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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:29 PM (63,204 Views)
WillyWonka
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I don't see why Tree is suddenly losing her shit over Melissa referencing Juicy possibly going to jail on camera (versus saying "going away" I guess...I can't actually tell if Tree is flipping out over the phrase used or it being discussed at all).

Let's think about this. The DUI was in Jan. 2010. He'd been driving on a suspended license at the time, which landed him in jail (oops, he "went away") for 10 days in Sept. 2010. Well, between those two events, in June 2010, Juicy used his brother's ID to obtain a fake drivers license. He was arrested for that, AT HIS HOME, in March 2011. Teresa sold her "Anxiety about Joe going to prison" story, along with posing for photos with all of her kids and Juicy, to In Touch in June 2011.

When the DUI happened, I distinctly recall it being discussed on RHONJ. I remember Jac telling someone (Caroline?? I can't remember now) that Teresa claimed that Joe happened to crash in front of a friends house and he went in there and had a drink AFTER the accident, so the DUI charge was wrong. I'm pretty sure Teresa even told that story in a TH.

When the DUI happened, the arrest, everything, it was all over TMZ and everywhere else pretty much immediately. Joe was arrested at his own house FCOL. Teresa lets her kids get photographed for stories she SELLS to tabloids where she does nothing but talk about the possibility of Juicy going to prison.

I'm pretty sure those kids of hers know all about their wonderful Daddy but I think it's ridiculous to dump all of that on Melissa. It was all out there way before they had all of this out on camera (at an event that none of their children were at BTW). What the press didn't find out about all on their own Teresa made sure to put out there herself.

I'm sure those kids have heard plenty on TV, at school, etc. and they have their mother and father to blame.
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May 7 2012, 08:49 PM
Seriously, I'm big boned-ed. But when you are tall it takes a lot more lbs to register dress sizes....think about it..I've got an extra 6 inches for that fat to be spread around too. LOL. When I flirted with regular sizes I lost 70 lbs and went from a size 22 to a 14/16...so that's what...3 dress sizes?
Okay, that makes sense. So if we use that scale, then Lauren could lose 5 lbs and drop a size. meaning, she's a size 8 and if she lost 40 lbs, that would be 8 sizes. How is that possible?

All in all, she's lying. I think we all know! :)
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IckiVicki
May 7 2012, 05:06 PM
I freakin love Teresa's blog. Whatever she's paying her ghost writer isn't enough! She puts those other bitches to shame.
It's great. Love her letting the cat out of the bag about all of the others' legal troubles without going into specifics. Now that is klassay and stealth at the same time!

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Teresa's blog made a lot of sense. I was especially surprised to read that the conversation with her brother happened MONTHS before. So they really had to search through their memory banks to pull that one out.

Melissa keeps a list of things like that on her Iphone, so she can pull up a grievance, no matter how remote, whenever the Teresa hate begins to die down.
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Willy, in Teresa's blog she talked about that -- it's not about the kids hearing it, it's about Teresa discussing it at all -- because it hasn't come to court yet, so her lawyers advised her (smartly) to not talk about it, because whatever she says can be used against Joe. Better to not say anything. I think the whole "going away" vs. "going to jail" was a pretend problem standing in for "no discussion at all, because Teresa can't talk about it" ... Melissa certainly knew that ...

Oh, and I have it on in the background right now, Melissa just said "what she RECENTLY said to Joe" ... so Melissa just lied, or Teresa lied, but at this point, I'm doubting Mel.
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The one thing I can't always be open about though is open legal cases. Not because I'm trying to hide anything, but because that's what your lawyers tell you -- don't talk about open legal cases, because it could be twisted against you. It's common sense. What's crazy to me though, is that my family and friends know this because of their own legal issues, yet keep bringing up mine anyway, even though I ask them not to privately and on camera. Every single person on the cast has had ugly legal issues and accusations against them. But even if they are completely untrue, you have to spend tons of money on lawyers to defend yourself. To have your friends and family talk about them on national TV can hurt your case, especially since they don't know the details. I would never sit around on camera and make casual guesses as to whose husband really did what to "allegedly" break the law or "supposedly" steal money from someone or "maybe" have defrauded this or that... It's not just morally wrong, it could hurt their case. Why would you do that to someone you care about? Especially when you're in the same boat yourself? It makes no sense to me. And yes, that's why I walk away when people keep bringing it up over and over to me.
http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-4/blogs/teresa-giudice/an-open-book?page=0,2
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Just started watching...and I haven't made it past the opening credits and Clownie is pissing me off. I can't decide if she moves like a robot or a sumo wrestler.

2 size 8's? One leg in each?

Bwah...the boys are gonna be rich? Maybe there will be a fulvic acid shortage.

Here's a hint, Lauren. Don't quit your job the first day if you want to be "very rich".

Wait...Assley was "learning how to use a computer" in Texas?

You can plaster a giant bow on her head, but that poor Guidice baby is still the missing link.

Vito's gross. He kept rubbing the boob of the girl in the picture.
Edited by andme, May 8 2012, 01:08 AM.
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May 7 2012, 11:25 PM
Willy, in Teresa's blog she talked about that -- it's not about the kids hearing it, it's about Teresa discussing it at all -- because it hasn't come to court yet, so her lawyers advised her (smartly) to not talk about it, because whatever she says can be used against Joe. Better to not say anything. I think the whole "going away" vs. "going to jail" was a pretend problem standing in for "no discussion at all, because Teresa can't talk about it" ... Melissa certainly knew that ...

Oh, and I have it on in the background right now, Melissa just said "what she RECENTLY said to Joe" ... so Melissa just lied, or Teresa lied, but at this point, I'm doubting Mel.
She doesn't seem to have a problem selling stories about it to In Touch though.

I can understand not getting into details or what Joe's lie defense will be, but it was common knowledge that he'd already been to jail once and that there was a possibility that he'd get sent to jail for 10 years. That was all already out there in the press and Teresa herself talked about it in In Touch. So I'm still not understanding why she was having such a hissy fit that it was brought up on camera, other than Teresa can't make money off of it if she discusses it on RHONJ.
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Watching the repeat and I found the solstice events interesting. After a second look, it appears that this is yet another Bravo set-up, again aimed at trying to get a reaction (preferrably a violent one) out of Teresa. Caroline gives her the cold shoulder, can't even bring herself to say hello. They all abandon her at the table, everyone is giving her shit about a stupid comment she made in PRIVATE months ago. So, ok, she finally has enough of the BS and walks out and that's when you can tell that the shit hits the fan. Missy is playing innocent and looking in the direction OPPOSITE of where the other women are sitting and saying "I just answered a question" as if explaining it to the producers. It's clear that with Teresa gone nothing interesting will happen (other than the usual bashing of her) so they send Jaq out to get her.

I feel like we're in for a whole season of this -- let's see if we can set-off Teresa.

Btw, Vito is the perfect mate for Lauren. Someone who will keep his mouth shut when his in-laws mock him (because they're just "keeping it real," and besides, their "jokes" are only made out of "love.")
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WillyWonka
May 8 2012, 08:55 AM
IcyAll
May 7 2012, 11:25 PM
Willy, in Teresa's blog she talked about that -- it's not about the kids hearing it, it's about Teresa discussing it at all -- because it hasn't come to court yet, so her lawyers advised her (smartly) to not talk about it, because whatever she says can be used against Joe. Better to not say anything. I think the whole "going away" vs. "going to jail" was a pretend problem standing in for "no discussion at all, because Teresa can't talk about it" ... Melissa certainly knew that ...

Oh, and I have it on in the background right now, Melissa just said "what she RECENTLY said to Joe" ... so Melissa just lied, or Teresa lied, but at this point, I'm doubting Mel.
She doesn't seem to have a problem selling stories about it to In Touch though.

I can understand not getting into details or what Joe's lie defense will be, but it was common knowledge that he'd already been to jail once and that there was a possibility that he'd get sent to jail for 10 years. That was all already out there in the press and Teresa herself talked about it in In Touch. So I'm still not understanding why she was having such a hissy fit that it was brought up on camera, other than Teresa can't make money off of it if she discusses it on RHONJ.
I think the hissy fit is because she had asked them not to talk about it on camera. Melissa knew Teresa was being vague with the "going away" stuff. Melissa isn't good enough an actress to pull off the innocent, "what? what did I say? I only said that he went to JAIL? I guess there is a difference..."

I saw Kelly Ripa on WWHL and she called out Caroline for fanning the flames re the Gorga/Guidice fight.
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Since the talking heads are filmed periodically after filming, I wonder if the THs by Kathy, Caroline and Melissa talking about how "Melissa is at the boiling point for all of the horrible things that Tre has done to her," means that those three didn't know how the season would be edited and needed to justify in their talking heads why Melissa was right for going after Teresa.

Does Teresa tell JoeGo that they need to go to therapy or that he needs to go?
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I'm really surprised at the venemous turn Caroline has taken against Teresa. Saying that JoeGo needs to cut Tre out of his life, calling her a "bully" (pot, kettle), not even saying hello when she sees her -- geez, it just seems so out of proportion to whatever sin Teresa committed.

At first I thought Kathy's anti-bullying campaign that she blogs/tweets about was started to counter any backlash from this season with the Teresa pile-up. Now I see she's just jumping on the Caroline bandwagon. What a weak little bitch.
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I can understand not getting into details or what Joe's lie defense will be, but it was common knowledge that he'd already been to jail once and that there was a possibility that he'd get sent to jail for 10 years. That was all already out there in the press and Teresa herself talked about it in In Touch. So I'm still not understanding why she was having such a hissy fit that it was brought up on camera, other than Teresa can't make money off of it if she discusses it on RHONJ.

In print Teresa can control exactly what is said. As Finestra points out, she can't control Melissa saying "You told me you knew Joe was guilty, so why are you surprised now?" or something like that, anything that even vaguely becomes usable as testimony or evidence against Joe (because Teresa has to respond or walk away and any response is potentially bad; so she walked away) -- Melissa has proven she's not on T&J's side, so why chance it? Teresa told them "don't discuss it on camera" as protection, advised by her lawyers as uncontrollable and possibly dangerous, but Melissa wanted to pretend she didn't know why not. She knew why not. Teresa selling a story? She hands over a piece of paper and can show that to the court if the magazine alters any of it. I'll bet all her submissions are checked over by a paralegal at least before she puts any stories out. They want sympathy, not potential ammunition against Joe.
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May 8 2012, 12:21 PM
After a second look, it appears that this is yet another Bravo set-up, again aimed at trying to get a reaction (preferrably a violent one) out of Teresa.
This, my friend, is an EXCELLENT point. They're all chasing the table-flip of Season 1, hoping for a re-enactment. They would even talk about this on Celeb apprentice, "teresa's gonna flip a table."

Hey, Bravo knows what gets the ratings.
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May 8 2012, 03:28 PM
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May 8 2012, 12:21 PM
After a second look, it appears that this is yet another Bravo set-up, again aimed at trying to get a reaction (preferrably a violent one) out of Teresa.
This, my friend, is an EXCELLENT point. They're all chasing the table-flip of Season 1, hoping for a re-enactment. They would even talk about this on Celeb apprentice, "teresa's gonna flip a table."

Hey, Bravo knows what gets the ratings.
I seem to recall Teresa sitting there waiting outside a bathroom for Danielle, just so she could "say hello." I'm pretty certain she didn't actually care to say hello but was told to do it by the producers to start shit. So I'm not sure why Tree is suddenly indignant when the tables are flipped (pardon the pun) and she's on the receiving end.
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Because it's her own family that are the willing participants. I always believed the "hello" event was producer-driven, and Tre was stupid to follow through with it (not sure how much say they have in those situations.) But let's be clear; no matter how anyone felt about Danielle (I personally hated her) the other women owed her nothing. She was not a relative or friend. She was a mere co-worker, and a batshit crazy one at that. It's one thing if another group of women were targeting Tre this season other than her own family members. That's what irks me.
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