :30 mark, watch JoeGo push Melissa, again, during the heat of battle to get to his target. She just needs to sit down when Joe starts charging. Or else he's just going to push her down.
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Is it only me that suspects that something happened prior to Teresa coming over to congratulate them?

Oh it probably did. Maybe it had something to do with her being blindsided by Bravo hiring those two green with envy people?

Another 'real' part that cracked me up was in the hotel room after the fight and Melissa asked Rosie, "Did you just see what happened?" and Rosie said, "Those things happen sometimes!" referring to the knock down drag out family fight. Lol. Sorry Rosie, some effed up families (like mine) just go all passive aggressive and smile - preferring to avoid each other whenever possible.
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Jul 22 2013, 04:58 PM
disco, I admit to getting a little teary myself - maybe because I have my own horrible sibling issues and would love to have a Dr. V and a similar resolution.

That was me that wrote that, Cosmo, and I got teary for the same reason - my own drama with my brother. We made some real strides this spring. Had a little hug and cry it out session. It was such a relief. I can't underline, bold or italicize that enough. It was so good to vent, him acknowledge and vice versa. It's been an amazing summer so far - the kids hanging out, his wife and I got semi-hammered together 2 Sundays ago, snuck behind the garage and shared a smoke and have had loads of laughs. That said, good thing I got pictures, because it doesn't feel like it's going to last. LOL.

We had a little skirmish online this past weekend and it brought up some old stuff. I want me some Dr. V.

I want to remind my brother how good it's been and to stop being a dum dum. But the stubborn dysfunctional me, says, "Why do *I* always have to be the one to fix it when *he* started it." My name is Gorga. GOR-GA.
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