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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:29 PM (63,199 Views)
Shoppergal
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I like how the trainer doesn't let a DUI get in the way of her training...did you all notice she got out of a taxicab. This is just bananas. Juicy should take note.
Edited by Shoppergal, May 13 2012, 11:28 PM.
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Velvet
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I could not figure out why they were showing her through the window. That was a really weird scene.
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Shoppergal
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At first I thought it was Asshat coming home (saw the blonde hair and cab).

I'm starting to see what you all are saying about Richie.

ETA - Tre ain't perfect, but I hate JoGo acting like this whole falling out is her fault.
Edited by Shoppergal, May 13 2012, 11:54 PM.
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Shopper, I knew you'd see it with Richie. I smell a rat, he's got too much hatred. Have you ever hated anyone like that to the point where you slammed them every single second you had a chance? Didn't think so! Because eventually that kind of hate just morphs into apathy. Not with Richie though. He's got a screw loose.
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Okay, I know that I'm one of the only ones who get this on Eastern time, but when you watch this, DO NOT MISS the first 10 minutes with Joe Giudice working out, then him going to the bedroom to talk to Tree. He's on some contraption machine which is stretching him into a split. I'm laughing so hard over here. He is a character, I don't care that he's a criminal. He cracks me up.


Bwah, Velvet! If you hadn't pointed that out, I never would have noticed. What is with these men and their obsession with doing the splits?

ETA - wait...when did the trainer get a DUI? OMG, she took a cab to their house, had a bottle of wine in her purse and a big old hangover.

Wow, Ritchie has done the impossible...become the most unlikable character on the show.

Edited by andme, May 14 2012, 02:23 AM.
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Wow, does Bravo hate Teresa? Showing Melissa constantly caring for Audriana and all of them caring for Teresa's children while she's talking to JoeGo, like there's something WRONG there. Uh, Bravo -- it's a family gathering and I bet 100% Teresa asked someone "will you watch my kids for me while I'm ovah he-yah with Joey? Tanks."

So Melissa's toting around Audriana ... who has little Joey Jr? OOOPS!

And why did Teresa leave the meet-and-spat with JoeGo and go through the house to the front to find her kids? Bravo made it look like the kids were right there ... like she could hear Audriana calling for her ... I smell a big fucking editing monkey rat.

Kathy ... I was happy she said "I can think for myself" ... but she seriously, but seriously needs to tell her disgusting perverted husband to SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT TERESA. Enough! I'm quoting Auntie whatever from last week! ENOUGH.

I wonder why the audio was so fucked up in the car with Albert and Clownie.

Chris and Albie are thinking of buying a Jag. Yes. With what money? BRAVO SET-UP. Those boys ain't earned $80 all year, let alone $80K. Stupid.

Yeah, I liked the line at the very end of the workout segment, with Cow asking Alkie-Trainer "Are your pants on backwards?"

JoeGo cannot admit anything for the cameras ... I believe Teresa, that he has been putting down Joe Guidice for years. He's such a fidget.
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andme
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And you know, contrary to what Ritchie said, the freakin' Wakiles invited tons of people and no one wanted to come.

And I'd like to punch Cow in the face after each of her talking heads.

And in in the next episode, is Clownie really giving advice on child-rearing?
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ranjake
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eeks- I'm totally seeing it differently- but I don't give a crap enough to argue :)

I HATE that it's a "Gia's acting out" episode next week, evidently. I really feel for that little girl.
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Teresa is aching for her brother to just reach out and give her a huge hug. But he wants her to throw herself at his feet and admit "everything she's done wrong". She's right when she says they all want to see her break. Maybe she did get her nose up in the air the first season, but the whole Bravo set up creates that. Each Ho-wife has her little introduction that sets up her character. The first season with Tre paying for stuff with wads of cash?... It was hyped to death by Bravo.

Tre has done some crappy stuff, but Melissa has done equally as much, but I think with more venom. With all that is going on in Tre's life now (her own fault or not) she needs her brother's support, unconditionally. If Joe Go wants to be the bigger man, he should have waved away the camera and taken Teresa on the side and given her the support she needs. To me it is so clear she is hanging on by a thread, what with Juicy's issues and how hard she is driving herself to make money and keep on going. I can see JoeGo wanting some acknowledgement from Tre that she was wrong to trash Melissa, but with all she has on her plate, she is trying to preserve some dignity, he should just let it go for now and be her "Joey".
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Kathy ... I was happy she said "I can think for myself" ... but she seriously, but seriously needs to tell her disgusting perverted husband to SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT TERESA.


How about trying to set an example for her son and daughter? I'm sure she doesn't want a rift between them at some point in their lives, but exposing them to this crap along with their own father's trash talking and shit stirring? Nice mothering skills there Kathy!

And you just know that Rosie is a source of much mocking behind her back and that of Kathy. Richie and Joe Go are no more gay friendly than Joe Gui is.
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May 14 2012, 06:43 AM
eeks- I'm totally seeing it differently- but I don't give a crap enough to argue :)

I HATE that it's a "Gia's acting out" episode next week, evidently. I really feel for that little girl.
Same here.

On the one hand I do feel for Teresa but on the other hand, she caused most of it herself.
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Ranjake and Willy, you know, in Season 2, I completely flipped to hating Teresa. I loved her in S1, hated her for being such a troublemaker in S2 with Din-yell, and was so ready for Melissa to come on the scene and annihilate her in S3. But Melissa really showed her colors to be just, an all around despicable person with the thank you jesus's and the we pay our bills crap and the hag sisters. I was surprised I could have such a change of heart again, but I did. I suddenly realized Melissa is a manipulative little twat and she's maybe not caused these problems directly, but playing the "poor me" crap resonated with her husband and he reacted accordingly.

Look, men aren't always very smart - especially when they are being manipulated. Even the smartest of them can be coaxed a little into doing what the wife wants. There are variations of this though - Mr V and I will bicker at times and I'll think he's totally in the wrong and he goes off to do something, then I find out he amended his decision based on my thoughts because he gave it some thought. The other end of the continuum is my brother who actually has to ask his wife what to do when he feels a poop might come out his ass because she's got his brain in this jar on her dresser. I am guessing Joe Gorga is like that - trying to make the wife happy and so all that needling Melissa has done and he's reacted and his opinion and relationship with Teresa really did change. It's sad. I feel bad for her because you can see that she probably was big sister who could do no wrong and someone else managed to get between them.

The parts I don't get are when she says she wouldn't tell her husband things Joe Gorga said, what? At some point you have to make your new life with the husband and that becomes your family. For me it's less of being on Teresa's side and more of thinking that Melissa, Kathy and Richie are the most awful people on earth. I don't lump Joe Gorga into that because I think he has a heart, but he lets people do some thinking for him. He could resolve this if the other three would step out of it.

And Icy - yes, that editing was for shit. Melissa walking around a pool in heels tending to the kids. What the fuck ever.

I'm going to launch a one woman campaign to get Kathy and Rich off the show. Boring boring boring and trouble makers. What do they contribute? Does Richie have a job? Does kathy? Can we find out where smartie pants Victoria is applying to college? Can we get anything? Damn.
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Every reality star has relatives who are not famous and I'll bet a lot of them think "that coulda been me!" and "Why can't I have some of that? If she/he can?" ... but Bravo was the first that I recall to say "let's bring them on the show!!"

"Big mistake. Huge. See you later, I have more shopping to do." (Name that movie.)

Yeah, I thought about it more, Velvet -- last week, Rosie and her mom were plenty to babysit 10 kids. This week Teresa leaves the pool area and everyone's so hard put upon to take care of her four -- Teresa, meanwhile, probably relies on Gia to be the big sister (as she was; family tradition passed down) and watch out for the two youngest at least. And geez, so did my mom. I babysat my younger brothers from age 12 while Mom and Dad went out to shop! Of course, that was a different time, but that whole "Saint Melissa" routine via editing was one of the most pathetic ploys I've seen on this show in a long time, and that's saying something!
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May 14 2012, 12:27 PM
"Big mistake. Huge. See you later, I have more shopping to do." (Name that movie.)
Pretty Woman!!

I think that the Tre/Melissa thing goes back to way before there was any HoWife show. In my professional capacity as pretend armchair psychologist (ha!), I think that back in the day, JoGo worshiped Teresa. Even once she got married and had Gia, JoGo was probably over at their house all of the time doting on that baby.

Then he met Melissa, it got serious, they got married. Now Melissa was taking Joe's attention away from Teresa and her family and JoGo started to put Melissa first. Then Joe and Melissa started having their own children and Joe probably didn't dote on Gia as much as he used to. There are only so many hours in a day and he shifted his focus to his own family.

I think Teresa blamed all of that on Melissa and IMO, that's not fair to Melissa. Now, that's not to say that Melissa was all sweetness and light back then. I have no idea. I'm guessing she tried to be nice to Teresa at first but eventually probably realized it didn't do much good so at some point she said "screw it" and quit trying. At some point she probably started doing stuff on purpose to annoy Teresa.

I do think that JoGo treats Melissa way better than Juicy treats Teresa and that makes Teresa resent Melissa even more. Melissa has what Teresa wants and I'm sure at this point, Melissa has figured all of that out and doesn't hesitate to rub it in. It's wrong on Melissa's part but I can also see that there was probably a point where Melissa threw up her hands and realized she'll never make Teresa happy so why even bother trying anymore.

I certainly don't think that everything is Teresa's fault and I'm not Team Melissa either. I don't think Melissa coming on the show was going to help things one bit, and I don't believe for a minute that was really Melissa's motivation for signing on, but I do see that Teresa cannot seem to accept any responsibility for any of their problem either.

I'm meh on the Wakile's and the Manzo/Laurita's annoy me more each week.

Yet I keep watching, so what does that say about me? Wait. Don't answer that. :ermm:
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The parts I don't get are when she says she wouldn't tell her husband things Joe Gorga said, what? At some point you have to make your new life with the husband and that becomes your family.


But there are things said by a sibling to another sibling about one or the other's spouse that if repeated are going to cause an uproar. Especially when there are touchy subjects or there are ill feelings.

I can even see the "can I have a margarita?" statement being turned into "Teresa always has to have something special, why isn't sangria good enough for her?" being used to fan the flames of Joe and Teresa's latest fight. Later that night Joe is talking to Melissa about Teresa and instead of just listening and letting him vent, she'll slip that bit about the margarita in nice and subtle .

I don't think Joe Go was being honest when he said Joe Gui "never" liked him. There's been plenty of talk about "the old days" when the "guys had all kinds of fun together" Even Caroline talked about what fun Joe and Joe were when they used to go up to the cabin and party. I think Joe Go is rewriting history a bit there. If I recall they had a great time together when they all went on the charity walk, Richie, Joe and Joe were all bustng each other with the name calling and wrestling. Butr now that things are bad ...they were always bad.
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