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New Jersey In The Media; Recaps, Reviews, Media Gossip @ NJ
Topic Started: Dec 24 2011, 11:03 PM (60,381 Views)
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Finestra
Oct 24 2014, 01:28 PM
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I don't think he knows how to earn an honest paycheck. I don't think the judge should allow him to be self employed. He just can't run a legit business.

Tre will pay by being away from her girls for over a year and worrying that Joe isn't getting them to dance lessons or making sure they do their homework. I don't think she cares that she'll be without her extensions and spray tans too much. She'll make her money when she gets out by having her prison story ghost written.

I think Juicy actually is probably a good builder, but they were all working under his dad's contractor's license.

ITA about Tre worrying about the girls and Joe taking care of them. I also agree that she won't really care about her hair. All of her day-to-day twitter photos show her with her hair in a pony tail or under a baseball cap. She only has it done for appearances it seems and then seems to wear it that way until it wears out. I think Gia will be running the show. I hope he stops drinking. His mom should move in.
I've said it before but I really don't think Joe and Tre started out thinking they were going to defraud people. There has been plenty of articles and cases in the news about others who do the same thing. Faking documents isn't all that uncommon. We had a case here at work where someone was creating bogus W-2s and paystubs. They took legit items of their own and cut and pasted information for others on it. But when they got caught, we got a copy of the indictment and it was fascinating to read just how many people were involved.. high powered local lawyers and government department heads. When we saw the evidence, it was so obviously faked.. current, quarter to date and Ytd figures didn't jib with the chronology of the paystubs. A real amateur job. BUT because they used the right mortgage company, the right broker etc, it all got passed thru and they got the mortgages. And this was recent stuff, Joe and Tre did their shit back in 2003 maybe before. Face it neither of them is a scholar, so someone was helping them or guiding them. They aren't the only ones with dirty hands. I'm figuring their mentality was business is good, it will always be good, we'll use this money to float the next job and when we get paid for that we can pay the bills, it probably worked for a while. Till the housing market crashed. I think Joe is a better builder than a business man. I bet his bathrooms all work... I'm looking at you Joe Gorga!!

But Joe's father dying in front of him, and Joe knowing that even if the old man was being supportive of him, that he had brought shame on his dad, on top of Tre having to go to jail? That takes a toll on someone. That kind of emotional stress is not healthy. Joe is a prime candidate for a heart attack himself.
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Well back before the 2008 breakdown anyone could get a mortgage or a loan. Most knew they were defrauding but were also pushed by the mortgage brokers. In the G's case though they borrowed easy money in amounts that were unconscionable for those in their income bracket. He knew. He just thought he wouldn't get caught because everyone else was doing it. Guess what? Not everyone was doing it. I wish I had purchased an apt back bw 2002 and 2007 but they were going up so quickly because everyone was buying and flipping it was absurd. We didn't have income proof because of my dh's business. So we blew it off. We wouldn't have lied but would have had a hard problem proving income. It was NO problem back then. In today's new world you can't.
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I think Teresa was right when she said, "Everyone was doing it." Because I think everyone she knew was doing it. A lot of the Giudice's have lost their homes. The parents just had one go into foreclosure, I think Pete either declared bankruptcy or had a house foreclosed upon too. Joe Gorga had lots of shady deals with real estate and supposedly sold his dad's house out from under him with empty promises. And then used a construction loan and ended up living in the house.

Ish I agree that someone showed those two knuckleheads how to do it. They may have even have had a friend down at the bank. But they kept doing it because it was easy once they figured it out. I just want to know what they did with all the money. Did they buy rental properties for investment properties? Were they really flipping properties or were they just spending the money?

I am annoyed she never paid anything back with her Bravo salary or her book sales.
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It seems like the judge was more interested in sending them to jail than having them pay financially.
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I think their creditors can still go after them, but jeez. She's made a ton of $ over the last few years. And she was fined by the court, frankly, I say screw court fines, make her pay back her debts first, then the court. The small creditors first, then the banks. The banks should have been watching their Ps and Qs and doing a little background checks on these people.
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Oct 25 2014, 11:47 AM
I think Teresa was right when she said, "Everyone was doing it." Because I think everyone she knew was doing it. A lot of the Giudice's have lost their homes. The parents just had one go into foreclosure, I think Pete either declared bankruptcy or had a house foreclosed upon too. Joe Gorga had lots of shady deals with real estate and supposedly sold his dad's house out from under him with empty promises. And then used a construction loan and ended up living in the house.

Ish I agree that someone showed those two knuckleheads how to do it. They may have even have had a friend down at the bank. But they kept doing it because it was easy once they figured it out. I just want to know what they did with all the money. Did they buy rental properties for investment properties? Were they really flipping properties or were they just spending the money?

I am annoyed she never paid anything back with her Bravo salary or her book sales.
I think most of the money was in the construction loans and in they owned a few buildings. There were credit cards and that kind of stuff but it was small change in comparison to the mortgage/construction stuff. The banks recouped some of that with the foreclosures. I'm sure Nordstrom and the other stores will eat a lot of their loss.

I never believed that she was paying delivery men with thousands of dollars cash. She came close to saying to Andy that whole bit was a producer driven
set up. Even the bit about not wanting to live in other people's homes because it's skeevey and unclean, I think was fed to her. I saw her cleaning up ants in her kid's playroom the other night and she wasn't freaked out about it. I think the "Teresa" persona that she created with Bravo's encouragement is far from the real Teresa in some ways. In one of the Bravo reunion previews, I can't think of which housewife, maybe Dina?, said they wanted to call the twin's mother and give her a heads up on the Rino rumor, but that wasn't "allowed".
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I see Cow has been swigging from the Bailey's trough when Dina was on WWHL last night:
http://www.realitytea.com/2014/10/27/jacqueline-laurita-twitter-rant-calls-dina-manzo-liar-blames-family-split/#/slide/1
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I watched a replay today and Dina said, "Just because you write it (Cow), doesn't make it true."
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Okay, so I have been trawling around the web today, and there is this site that I think is run by Jim Marchese or his buddy. Any way, they purport to have a letter written by Bobby to Bravo trying to get hired. It is full of typos or maybe just misspellings. But it is hilarious if it is true.
http://allaboutthetea.com/2014/11/02/bobby-ciasulli-bravo-bio-exposed/
Fun facts -
He is full of sexy.
His family has a 110 ft. yacht that he cruises around the Mediterranean.
He has been nicknamed "Fonz" and "Richard Gear" (sic). Lol.
And in the photo, he has his hair parted in the middle. Did you know that his competitor auto dealerships are "pathetic?"

I think Jim probably wrote his bio and had him submit it and is now exposing it. Jim is notorious for typos on twitter and he uses words like pathetic.
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Here are the gowns for tonight. Melissa's dress should have been lines all the way to the bottom. They are curvaceous these Jersey broads! Dina - oy! And the twin in the middle - please with the boobs.
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Edited by Finestra, Nov 2 2014, 07:20 PM.
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Jac's gearing up!
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Jacqueline Laurita ‏@JacLaurita 2h2 hours ago
Not on reunion but I'll probably tweet during it. “@KathyWalcott: @JacLaurita will you be on the reunion tonight or at all?”


Asslee just tweeted that she won't be live tweeting bc she was disgusted by what she saw there that day when she was "trying" to work. Lol.
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So Jac live tweeted:
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acqueline Laurita @JacLaurita · 10h 10 hours ago
I guess so “@MelanieDepinet: @JacLaurita so Dina feels bad for Lexi but NOT Nicholas?! Terrible!”


Jacqueline Laurita retweeted
LTSRowe @LTSRowe · 10h 10 hours ago
@JacLaurita Absolutely right Jac. She can't even be honest with herself let alone anyone else.


Jacqueline Laurita @JacLaurita · 10h 10 hours ago
We are on a reality tv show, social media is just an extension of that.


Jacqueline Laurita @JacLaurita · 10h 10 hours ago
Dina wouldn't meet with Chris! I tried to get them to meet.


Jacqueline Laurita @JacLaurita · 10h 10 hours ago
I think Dina hurts her parents more by not making amends w/family members,never attending family holidays&making them split their time.


Jacqueline Laurita retweeted
ckbrooks @ckbrooks88 · 10h 10 hours ago
@JacLaurita Man Dina is showing her true colors


Jacqueline Laurita @JacLaurita · 10h 10 hours ago
Lexi is old enough to drive over and talk to her Uncle. (If she wanted to or was allowed) Nick understands more than he can say or express.


Jacqueline Laurita @JacLaurita · 10h 10 hours ago
Maybe Dina wasn't invited2Lauren's engagement party because she told us we were dead to her&that she was dead to us.She got what she wanted.


Jacqueline Laurita @JacLaurita · 10h 10 hours ago
Instead of lying to the public that our family was fine,how about sincerely trying to resolve our issues. Parents would like that more. 😘


Jacqueline Laurita @JacLaurita · 11h 11 hours ago
Seems Dina intentionally left out that we invited Lexi to dinner 2celebrate her Graduation since they didn't want2meet b4hand. NO response!


Jacqueline Laurita @JacLaurita · 11h 11 hours ago
I have no words


Jacqueline Laurita @JacLaurita · 11h 11 hours ago
Dina came on season 4 & opened the door when she came on to film w/T to talk about Caroline. I came in, but I also kind of never left.😘
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Here are some of the responses to Jac. They're funny. The first is Jac's post the rest are responses to it.
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@JacLaurita
I think Dina hurts her parents more by not making amends w/family members,never attending family holidays&making them split their time.


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Jvalentine Monroe ‏@HighClassJazz 10h10 hours ago
@JacLaurita stop talking crap on Twitter ugh u look guilty


TEEZUS ‏@TaraLynnn_x3 10h10 hours ago
@JacLaurita she does not to mend things with you cus of you being an annoying instigator you are.


RHONJ ‏@RealHNJfan 10h10 hours ago
@JacLaurita Then why is her relationship completely fine with her parents?


§amaria Adrielle✌ ‏@smariathornton 10h10 hours ago
@JacLaurita all you do is tweet about Dina constantly, maybe that's why she stays away from you! Let a sister make up with her brother!


Randi Mallett ‏@RandiMallett 10h10 hours ago
@JacLaurita I think that while you have a point... This tweeting nonsense drama just adds to the problems. Be the bigger person and stop.


Jean Chavarria ‏@JeanChavarria 10h10 hours ago
@JacLaurita ugh stop tweeting about your family .


Hope K ‏@OfficialHopeK 10h10 hours ago
@JacLaurita do you think they enjoy having a daughter in law who bashes their daughter on tv and social media?


deb bart ‏@debbart2 10h10 hours ago
@JacLaurita we need to get Jacqueline off Twitter. It's not a good look. @Andy if Jacqueline come back I'm done watching

Edited by Finestra, Nov 3 2014, 09:29 AM.
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She really is a crazy person. Do you think Chris tries to stop her from tweeting?
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I don't think he wants to get involved with her crazy. I feel like he is fine with it so long as she doesn't bother him. He's probably thrilled she's talking shit on twitter as opposed to him having to listen to it.
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