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| oleander | Jun 10 2013, 10:28 PM Post #2266 |
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I'm not sure about that, Icy. My boyfriend learned Mandarin before he learned English. He's fluent in both and speaks only Mandarin when he's with his family. He has no problems articulating in English at all, and Mandarin is so different from English. It's not like Italian and English which are both romance languages. But, then again, I think the bf is a tad bit brighter than Tre. In the end, I think Tre doesn't articulate things well and she's a bit stupid. No hating on the articulation part, though, since some ppl are much better in writing than the spoken word. |
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| Finestra | Jun 10 2013, 10:30 PM Post #2267 |
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I don't know Rye, I find the Gorgas and Wakiles so much more vulgar than Brandi because I think they are trying to outdo each other's crudeness with their remarks. They are seedy. Brandi is trashy but I don't think she demeans sex the way this crew of animals does. It is funny, Brandi technically is vulgar, but I don't think I need a bath after hearing her talk. The Wakile/Gorga group is just so fucking gross. And Teresa talking about having a period and Joego going down on Melissa? It's disgusting. A tampon string is not gross. If Brandi had said, "Mommy what is that BLOODY String coming out of your pussy" then I would think she reached the Wakile level of vulgarity. Brandi's comments aren't dripping with salaciousness. I don't care about Clownie saying fuck or cursing. She doesn't have the holier than thou attitude about cursing. |
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| WillyWonka | Jun 10 2013, 10:32 PM Post #2268 |
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I get tired of it coming from Brandi too sometimes. I'm trying to think of why it's different coming from her. I mean, it IS different somehow but I don't really know why. Maybe it's because she just kids around and it's obvious she's kidding around? Or at least she acts like she knows she shouldn't be saying it whereas Richie and the rest of them act like that's just a normal way to talk? I really don't know. Good question. |
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| oleander | Jun 10 2013, 10:34 PM Post #2269 |
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Haha, Rye. I didn't think of it that way, but you're right. When it comes down to it, I think Brandi is every bit as vulgar as those disgusting freaks. I think it's better from her (a) b/c she's prettier and (b) much of the time, she's talking about her personal experiences, you know? At least, that's why i'm not as grossed out. Richie is disgusting and he always talks about other people, for the most part. I also think it is better coming from her because she's a woman. It's stupid, but it's believable - as a woman, she's seen as freeing and liberating speaking about her sexual escapades. It's something not often seen in women (I guess?) because women aren't supposed to love sex. Obviously, it's not true, but it goes back to past social norms, I think - women are supposed to tolerate sex. Here is Brandi, a beautiful woman, talking freely about how she loves sex. She speaks freely about her body, too, and both these things, combined, shows that she's comfortable with herself, something that so many women are not. So it's less disgusting from her. With Richie - it's a disgusting man making his disgusting perverted comments about women. There's nothing freeing or liberating about it. Not sure how to go there with Rosie, though. She's just gross to me. |
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| andme | Jun 10 2013, 10:41 PM Post #2270 |
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Lol, beats me...but it's awesome to make fun of old fish lips. Maybe it has to do with sympathy for Brandi because of the shitty thing Eddie did to her? And that Adrienne and Kyle are so unlike able, it's easier to take her side? I never thought I'd defend Silverback, but Clownie and Cow are just so fucking awful. Edited by andme, Jun 10 2013, 10:41 PM.
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| Camo | Jun 10 2013, 11:23 PM Post #2271 |
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I think the thing of tolerating more from Brandi because of her looks is partly true, rye, but Finestra captured the revulsion I feel with that whole Wakile/Gorga crew when it comes to sex, and sexualizing women in particular. They are a seedy, repellent group. I feel like Richie is actively trying to degrade women with how he looks at and speaks to them. I'm imagining some of the parents seeing him mock their daughters' weights want to punch him in the face. |
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| IcyAll | Jun 11 2013, 02:52 AM Post #2272 |
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Richie is the type of guy who would fuck a woman and then call her a whore. Brandi would fuck a guy and still be his friend when he married someone else. |
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| Finestra | Jun 11 2013, 07:25 AM Post #2273 |
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Who knew there were so many levels of vulgarity! ;) |
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| ryebread | Jun 11 2013, 07:25 AM Post #2274 |
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Thanks for answering. If I'm honest, she does offend me less than the NJ crew because she's prettier. And I'm ashamed of that because who hasn't seen the prettier girl get the job, get the guy, get the better service? Beautiful people get all kinds of advantages that mere mortals do not. That is proven fact. And the good looking, thin woman or man getting the job over the overweight, unattractive, more qualified woman or man is wrong and bigoted. Further, I don't dislike Brandi because of her foul mouth. I can talk like a truckdriver with the best of 'em. (Although if she would have said "kiss my tiitties" to Adrienne I might've flinched.) What I perceive as her callousness is my problem with her. And that 90% of the population doesn't agree with me. LOL. Which makes me feel like something's wrong with me - obviously makes me question my reasoning. Just like the ridiculously beautiful, loud mouthed, more popular girl in high school did. ;) I think I cut Brandi slack in the past because she's pretty and friends with Lisa, whom I loved. Notice past tense. I think the gild is chipping off the rose for me for that one, too. Can not WAIT for next season! |
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| ryebread | Jun 11 2013, 07:27 AM Post #2275 |
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LOL. Right? It's like if Cow mentioned in passing that Nickolas and CJ have seen her bagina strings, we would've had, well, a cow. |
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| Finestra | Jun 11 2013, 07:31 AM Post #2276 |
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Rye it's very funny, I wouldn't want my daughters speaking like Brandi. The whole "Bagina String" was said with such affection for her kid, even with mimicking the little kid voice. So even if it was gross, Brandi wasn't trying to sexualize it. I think if Richie said it, it would have been directed at the tampon-wearer with a, "hey, nice bagina string" while he was jerking off under the table. |
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| cccharley | Jun 11 2013, 08:06 AM Post #2277 |
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Oh come on - they are talking about little kids. English isn't her 2nd language though. It would be her Italian that became odd. They outgrow this by the time they elementary. Some of them don't speak until later either because they are learning both at once and they internalize their words. I know 3 kids who are my daughter's age bi-lingual and they all spoke significantly later than my kid. One had services and was talking before the other 2. One does Russian and English and her speech still sucks but her idiot ped didn't notice she was tongue tied until she was at least 5 yo. She got it snipped so her English doesn't sound great and her diction stinks. She took speech though thanks to me pushing her mom and she's getting better all the time by doing the exercises. The speech therapist released her already. Cow had a nose job. You can see the ski slope. Edited by cccharley, Jun 11 2013, 08:07 AM.
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| ryebread | Jun 11 2013, 08:51 AM Post #2278 |
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My son, neither. He'd think soap was a condiment. To her credit, (I think?) Brandi doesn't want her sons talking like Brandi either:
I know she's joking but if she's as free in her thinking/speech as she appears to be, the world does not need 2 more Rich Wakiles. Cute as they may be. But because they're cute, will it be okay? LOLOL My brain hurts. Can we please not speak of Rich Wakiles jerking off. Like, ever? ACK!! |
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| WillyWonka | Jun 11 2013, 10:58 AM Post #2279 |
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My high schooler has a friend whose mother is Korean. This kid has always been able to switch back and forth between Korean and English without any problem. |
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| Velvet | Jun 11 2013, 11:33 AM Post #2280 |
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Thank you. Could not have said this better myself. |
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