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Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 05:29 PM (63,164 Views)
ranjake
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Shoppergal
Jun 19 2012, 04:15 PM
but it was also possible that umpteen other folks could be cast is the way I took the exchange between Tre and Andy. They weren't just looking at Kathy and Missy an the final OK wasn't told to Tre until they were damn near filming.
She made it clear she knew it was a possibility THEY(Melissa/Kathy)would be cast; because that's who Andy was talking about. They were talking about her family, not other people who go to Chateau. She admitted she knew from Andy- 2 months before. She didn't want to- but she really did. As far as her being angry about what her family told her and when- I'm not judging- it's a separate issue- especially if Melissa tried to eff her over via Danielle just prior- but she did admit it. I heard her- she tried to lie- but it didn't work. -

Just because the rest of them suck- and she gets much better PR- doesn't mean she's not still calculating, wants attention-Tree. The one who wrote the shit-talking blog about bethenny at the beginning of the Jill/Bethenny fight- who randomly said every make-up person in NYC said Bethenny was horrible to work with a big snob- blah-blah-blah. This is NOT St. Teresa... Tree can say "they lie. they spin". all she wants. and they do. But so does she...
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I don't care. She knew or knew it was a good possibility. Sorry Tre didn't want them because she wanted to be the only famewhore in the fambly. God that must have sucked. She must have stewed for 2 months. I actually believe Andy. He probably even has it taped.
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I believe she knew family was being considered, but I think it being Melissa was the shocker. Kathy, not so much and I can't see why Tree would care. Andy lies, IMO, often and easily. He might have said to her "We're talking to family members of all you ladies, so be prepared!" and she -- thick-headed -- didn't get it. To him: I told her. To her: Andy's such a jokester!
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It didn't seem like that, Icy. That's not what I got. She may not speak well, but she said she writes every word of her blogs by herself; she's not that dumb. Andy made it clear who they were talking about. She said she knew- her beef was she didn't hear it early FROM Melissa. She also said to Andy that she does NOT get paid by magazines. In her blog last week, she said she got paid for photos. When I think the truth is she gets paid for the photos, does the interviews, and has a contract with a certain mag. Why lie and make it all convoluted? Why not just say "eff you- I'm the breadwinner- I'm making $$ for my family". She's spinning a lot of lies. If I wanted to make an itemized list- it would be long at this point. She's lucky she's not being heavily scrutinized at this point due to the more intense hatred of Caroline and Jacq- but she sure enough lies just like they do. And Melissa, too- the whole Danielle thing. It's actually really hard to figure out what the truth is at this point.
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Everything you said Ranjake. I could not have written it better myself. I would have sounded like Tre. She has lied and been caught in a web of lies and then plays SUPERDUMB. She is stupid but she knows what she gets paid for and how the game is played. Now she's calling a few questions a non interview. Give me a break. It's not a big deal. Why give away something you can get paid for for free? I think she also has a tell - she makes this certain face that you have to look for when she's caught in a lie and she cocks her head a little with a sly smile. She can't help it.
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Cosmo your assessment of Lauren reminds me of that odd quote people would say that I never understood - "wherever you go, there you are." I never really understood wtf that meant until someone explained it's basically a way of saying that you can run from your problems but they just follow you because YOU are the problem, or whatever. So like you said, Lauren has pinned all the world's problems on her weight and she's missing the rest of why she's so unfulfilled.
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Jun 19 2012, 05:28 PM
Everything you said Ranjake. I could not have written it better myself. I would have sounded like Tre. She has lied and been caught in a web of lies and then plays SUPERDUMB. She is stupid but she knows what she gets paid for and how the game is played. Now she's calling a few questions a non interview. Give me a break. It's not a big deal. Why give away something you can get paid for for free? I think she also has a tell - she makes this certain face that you have to look for when she's caught in a lie and she cocks her head a little with a sly smile. She can't help it.
Double ditto here. Tree kept trying to tell Andy she didn't know Kathy and Melissa were being cast and Andy kept saying yes she did. When Tree kept protesting he finally said something like "I told you myself on the phone. You knew we'd been talking to them for several months." Then she finally agreed with him and what he said but threw in that she was mad that the info came from him and not Kathy or Melissa. So she knew, she just was unhappy with who told her. Which really means she wasn't mad that they didn't tell her they were coming on the show, she was mad they didn't ask her permission to do it so she could have told them no.

It was the same thing with the whole "do you sell stories to magazines" thing. She said before she sells the photos, not the interviews. Well, that jig has been up for awhile with interviews and we all know how that works. Taylor Armstrong sold "photos" to Dr. Phil and ET and gave the interviews for "free". Casey Anthony's parents sold "photos" to countless news shows and magazines and gave interviews for "free." Tree sells interviews. Period.
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Well I loved that JUICY blog she wrote, I think she was holding a lot of that in for a while and my comment made it on to Bravo, finally!

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WOW!! You just hit it right out of the park! I need a cigarette after reading that and I don't smoke. Finally, the truth. Well done.
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Good Job Velvet.

I still believe Andy told her that he was talking to many people in their lives, including family members. Knowing Teresa, she probably bad mouthed them and said they were boring, etc, and thought that that was the end of that!

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Apparently they were already on the outs and things weren't great with them so them not speaking with them about it wasn't that big a deal. It was a dig from them to TRe and mean but she was not surprised. It's gonna get ugly. Can't wait for the reunion. I actually hope Cow shows up
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Jun 19 2012, 06:26 PM
Good Job Velvet.

I still believe Andy told her that he was talking to many people in their lives, including family members. Knowing Teresa, she probably bad mouthed them and said they were boring, etc, and thought that that was the end of that!

Nope. Andy says specifically that he/Bravo was talking to them in particular and Teresa says she knew that but KATHY & MELISSA didn't personally tell her, Andy did. And somehow in Teresaville, that means that she had absolutely no idea they might be coming on the show.

It starts at the 2:45 mark.
http://stoopidhousewives.com/2012/06/18/teresa-giudice-tree-and-joe-giudice-on-wwhl-after-show-part-i-video-andy-cohen-says-tree-knew-melissa-and-kathy-were-potential-hws/
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I'm watching the aftershow now, Juicy Joe said that what bothered her was that all her friends would call her and say "Bravo called me" and she was thrown off by the fact that Kathy and Melissa didn't call her. It does make it look like something was stirring behind Teresa's back, and it makes sense Bravo would sniff that out and latch on to it.

Okay, I love the game they did, they hand a card to Juicy to see if he thinks she'll pronounce it right and Juicy can barely read the word! LOL!
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Jun 19 2012, 06:41 PM
Finestra
Jun 19 2012, 06:26 PM
Good Job Velvet.

I still believe Andy told her that he was talking to many people in their lives, including family members. Knowing Teresa, she probably bad mouthed them and said they were boring, etc, and thought that that was the end of that!

Nope. Andy says specifically that he/Bravo was talking to them in particular and Teresa says she knew that but KATHY & MELISSA didn't personally tell her, Andy did. And somehow in Teresaville, that means that she had absolutely no idea they might be coming on the show.

It starts at the 2:45 mark.
http://stoopidhousewives.com/2012/06/18/teresa-giudice-tree-and-joe-giudice-on-wwhl-after-show-part-i-video-andy-cohen-says-tree-knew-melissa-and-kathy-were-potential-hws/
I still don't doubt that Teresa badmouthed them to Andy when he told her they were potential hires, and then when she didn't hear from them, she probably thought it worked and that Andy was looking in a new direction, especially since her Facebook friends were telling her that Bravo called them. I am sure she was beyond pissed when she found out that they signed.

I think it goes beyond Teresa not wanting to share the spot light (which I am sure is part of it). I think that one would have to feel that they were being set up or sabotaged. I think it is natural to be annoyed if your cousin and sister in law (with whom you are on the outs or are in competition with) signed on your show and didn't tell you.

I think Clownie and Jax probably sided with Teresa initially because they also smelled a set up.
Edited by Finestra, Jun 20 2012, 09:33 AM.
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Okay, I watched the after show and I agree with Finestra -- Tree was told something that (for whatever reason) did not equal "Melissa and Kathy coming on the show" and was shocked when she found out. The whole "they didn't tell me" part of it -- I think that's where her broadest and directest lies come in. No matter how she found out, I think she'd be pissed. Again, IMO, not so much about Kathy, but Melissa's presence is like the gasoline to Tree's match. I can't see her EVER liking Melissa. JoeGo aside, there's just something about Melissa that bugs Tree.
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Jun 19 2012, 07:32 PM
there's just something about Melissa that bugs Tree.
Yeah, there's a ton of things about Melissa that bug me, so I can only imagine what Tree feels.
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