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Rh Of New York Media; Recaps, Gossip, Blogs
Topic Started: Jan 17 2012, 08:51 PM (58,596 Views)
Mariah
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Ask Bravo. They hired her. Will people watch her? We shall see. As for the way she capitalized on the exposure to make money, she did, and she was relentless at it, throwing things at the wall until something stuck, then riding those puppies to best selling books, the Skinny Girl deal, and her own shows. Even Andy admitted Bravo missed the boat with cashing in on Bethenny's profits, and she taught them a lesson. Now, poor other housewives have to give Bravo a cut of things they make, books they sell, etc.

Lots of people want fame, even more people want money. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. I tend to think it's more about the money with Bethenny, but her contract with Beam requires her to be in public a lot. I think she'd love to be huge (like a Martha Stewart or Oprah) but it just feels like that would be more for the security/riches/fuck you money than notoriety. Will she let that dream go with the talk show flop? Maybe, but Bethenny just doesn't strike me as the type to give up on dreams, maybe to switch them to something else though.

I do wonder who keeps planting the same old story though, that is more interesting than the story to me.
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Can you post a link to some if the articles regarding Bethenny not giving Bravo a cut. That would be interesting to read.

Regarding the "nothing" articles about Bethenny at radar and realitytea - my guess is that Bethenny plants them to keep her name in the press.
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It was so long ago andme, Bravo changed it right away, but it was too late for Bethenny's contract. I think Teresa Guidice was the first one who suffered under the new terms, she had to give them cuts of her bestselling book.

I'll try google.

ETA, there is just too much out there with those names! I tried a time search, but I'm not sure when Andy said it. It seems like it was in an interview, maybe around the time Teresa's first book was published. Andy says something like "we missed the boat with Bethenny, but we've corrected it now" and that they just didn't consider that something like Beam or the books would happen. Some fairly serious interview as I recall, well, as serious as Andy and Bravo can be, but it wasn't a Bravo interview.

Found this, but it's only in the comments: http://tamaratattles.com/2014/10/20/bethenny-frankel-admits-she-is-returning-to-rhony/

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After Bethenny sold her company for over a hundred million dollars, reality TV shows, especially Bravo, started putting in the contracts that the network gets a cut of any profits, I think it’s 10%, for any business ventures pushed on the show.That means the wine clubs, the vodka, whatever, the network gets a cut. For instance Bravo would have gotten $10 million when Bethenny sold the Skinnygirl brand but instead they got zilch. They weren’t about to have that happen ever again, hence the Bethenny clause named for Bethenny Frankel. Bethenny talked about it once on her talk show.

My guess is that she insisted there be no Bethenny clause in her contract if she came back to RHONY. That kids, is irony.

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​I believe that Bethenny did not have to share her brand with Bravo. I believe that it was her success that lead to the “Bethenny clause” in all future contracts. Bravo now gets a cut of all books, liquors, appearance fees, pretty much anything they do.

This is not uncommon. When I woked for the University of Georgia there was a similar clause in my contract. It was mainly for intellectual properties and inventions.


At least I have a place to start googling! It WAS called "The Bethenny Clause" when added to all the other housewife contracts, at least that was the slang for it. Also a time frame, before 2011 when this post was made.

Another mention here:
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She told Andy she probably won't be moving to California, although she could get a second home there. She said she has projects in New York. I still say she is going to have a talk show.

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Andy acted proud as a peacock about Bethenny but it's funny because I read an article that said Bravo is kicking themselves that they didn't get a cut of Bethenny's money. I say they make enough as it is. They certainly don't pay these people enough to bring cameras into their homes. The Jersey Shore clowns get more per episode.


Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/tv/1001366-bethenny-ever-after-happened-money-contract-58.html#ixzz3OvKLte64
Edited by Mariah, Jan 15 2015, 04:25 PM.
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Slight mention:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bethenny-frankel-skinnygirl-sale-181124

(still looking for the Andy quote)
Another mention: https://zernerlaw.wordpress.com/2011/07/05/5-horrible-provisions-you-might-find-in-a-reality-show-contract/

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5. 10% of Future Earnings

After Bethany Frankel parleyed her turn on Real Housewives of New York into a $120 million dollar sale of her Skinnygirl cocktail line, the producers of some of these shows said, “I want a piece of that.” So now some reality shows include what I will call the Bethany Clause, which says that the producer is entitled to 10% of all future earnings you make from outside businesses (not acting gigs) for a certain period of time after the show airs. That’s right, despite the fact that the producers didn’t really pay you anything to be on the show, and have already obtained the right to exploit your life any way they want to, now they want 10% of your future earnings. Are you outraged yet? You should be.


I want to find Andy saying it! I remember seeing it, but I can't find it. Meanwhile, another article that talks a bit about it. I remember the news coming out around the time Teresa's first book hit big. (I think.)

I find it a lot in comments of various articles and blogs, but can't find the actual quote, because they are 2764 zillion things about Bethenny on the web. Ha.

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:D Thanks.
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I wonder if they get a cut of LVP Sangria! Do you think they have to share in the losses - like Kathy's Cannolis? Lol.

I remember that too - that Andy mentioned something about missing out on Bethenny. I can see Bethenny being all "I am not playing this manufactured stuff." She's smart like that. Hopefully NY will be better because of it. I think Ramona is a big leak. She loves talking. Or Sonja. The others don't seem to care too much about tabloids.
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The "Bethany clause," shouldn't it be the "Brittany clause?"

When Kelly said they were all playing parts, everyone made fun of her, called her crazy. So now it seems Bethenny is saying she won't play a part? Hmmmmmmm.

I doubt she'll add much to the show this year or the ratings. The people I seem to like, Heather, Kristen and Carole, are not very popular with the audience. We'll see Ramona with her new boobs pretending to have fun dating up a storm. Sonja will be on Millionaire Matchmaker, Lulu, who knows? New York may be done for.

Edited by weaver, Jan 15 2015, 06:49 PM.
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The first I remember hearing about it was when Teresa's book hit the best seller list. Someone pointing out that after Bravo, the publishers, and the creditors took their cuts, she'd have nothing from it.

No way would Bethenny agree to come back unless she has "The Bethenny Clause" removed from her contract though. ;)

I thought of that too weaver, Bethenny and Nutso basically (REPORTEDLY) saying something similar, but there is no proof Bethenny said any of it (so far) just "rumors" from an anonymous source who obviously hates Bethenny.
Edited by Mariah, Jan 15 2015, 06:47 PM.
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Jill's minions are undoubtedly planting stories while Jill herself is enjoying Argentina on the way to Antarctica.
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Oh, I'm sure she can tweet from anywhere. ;)

I could be her though, or several other people.
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Honestly bravo would be stupid not to take money they are giving them free advertising. One big infomercial I hate that part of the shows
Edited by cccharley, Jan 15 2015, 07:35 PM.
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I agree. Yeah, since Bravo has started taking a cut, the never ending advertising has really increased. It's boring. Bethenny is the Queen of that (and least $$$ wise) so I'm kind of dreading her promotions on the show. Maybe Bravo will limit that, since she probably won't have to give them a dime? We can hope.

I wonder if it could be Sonja? She and her insane attempts at 'Branding' (I seriously hate that term) and "products" all failing to get off the ground might cause some jealousy at B's proficiency at it all.

I bet Heather and Carole don't have to give Bravo a cut either, both had pre-existing projects/books/products, and neither seem likely to cave on contracts, especially Carole, who was a "get" for Bravo. I'd love to know! I wish Simon was still on the show, or even in NY, we might find out then! Ha.
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If Andy is paying Bethenny (Brittany!) a million a year and allowing her her completely free advertising, he's a crappy businessman.
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Mariah, did you check the NYT interview that Andy gave? It might be there.
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Don't forget she did not receive $120 million. It could have worked out to that but sales with beam have been on the decline. That is why she would never confirm it. Oh I guess is should out this on Bethennyw thr ad but I saw the tmz about the pot and they called her a fool and ther is no such thing as pot with no munchies. It's the THC that gives you the munchies. THere is even a pill by prescription for cancer patients to get them to eat. I have a few here for years but never tried them
Edited by cccharley, Jan 16 2015, 09:16 AM.
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