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| WillyWonka | Sep 30 2013, 10:25 AM Post #2926 |
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Wasn't Frenchie one of the girls from Grease? |
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| WillyWonka | Sep 30 2013, 10:29 AM Post #2927 |
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Well, it was obvious they were setting up their defense, which is that Tre knew nothing and Juicy will try and take the fall. But when Andy asked her "Did you know?" I have to say her little "no" just screamed "YES!" to me. And good luck blaming it on the accountants. They can only file taxes using the W-2's, etc that you give them. Are they trying to say the accountants made up the fake W-2's? If so why haven't they filed complaints against all of them with the licensing boards in NJ? Accountants can tell you til they're blue in the face that you need to file your taxes this year but they can't make you do it either. I also think Tre is trying to act like her attorney has never told her what the charges are or how much time they may be facing, she reads it in the magazines. I don't know why they even agreed to that interview with Andy. They couldn't answer most of the questions people want to know (and I don't blame them for not answering) so why sit there for 30 min saying "I can't answer that"? |
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| IcyAll | Sep 30 2013, 11:49 AM Post #2928 |
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I think they came on the show with Andy because they're stupid. And Bravo strong-armed them via the contract and with threats of cutting them from the show. Andy asked her if she intended to continue doing the show and she said "I want to keep working" -- she doesn't see it as fun anymore, just as work and a paycheck, that is obvious. She did say she understands some of the charges and is understanding more and more as her attorneys explain them. But I have to admit, I don't even understand "wire fraud" -- I know some are technical names, laws named when wiring was intrinsic to the process. But they just sound incomprehensible to me. Sounds like the gov't is trying to pile it all on and make it stick with one of the charges at least. I suspect a bunch of the charges will fail and a few will .... well, if I was on a jury with 39 counts to consider, in a human frailty capacity, I might think "one charge at least has to be true" ....you throw it all at the wall and hope something sticks. |
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| Velvet | Sep 30 2013, 01:05 PM Post #2929 |
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Basically it sounds like one thing they did that proliferated into a bunch of charges. Lie on an application for a loan and that's fraud. Give that application to a lender who then mails/wires/fed exes related documents places, bam, more charges. I think they did this separate show because they won't discuss it on the reunion. And the reason they didn't discuss on the reunion was probably b/c Jax and Missy wouldn't be able to keep their mouths shut from spewing garbage and lies, so Tree and Joe can't take that risk but know they must address this somehow. They did the right thing in my opinion. Their lawyers vetted all the questions and they were coached for the answers. Cross it off the list and now we don't have to address it at the reunion. I could have lived without the ominous Eminem jailhouse music in the background. Really inappropriate. |
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| Finestra | Sep 30 2013, 01:12 PM Post #2930 |
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Maybe Andy can ask Jac all about her bankruptcy and fleecing Signature Apparel. I think it is time for Andy to roll out the unedited tapes and then put in the same talking heads after the scene just to show how much on board the HWs are with the editing shenanigans. |
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| Camo | Sep 30 2013, 01:37 PM Post #2931 |
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I watched a couple of minutes of WWHL and just couldn't because I felt it so uncomfortable and disgusted with Andy. I agree - the Signature Apparel stuff is very, very serious and really fleeced a lot of people out of serious money, and the defrauding of Susan G. Komen is also appalling. The Gorgas and possibly the Wakiles have also built a house of cards. The Laurita's shit has already hit the fan but not a single speck of it made it to air, right? Al's use of the two addresses, the apparent known fact of him having a long-term girlfriend: nothing. Going after the Giudice's - I guess it's just who he hates the most, and it's not that they are innocent in any real way but damn. The little bit I saw seemed unnecessary and it seemed really crazy that their attorneys okayed the interview, but I didn't watch it in full.
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| cccharley | Sep 30 2013, 01:55 PM Post #2932 |
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Shoot was Tre on WWHL last night? Icy read up on wire fraud. They will explain each and every charge to the jury. It may take them awhile to figure it out and they may find them not guilty on many counts but one follows the other. I bet it will take awhile and I hope they find a good jury who doesn't know who these idiots are. I have no doubt that she very well knew that she was shirking the law. I just don't care. Living like a queen in her ugly mansion owned by nobody else until the house of cards comes tumbling down. Right now I'm concentrating on them - then when the others get charged (if they do) I'll move on to them. They should all share a cell. Wouldn't that make a reality show? I feel nothing for Tre - sorry. I feel for her children she keeps popping out. Wouldn't be surprised if she's trying to get pregnant again right this second to feel sympathetic to her jury and get off. CELL BLOCK BIG HAIR - CROSS THE BRIDGE IF YOU DARE. THEY'LL PULL YOU'RE HAIR OUT OR HIT YOU WITH HEELS, THAT'S WHY THEY CAN'T WEAR SHOES. Edited by cccharley, Sep 30 2013, 01:58 PM.
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| ISH | Sep 30 2013, 02:30 PM Post #2933 |
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We had a guy on one of the local government "Authorities" who was doing the same thing. He created phony W-2s and paystubs using the format from the ones he received from us (they were legit) he also used his mother's passbook and account number(slightly altered) to verify savings. He had the mortgage companies calling a certain number here which he had forwarded to his office number and verified employment. He was able to procure lots of mortgages and re-fi's for his clients. When you actually look at what he did.. the actual paperwork was incredibly sloppy, but he was working with a loan agent he knew (don't think they were in on it) and with a newer mortgage company. He was able to schmooze any questions they had. As long as the people who got the mortgages made their monthly payments all was good, it was when they started to default it all came out. With Joe and Tre I think the same thing would have happened.. nothing as long as the payments were made on time. When the market crashed and there was no more cash flowing in that's when things went sour for them. I'll bet if you or so many of the other posters on here got a look at what was sent as documentation for the G's applications.. you would have been suspicious. But the people in these loan offices .. it's not their money, they don't care, as long as someone gives them the "right" answer it's approved. Things are much tougher and tighter now, but back then I bet I could have gotten a mortgage in my dog's name. That's if I had the balls to attempt it. Edited by ISH, Sep 30 2013, 02:32 PM.
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| WillyWonka | Sep 30 2013, 03:05 PM Post #2934 |
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Maybe, but regardless they all knew they were lying. They all knew they were faking documents. They all knew that was illegal. It's really that simple. Now if that were me, I don't know that I'd know that I was committing wire fraud or mail fraud but I'd know I was committing lots of other fraud. I would also know to run far, far away from any mortgage broker or anyone who tried to get me to fake documents. |
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| cccharley | Sep 30 2013, 03:46 PM Post #2935 |
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Okay - didn't know they were doing an interview but I don't think it was just Andy - I think it was them too. Tre wants to tell the public she is not guilty and a good person and turn on the tears. Honestly, do they have to do WWHL in their contracts? Can't she turn it down? Cow didn't even do the reunion last year. I dare Andy to fire her if she didn't go. I think she couldn't resist. Sorry just can't come over to her side and as you know I think they are all horrid. Melissa is so fake it's a joke just listening to her voice. I find her way worse than the Cow. |
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| Finestra | Sep 30 2013, 03:52 PM Post #2936 |
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I really think the Wakiles and the Gorgas are the biggest pieces of shit on this show. I hope Bravo is punking them and next season will be all of the outtakes of all of the bullshit that happened this season. |
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| ISH | Sep 30 2013, 07:30 PM Post #2937 |
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Oh I'm not really defending them. I'm just commenting on how easy it was to fake documents. Or maybe, how little scrutiny documents actually get in some companies.IMO Joe and Tre didn't wake up one day and decide to commit this huge fraud, I think it started small and just snowballed. They should have had the sense to put a stop to it but didn't. I do think they had, shall we say, help, from various shady characters. Probably people that were recommended to them by other people in their circle. I'm betting that Rich had/has plenty of input from accountants who guide him in filing his taxes for his gas stations. Any business that deals with lots of cash, chances are some of it is skimmed off and never reported to the IRS. The key is to report sufficient earnings to make a profitable business and look like you live within that means. Don't bring attention to yourself. Sadly for them RHWNJ brought attention to them. I still think they'll cut a deal. Hefty fines and Joe may go to some white collar country club jail for a spell. Tre I think will get probation/suspended sentence. No where near 50 years. |
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| cccharley | Sep 30 2013, 08:23 PM Post #2938 |
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I'm just tired of them saying they are such good people. Bet before this show they never gave a dime to charity - oh I'm mean except the charity of themselves. Why are they such good people? They want people to feel badly for them and I just cannot do that. Joe may be funny as is Milania but I don't think there is any way he didn't know exactly what he was doing just like when he got his fake license. The wife wanted fame and she got it and needs to take everything that goes with it. |
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| Finestra | Oct 1 2013, 04:06 PM Post #2939 |
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So this is funny, Melissa writes in her book that her son was named after his grandfather "Giancarlo" but his name is Giancinto. Then she writes that JoeGo had no aunts or uncles or cousins in the US. I guess she forgot about Rosie and Kathy. And apparently from the comments of famewhorgas, Kathy and Rosie have several brothers. It's funny how I never think outside the show when thinking of the siblings of the HWs. |
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| cccharley | Oct 1 2013, 04:11 PM Post #2940 |
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She is truly a walking, talking moron. I also think she thinks she is really smart. Wonder how she did on her SATs Edited by cccharley, Oct 1 2013, 04:11 PM.
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