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Show Snark; Episode to Episode Snark
Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:29 PM (63,006 Views)
Cosmocrush
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Oh rye, sorry I didn't pay attention to the poster name. I should have known - because I remember that was something we shared.

I'm SO glad you have made strides with your relationship with your brother! That's wonderful! Whether it lasts or not, it's good to know you were able to come to some sort of truce - so you know you could do it again if you needed/wanted to.
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Jul 22 2013, 03:58 PM
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Jul 22 2013, 02:54 PM
Well, I don't think Tree did anything that any of them are accusing her of -- has she ever been awful about Melissa? Of course! But all this ranting and raving about how evil Tree is, how mean she is, how conniving she is, is simply undocumented by the show. I hate it when they say (as Cow did last night on WWHL) "I know things that they didn't show" -- well? What does Bravo, Andy, or any of the cast expect? If we didn't see it, we cannot have any sympathy for how they feel.

What I have seen? Manipulation of being related to someone to get on a national reality program and then treating that person horribly, even while they made overtures of "reality normalcy" -- Tree went over to say hello and congrats at the christening and JoeGo and Missy and even Kathy ganged up on her and started huge fights. Even last night I sort of laughed when Dr. V asked "What did she do?" and all JoeGo could say was "She started a rumor that my wife is cheating on me" ... what? You couldn't go back further than that? Missy, at least, went back to the stripper nonsense -- but excuse this viewer -- you were all piling on Tree before that ... so what was it? YOU can't even keep it straight!*

I'm all for someone making nice to keep the peace -- Tree has reached out, has been willing, but would not say "I'm sorry I did X" when X was defined by them because it wasn't true -- being a liar really doesn't help because then (esp. these types) they will hold that over your head forever. It's the wrong way to go. JUST ONCE I'd like them to say what she did WAY BACK. What did she do that started that huge brawl at the christening. Not welcome them to the show? Please. Say that's not what it was.

(Forgive my capitalization, I'm not screaming, just emphasizing in any easier manner than with bolding and italicizing. I'm lazy.)


* And neither of those things are true based on what Bravo has shown us. I believe Tree when she says she's not trying to break up Missy and JoeGo -- maybe she wished it would happen at one time, but that train left the station and I've seen nothing in her actions that are trying to break up their marriage. I do see that she's trying to make people see "the real Melissa" ... when frankly, she should see the real JoeGo ... he's not the brother she thinks he is.
Me too.

Agree with everything you say.

And ish - YES! I've often felt like I heard something on one showing that never makes it to the next ones. Like they're sitting there in the airing room and go "oops, that was supposed to be cut" and they get to it on the repeat.
I think if stuff is cut between airings its deliberate. To fuck with the viewers. To stir the pot. I see something, someone else views it and doesnt see it, their take on things is skewed from mine yet we saw the "the same show". it's not minutes missing, it's a mere second or two shot of a look or a face or gesture. sometimes I think they remove a sentence or words out of a conversation. Strange how almost subliminally they manipulate us.
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My take on the christening...there was a blow out with Tre and family. But they got on the show and Tre was determined NOT to have their feud played out in public. Thats why Joe and Mel had the WTF looks on their faces, they were ready to take it on camera. Tre was hoping they'd make nice just for appearance sake. Tre was unprepared for the vitriol and from then things escalated.
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Strange how almost subliminally they manipulate us.


Yet knowing that, I still come back like an addict for any little drop I can drink. sigh, so ashamed of myself.

So happy for all the Dr. V love. I do adore her, she's the only thing of value outta that stupid LA Shrinks show. We need a petition for her to start hosting the reunions please. Make her Bravo's staff therapist.

Not only does Kathy wake up with a full face of makeup, but she also evidently makes the bed at a hotel.
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oh and the Clown reminded me of Velma from Scooby Doo in her sweater.
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I think if stuff is cut between airings its deliberate. To fuck with the viewers. To stir the pot. I see something, someone else views it and doesnt see it, their take on things is skewed from mine yet we saw the "the same show". it's not minutes missing, it's a mere second or two shot of a look or a face or gesture. sometimes I think they remove a sentence or words out of a conversation. Strange how almost subliminally they manipulate us.
Bolding mine. For me, that's exactly it. It's fascinating. Sometimes things can get heated on other boards and it's like, "No reason to get too hepped up. By this time next year, the majority will be thinking Caroline is all that and a bag of chips." Bravo is scary.

It is so brilliantly, subliminally done. That's really the only reason I still watch because, especially with NJ, I've never been closer to washing my hands of a cast. But I'm curious to see if Caroline is going to become a sympathetic character or if Joe Gorga becomes everyone's hairy little favorite.

If Joe Guidice can do, it so can the Fidget. Maybe even Richie. Never say never.
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I still watch because I'm nosy and I want to see how it all plays out. But I think that I watch now knowing so much is fake and set up and aired out of order. I notice stuff like Kathy "waking up" with full makeup on more now than I used to. I just don't give much of a crap beyond the shows now. Not that you would know it from the amount that I yack about them on here but I swear, it's true. LOL
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Jul 22 2013, 06:32 PM

Not only does Kathy wake up with a full face of makeup, but she also evidently makes the bed at a hotel.
You're making me have to stick up for Fishy.

I've shared vacation homes with other couples. If I get up earlier than everybody else, either because that's my nature, I'm menopausal, I'm not comfy in a strange bed, I got less drunk than all the others the night before - whatever - I will shower and get ready for the day before any one else is up. I might even end up laying back down. And knowing another houseguest could visit my room before the housekeeper gets there, then, yeah, I might pull up the coverlet a little.

That's one possible explanation. Or Fish really does go to bed with perfect, smudgeproof makeup.

Speaking of which, Shopper, today at Costco I see they are selling Smashbox Photofinish Primer for 20.00
Wear that and make-up doesn't budge.
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Ooh, that primer sounds good! I may have to swing by Costco.

I think Fishy wore makeup as a public service. Makeup-less Clownie frightened.

Why did Richie wear the can 'o hair stained sweater the next day? He only brought one?
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Now you are making me jealous Rye. Costco is too damn far so i joined BJ's, no fancy cosmetics there, but they take coupons and sell smaller quantities in addition to the big warehouse sizes:(

Back to fishy - if you watch she's just kinda putzing at the bed in her full face of makeup. My guess is they yelled action and she was told to try and make it look natural.
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Jul 22 2013, 05:48 PM
Oh rye, sorry I didn't pay attention to the poster name. I should have known - because I remember that was something we shared.

I'm SO glad you have made strides with your relationship with your brother! That's wonderful! Whether it lasts or not, it's good to know you were able to come to some sort of truce - so you know you could do it again if you needed/wanted to.
Cosmo, I think I started it when I said Mr. Disco and I could have used Dr. V in our Tre/Melissa discussion at Barnes and Noble, then I mentioned that I had a sister-in-law like Melissa who was always bad mouthing me in my brother's ear. (Can I help it she was jealous?;) ) But said brother and I could use Dr. V as well.... he's the only brother who doesn't contact me, if I talk to him it's because I call. One time even my mom and dad told him he needed therapy because of his issues (in his head) with me. If only there had been reality tv then.....
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Oh, disco there seem to be plenty of us with problematic sibling/in-law relationships unfortunately.

On a lighter note, I just saw this at Tw 0P and wanted to share - it was posted by film noire:

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Perhaps a new business venture for JoeGo? I can see it now: "Joe's Spray-on: the tables may fly, but your hair will stay on."

Ha! He’ll need a jingle: “Don’t be a putz when biting nuts, with spray-on hair look debonair!”



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LOL...except that the can o'hair came flying out with one little family scrum.
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Oh yeah andme - he would need to reformulate that shit to stay stuck.
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Disco I have the same SIL. It's mostly amicable but I've seen her act like Melissa Gorga several times over the past decade and I won't forget that. The manipulation of my brother is exactly like what goes on with them, but on a smaller scale. I think that's why I won't ever side with Melissa, I know exactly what she's doing. It's identical for us, right down to the same family dynamic.
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