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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:29 PM (63,197 Views)
ranjake
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Velvet
May 14 2012, 05:18 PM
Ranjake you are hilarious, do you think that if your opinion differs from the majority that we'll jump on you! We ain't like that here lady! :)

I have to admit- that makes me feel much better. Very nice that no one is taking any of this VERY FUN BS personally. It's fun. Juicy makes me laugh, too- but I laugh at him! So it's all good! I get what you're saying. He IS far more entertaining than Caroline! I think Caroline and Jacqueline have to be off the show next year, right? because there's really nothing left there at all.

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May 14 2012, 05:21 PM
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May 14 2012, 04:54 PM
Willy - I think Teresa's radar went up when Melissa made that comment early on when dating her brother "What am I stupid like my sisters/friends, I saw the money he had" or something to that effect. I think from that moment Teresa was crazy-protective.
That's assuming it happened exactly as Teresa says it happened. I have my doubts. We've seen her retell stories of things that we as viewers saw and Tree's version doesn't always match up to the truth. I could also see Melissa saying something like that as a joke and Teresa was either too dumb to get that it was a joke at the time or else she's twisted it along the way.
Well- that's interesting, too- because in kathy's blog last week- i think- she said they were all at dinner- and she, tree, and melissa were all making comments like that- they were all drunk and acting stupid.
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Yeah don't let your opinion being different stop you from posting. That's what makes the board have chatter. I sort of like posting something like I did last week where I said I think Richie has the hots for Tree, and then making my case and then others going "ok, I'm starting to see it" or pointing out where you missed a fact.

The place where the other board went awry was when people were so invested in a character as if they were friends, and then fights started when opinions against that person or their cause were stated. I honestly don't sense any of that here.

Also I think your opinions are extra valid because of the Jerz connection! Some of this stuff (humor, customs) is regional. Like Juicy is similar to half the guys in my high school in CT, so part of me understands him better than someone may from another part of the country because I grew up with meathead guys like that.
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May 14 2012, 05:29 PM
I forgot - Joe Guidice's remark about Melissa -- about how many guys who she "got with" before she married JoeGo. I'll bet that was a tense moment on their couch as they watched this week's episode.
"tramp" "horsey-face"! Not horse-face- "horsey-face"! and Kathy looks like a frog and Rosie a "butchy-boy"? Juicy does have a way with words! "Josephine"! I hope he doesn't tell Tree she looks like a "Neander-tall"!
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Don't judge me.... but for some reason I like the little fidget. He's a simple man... I mean that in all ways possible. I wouldn't want to know him personally, but he doesn't disgust me, like Caroline...

...speaking of which; I loved her comment that NOW she's getting cellulite, she's never had it before. Yeah, riiiight.Even thin people can have cellulite, and if you watch shows with models on the runway, you just might see some. Caroline is truly delusional. She only seems to be brutally honest with Lauren.

And did I hear Cow say that she's not talking to Dina? Wow, that Laurita clan is some disfunctional fambly!
Edited by discomom, May 14 2012, 06:15 PM.
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May 14 2012, 06:13 PM
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May 14 2012, 05:29 PM
I forgot - Joe Guidice's remark about Melissa -- about how many guys who she "got with" before she married JoeGo. I'll bet that was a tense moment on their couch as they watched this week's episode.
"tramp" "horsey-face"! Not horse-face- "horsey-face"! and Kathy looks like a frog and Rosie a "butchy-boy"? Juicy does have a way with words! "Josephine"! I hope he doesn't tell Tree she looks like a "Neander-tall"!

eta: yes, Velvet- I know those guys, too! If you went to some wakes in my husbands' distant (huge) family- you could swear you were on the Soprano's. ah, Jersey :)


disco- which is fidget? Joego? I kind of like him too. And you know what's weird? while I think Teresa TOTALLY made up the "rumor" that melissa would cheat- I think she could be right! Not that Melissa would cheat- but that she would trade him in for a taller Jersey homebuilder!

and yup- Dina's still not talking to ANY of them or their kids. Now that's a story I want to hear. Menopause I have at home :)
Edited by ranjake, May 14 2012, 06:20 PM.
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Ranjake - I think Juicy named all the women in the same vein they named the Carvel Cakes. Do you remember those commercials? The cakes were so lamely named - witchy the witch, whaley the whale. My brothers and I used to laugh so hard at the names. So Horsey Face, Butchy Butch, he has the Carvel Cake naming scheme!
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May 14 2012, 06:18 PM
Ranjake - I think Juicy named all the women in the same vein they named the Carvel Cakes. Do you remember those commercials? The cakes were so lamely named - witchy the witch, whaley the whale. My brothers and I used to laugh so hard at the names. So Horsey Face, Butchy Butch, he has the Carvel Cake naming scheme!
Oh Gawd! that's so funny! I STILL remember that commercial, too! "Butchy the Butch"!!!!!

I'm re-watching now. The Brownstone apartment has really shitty furniture :) They should've upgraded before they "bought" the Jag.
Edited by ranjake, May 14 2012, 06:35 PM.
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Man I missed a hot day of posting.

One of the comments that perked my ears up was when Tre said that she had three babies by the time Missy had one. Tre said it kinda dismissively. Like "of course I wasn't around I had three kids." Right or wrong, the Fidget (goaded by Missy) is keeping score when it comes to the kids. I think Missy was up in his ear all the time saying "look what a good uncle/aunt we are, and look what a bad aunt/uncle the Juicy's are." Missy is quick to talk about how Tre/Juicy didn't visit her at the hospital etc etc. I would bet money that Missy at one point was jealous of Gia too. It's really irrational to be jealous of a kid, but we all know it happens.

Tre on the other hand never seems to talk about how this impacts the kids, but more whines about how *she* misses the Fidget. Like Xmas last year the kids were third on her list of excuses as to why the Fidget and co were evil for leaving. She was #1, her dad and his 'hearts' was #2 and the kids were #3.
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ranjake, fidget is JoGo. He is probably a criminal, but he just seems like such an uncomplicated guy.
I'm sure I couldn't stand much more than a 5 minute conversation with him (or any of them, for that matter!) but this is the only franchise lately that is must-see for me.
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May 14 2012, 07:16 PM
One of the comments that perked my ears up was when Tre said that she had three babies by the time Missy had one. Tre said it kinda dismissively. Like "of course I wasn't around I had three kids." Right or wrong, the Fidget (goaded by Missy) is keeping score when it comes to the kids. I think Missy was up in his ear all the time saying "look what a good uncle/aunt we are, and look what a bad aunt/uncle the Juicy's are." Missy is quick to talk about how Tre/Juicy didn't visit her at the hospital etc etc. I would bet money that Missy at one point was jealous of Gia too. It's really irrational to be jealous of a kid, but we all know it happens.
See and I took that oppositely. To me, it seemed like JoeGo used to fawn all over Tree's kids until he started having his own. Kind of like with most things Tree/JoeGo, Teresa expects Joe to act in a way that she won't act herself.

I've been noticing pretty much since day 1 of the Gorga's coming onto the show that Melissa and JoeGo seem to be genuinely sweet to Teresa's kids, greeting them, saying nice things to them. Even Audrianna wanted Melissa to hold her last season when they were getting her dressed for that family photo and you can't make a kid that young fake it. Yet I don't recall seeing Teresa saying 2 words to any of the Gorga kids, ever.
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WW I think we are saying similar things - Tre was blaze about spending time with his kids when he and Missy were all about her kids prior to them having their own. However Missy, I venture to guess, was not always into kids (i.e she tolerated Tre's kids till she had her own) and when JoeGo doted on Gia I think Missy was jealous which is why she was in Fidgets ear about how terrible Tre is. Where I think we may differ is I don't think Tre still expects JoeGo to dote on her children, but rather on *her.*

My example was xmas - she bitched and moaned about how JoeGo left her xmas party an she wanted to spend time with him. When the Clown pressed it (I think in Jax's kitchen) Tre then changed it to - well he should have stayed b/c my dad is sickly...then later she talked about how Gia and the kids missed the Fidget. I contrast this with JoeGo and Missy who often *say* they want to fix things b/c of the kids. Now if that's genuine I dunno, Missy is smart enough to know that's what they should say.

ETA - I agree that Missy and JoeGo seem to genuinely love their nieces and nephews, but I think they keep track of things wrt the kids to later justify how they are so much better then Tre when it comes to bashing her and Juicy. Argh - I don't think that's what I wanted to say..I'll have to think on this one for a minute. I put it in the category of the "we pay our bills comment" like Missy goes out of her way to buy gifts for the kids etc etc b/c she know Tre doesn't do the same and she wants yet another thing to lord over the family and further prove to the Fidget that Tre is terrible.
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I don't think Tre could give two shits if Melissa or the kids came to Christmas or anywhere else. She only wants Joe there. I think she'd actually prefer he come alone.

I don't think Melissa was jealous of Teresa's kids exactly. I think she just expected Joe to put her and then, when they came along, their own kids first. And that's how it should have been. And that's probably when it all started going in the crapper.
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May 14 2012, 10:59 PM
I don't think Tre could give two shits if Melissa or the kids came to Christmas or anywhere else. She only wants Joe there. I think she'd actually prefer he come alone.

I don't think Melissa was jealous of Teresa's kids exactly. I think she just expected Joe to put her and then, when they came along, their own kids first. And that's how it should have been. And that's probably when it all started going in the crapper.
Makes sense.

And if it hasn't been noted before, the oldest Gorga kiddie, Antoinia - is that her name? has the sweetest little face. Definitely wins cutest Gorga/Giudice child contest. Uh, not that I'd ever hold such a contest (of course I would.)
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And when it comes to the kids, I've said it before and I'll say it again...

It speaks VOLUMES to me to look at the behavior of the Gorga kids versus that of the Guidice kids. The Gorga kids seem to behave and play together nicely. The Guidice kids are holy terrors. That's not something that Melissa can fake.
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