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Show Snark; Episode to Episode Snark
Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:29 PM (63,167 Views)
Shoppergal
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I'm rewatching and I think Tre is playing the semantics game. They are talking about In Touch - that's not the one she has a contract with and is very pro Tre (I think that's Life and Style). She in fact didn't get paid for *that* particular story, she's got a point...why would she contribute to a story that talks about how she's going to jail. The Clown and Jax aren't making the assumption that she is paid for all stories that she's on the cover. The 'contract' is with the pro Tre mag..which ever one that is. I may have the names mixed up.

ETA - what kills me is the fact that Juicy and Tre weren't prepared to issue an apology about the slurs. Any dummy (so right up their alley) can tell that Andy has a hard on about it - so why not come prepared. Juicy seemed sincere about how he regrets yelling at Tre, but the apology after the commercial break wasn't.

Oh and I think Jax is the one jealous of Tre. Remember, isn't this around the time she and Chris were filing for bankruptcy for the business and being sued for using business funds to pay for their lifestyle. I think she sees Tre as building new closets and newest LV and Gucci and she's jelly. Chris has probably tightened the purse strings in prep for the pending litigation and the Cow is jelly. Tre is hustling for her 'nice purse' (petty Cow dig as Tre was leaving) meanwhile Jax is swilling Bailey's from the bottle and has zero ability to contribute to her household's income but for RHoNJ.
Edited by Shoppergal, Jun 18 2012, 12:28 AM.
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I think the preview is the event that caused Jax to not show up to the reunion right?


May I just say that I think the whole "something happened last night so Cow didn't feel comfortable coming to the reunion" was pure and utter bullshit. Cow was looking for an excuse, ANY excuse not to show up at the reunion and have to defend her completely tragic parenting of her daughter. I mean the bitch ended up getting off Scot free due to the deflection of all the heartburn onto Tre.
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ranjake
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Every time someone writes "Cow"- I think they're talking about Caroline- I get confused. I have no idea who will be on this show next year. Jacq and Caroline have nothing left in the tank. I know Teresa will be on- or will she just get her own spin-off while Joe is away; and no RHNJ?

eta: must say that I do hate that you can go bankrupt, screw everybody, and buy big stuff again the next year. I know that's how it works (here at least) because I've seen people go bankrupt and buy a new boat the next year. It just hits home because we had a small business; but while we did get screwed over, at least we never had to declare bankruptcy.
Edited by ranjake, Jun 18 2012, 12:46 AM.
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Mariah
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Me too ranjake. I thought Cow was Caroline too. I can't keep all the nicknames straight! I read along and probably guess right 60% of the time though.
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Jacqueline is Cow because she's always chewing on something, even if it's just the scenery.
Caroline is Clownie because of the remark Danielle made about her being the clown since she has the red hair.

I had to watch in bits and pieces, but I think I've seen it all now ... Wow. I hate Clownie. Hate hur. Hate hue hair.

And Cow ... stupidity itself. Tree saw her as a genuine friend and in confidence told her about the building at the house, obviously. But Cow needs Tree to say things on the air? Which can be offered as proof in court? That ain't happening and even I have to say, Tree is smart to deny deny deny on camera. Cow's not being a friend to stupidly wander in between someone and a real live you-could-go-to-jail situation and get upset at that person for not wanting to incriminate themselves on camera. What an idiot.

Yeah, some producer or Chris called Clownie and said "now's your opportunity to get Tree" ... I had a proud mama moment for Tree when she immediately recognized the ambush for what it was.

BUT I was also proud of her for hugging and kissing Cow good-bye.

I thought they rescinded the bankruptcy filing? So why is Tree talking about "after a bankruptcy"??

And overall? Totally relieved that NOW -- finally -- Tree knows how Clownie feels ... it's out in the open, so Tree can save her kind remarks and joking and get to some return snark ... and maybe some insider info on Dina v Clownie.
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My DVR didn't record WWHL when it originally aired so I had to set it to record a showing in the middle of the night. Haven't watched it yet so I can't comment on the Juicy's appearance yet.

As far as the episode goes, I'm conflicted.

Jax is ridiculous. Either she really has no life and that little breakdown she had over Teresa not confiding her deep, dark secrets to her was real or else she was put up to start that whole fight, either by Caroline or the producers or a combination of both. Either way, it's effed up. And I am also not buying that Caroline just showed up, at night and in full filming makeup with a microphone on, just to return one of the kids swimsuits. Bull shit.

Most of what they were ranting and raving about was really none of their business. However, I do agree with this:
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I'm rewatching and I think Tre is playing the semantics game. They are talking about In Touch - that's not the one she has a contract with and is very pro Tre (I think that's Life and Style). She in fact didn't get paid for *that* particular story, she's got a point...why would she contribute to a story that talks about how she's going to jail. The Clown and Jax aren't making the assumption that she is paid for all stories that she's on the cover. The 'contract' is with the pro Tre mag..which ever one that is. I may have the names mixed up.

Teresa DOES sell stories to magazines, no matter how she tries to spin it. Maybe she's technically being paid for the photo shoot and not the interview, but there would be no photo shoot without the interview. She has contradicted herself so many times on camera over this issue I don't think she can even keep her story straight anymore. Seems to me if she really was only being paid to pose for photos and she had nothing to do with those stories, once she realized the stories being written were attributing quotes to her where she's supposedly saying terrible things about her family and friends that she'd quit making deal with those magazines. But that's not the case and she did confirm it in Chicago when she told Jax "They ask me questions and I answer them." Uh Tree, that's called giving an interview.

And the bankruptcy? I know that Tree had been hustling and still is to earn some money and I do give her credit for that. And I also don't think declaring bankruptcy means that you have to die or live in a cardboard box. However, I do think it means that you should have to sell your Mercedes, your LV bags (unless perhaps those bags were purchased on a shopping trip to the flea market with Taylor Armstrong), your monstrosity of a house, your backhoe's, etc. and live more within your means so you can repay your creditors quicker and you can bring the buildings that your slumlord husband owns up to basic living conditions. Until that happens, no, you should not be spending any money buying fancy furniture or building carports.

I don't see how they are even going to finish this season, much less film a season 5, with this same group. I mean, does anyone believe that they would all willingly still go on trips together or show up to the same events and hang out?
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discomom
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My thoughts ( and they aren't worth anything)

Totally agree that someone tipped Clown to come over. My thought was Chris.
Totally agree about Clownie's hair. It looked SO much better shorter (earlier seasons). She needs to cut it shorter, with volume on top, to draw the eye up. Right now, all it does it make you focus on her jowls.

I agree with ranjake about Juicy. I think he is a Neanderthal (no disrespect to our ancient cousins) and he's not the type I would proudly bring home to Mom and Dad. But I do think he saw how he came off to Tre and regrets it, and I do think he loves his daughters in his own gruff way. If he had a mess of sons, and one daughter, I'm thinking that girl would be a princess. While he has this "what the hell" attitude, I do think he is worried about going to jail, and then to have all of this in public... (it's of his own making, but still...).

Ranjake... had to smile at your impression of your husband's family when you met.... both of us are of Norwegian descent, lets just say Norwegians are NOT Italians! :)

Question to Jax: Who is watching your kids as you are swilling Baily's and a bottle of wine?

I read the article about Lauren's lap band this weekend on my B&N outing. She decided to loosen her lap band because she was out to dinner with her mom couldn't enjoy her meal, so she decided to loosen it and lose the rest on her own. Enjoy her meal? Does that mean pig out to the point of feeling like you are going to explode? Because weight loss surgery DOES NOT change your taste buds (meaning you can still enjoy the taste of your food) and it shouldn't make you feel uncomfortable IF you take your time and chew your food properly. (If you eat too fast, believe me, it is one of the WORST feelings in the world). Since my surgery, when I eat out, I usually eat 1/2 ( or if it is a ridiculously large portion, 1/3) of my meal and ask for the rest to be boxed up. Lauren is never going to keep any weight off until, like her dad said, she learns you cannot eat like a pig.

My, I'm chatty this morning! One last observation: this show is the only one that I still watch when it's on and don't DVR. Even NY has lost it's sheen for me.
Edited by discomom, Jun 18 2012, 10:44 AM.
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oleander
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I feel like the lap band is, obviously, such an easy way out for Lauren. A lot of the times, ppl who get weight loss surgery do so only after exhausting all other means. They know how difficult it is to lose weight, and they are able to appreciate the effects of the surgery more, and to change their habits and lifestyles to benefit from the surgery. I feel that lauren got the surgery for the simple reason that she is lazy. Yes, we saw her talking about weight loss, but did we ever see her actively trying to lose weight? No. We saw her go on diet after diet and not stick with any of them. Obviously it wasn't going to work. I think losing weight and keeping it off is all about a lifestyle change, and, clearly, Lauren was not willing to make that change.

Since she was not willing to make that change before, why is she willing to make the change after surgery? I don't think she is - she got the lapband loosened so she can enjoy more food? Thats really counterintuitive as to why she even got the surgery. Does she think she can get that surgery and still eat as before? Any way I look at it, it comes down to Lauren's inability to change her lifestyle to meet her goal. And why should she, really? She's obviously gotten what she wanted her whole life and is a spoiled, entitled brat - if this surgery ultimately doesn't work out, I'm sure she'll just get another.

Which brings me to another point - if she is not a housewife and not a star of the show, why the hell do we know so much about her freakishly boring life?
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Jun 18 2012, 12:15 PM
I feel like the lap band is, obviously, such an easy way out for Lauren. A lot of the times, ppl who get weight loss surgery do so only after exhausting all other means. They know how difficult it is to lose weight, and they are able to appreciate the effects of the surgery more, and to change their habits and lifestyles to benefit from the surgery. I feel that lauren got the surgery for the simple reason that she is lazy. Yes, we saw her talking about weight loss, but did we ever see her actively trying to lose weight? No. We saw her go on diet after diet and not stick with any of them. Obviously it wasn't going to work. I think losing weight and keeping it off is all about a lifestyle change, and, clearly, Lauren was not willing to make that change.

Since she was not willing to make that change before, why is she willing to make the change after surgery? I don't think she is - she got the lapband loosened so she can enjoy more food? Thats really counterintuitive as to why she even got the surgery. Does she think she can get that surgery and still eat as before? Any way I look at it, it comes down to Lauren's inability to change her lifestyle to meet her goal. And why should she, really? She's obviously gotten what she wanted her whole life and is a spoiled, entitled brat - if this surgery ultimately doesn't work out, I'm sure she'll just get another.

Which brings me to another point - if she is not a housewife and not a star of the show, why the hell do we know so much about her freakishly boring life?
She likes to eat, she likes food. She should try to find a balance between eating and exercising that will allow her to indulge in the foods she enjoys. She seems to have a pretty flexible schedule (lots of free time!!) why not find a hobby or sport she enjoys and spend an hour or two a day working on it. Hiking, biking, zumba whatever. I can't believe she was working out 2 hrs a day and not losing weight. Though I can imagine what she and mom thought a workout was. Maybe an hour or two a day on bike would allow her to enjoy a big Sunday meal without damaging her diet.
It also seems like so much of their family lifestyle is centered around food, that makes it difficult. Maybe she could borrow one of Teresa's lower calorie recipe books?
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Hate to say it but if I needed to lose the amount of weight she does I'd take the easiest way too. I'll admit it ... I'm lazy. They actually did a study and said even adding exercise if the diet isn't changed you'll gain back the weight from any of the diets, bands or surgery. It was a surprising result. Not that exercise doesn't make you healthier. This was just about the weight portion.
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I just watched last night's episode and Jax and Clownie are real pieces of shit.
Jax clearly was trying to get Teresa to implicate herself by bringing up all of the bankruptcy stuff and the new closet and the new purse, shopping etc. (Oh and clearly she talked to Melissa bc she was happy to bring up that shit when she was sitting on the steps with the hag sisters.
Caroline's big gripe against Teresa is the "insult" about Crittofer? Really? Petty, jealous piece of shit. What a melodramatic, grudge holding, bitter person. It sucks to have a melting face and three lazy loser children Caroline - but it ain't Teresa's fault.
Oh and the little snippet of the Manzo wunderkinds with Greg calling out Asslee for being lazy, as they sit there, unemployed shoving food in their mouths.
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I think Jax got nothing else to talk about. They probably gave her a script.
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Finestra
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Well, maybe Clownie gave her the script, bc I think you are right Charley, Jax seemed like she had a script she was following. And I do believe she was trying to get Teresa to say things on film that would hurt her in her bankruptcy cases.
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HA! The gloves are off! Teresa tears those bitches a new one: http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-4/blogs/teresa-giudice/you-cant-argue-with-crazy?page=0,0&Don%27tBeTardyfortheWeddingTakeover=1
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discomom
Jun 18 2012, 10:44 AM


I agree with ranjake about Juicy. I think he is a Neanderthal (no disrespect to our ancient cousins)
Bwaaahahaha

Great blog by Tree. LMAO at the dig on Jaq's wedding to Chris, with no wedding dress ( she says I won't say why) awesome
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