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| IcyAll | Jun 14 2015, 04:05 AM Post #3031 |
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I'm always amazed that lawyers will break the law for clients. If some other attorney notarized Bethenny's signature without seeing her sign it in front of him/her, they broke the law. If they're saying it's all Carol Hoppy, then she broke the law -- and as we've noted, why wouldn't she trust her son? Willy -- Bethenny bought the apartment without Jason, though they were married. It was her money for half and her loan for the other half. Without a perfectly executed trust, he can't own it if the prenup says he can't. I understand all this trust was necessary for was to backdoor him into assets that he was denied via the prenup. Come to think of it, I can see him suggesting the trust as a "prove you love and trust me since I conceded to sign the prenup; do this trust and let me handle the apartment management, it'll also protect your privacy" … |
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| weaver | Jun 14 2015, 09:12 AM Post #3032 |
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Oh, yeah, there is the new Bamboo Birkin, a very hard color to get. Very much in demand, and priced accordingly. I personally think Birkins are so 2009. |
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| Finestra | Jun 14 2015, 09:33 AM Post #3033 |
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Bethenny said she signed the signature page trust papers but never read it. Then she said that she doesn't know if that is her signature. It's right there in the papers Mariah quotes - so right there she contradicts herself. If I were the judge I would force the two of them to live together in the apartment until one kills the other and then throw that one in jail. Carole putting on her actual seal was notifying them that she was a PA notary. Did she violate notary rules?, sure. And it is a reason to invalidate it. But at the time they did it, most likely it was done for convenience, "Just sign it and I'll have my mother notarize it when I see her." They were not in a bad place at the time. I don't see Jason as some legal mastermind plotting his divorce when he created the trust. This is the work of his divorce lawyer using hindsight to try to get his hands on an apartment that Jason most likely has no legal right to by claiming that the trust made the apt a marital asset. This is divorce court war with high paid lawyers on both their sides. He invalidated the trust, so that is going to affect the tax status of that apt. I bet the whole trust was created for tax purposes, not "privacy" purposes. Taxes were paid as business expenses "pre tax" I bet - now that it is out of trust, I wonder if she is going to have to go back, draw income, pay at least 40% income tax (NYC income tax is a bitch) and then pay taxes on it. I wonder if the apartment was excluded specifically under the prenup? Clearly it was bought with SKG money. When they amend the deed, will Bethenny's name be on it by itself? Will it be SKG Inc or whatever? Will it be Julie? The Glammy? I think the Jim Beam/SKG liquor money was excluded under the prenup, but I wonder if all the other ventures of SKG were excluded or if Jason is entitled to any of them. Those forensic accts. are certainly spending a lot of time tracing something. |
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| Finestra | Jun 14 2015, 09:34 AM Post #3034 |
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So Kardashian, Lohan and Paris Hilton. Everyone who carries one now has their Valtrex inside. |
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| weaver | Jun 14 2015, 11:02 AM Post #3035 |
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Haha, yeah when all of the K's have all the colors and sizes , you know you are. carrying the wrong handbag. |
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| weaver | Jun 14 2015, 11:06 AM Post #3036 |
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I bet you are right Fin. The Privacy reason was a joke, because people found the records in 5 minutes. They are all on line. The name of the LLC was published here there and everywhere. Plus the paps were planted outside ,plus Jay and Bey live there, so it isn't secret. Evading taxes is probably the real reason. Hah, hope she gets stuck with back taxes. |
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| WillyWonka | Jun 14 2015, 11:32 AM Post #3037 |
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Yeah, now that I think about it, the privacy thing is not believable at all. They filmed that apartment as part of their reality tv show for crying out loud. It makes no sense that they would buy that apartment in an assistant's name/trust. Either it was their personal home, in which case it would be in the name of Bethenny alone or Bethenny and Jason as spouses or it would be in the name of her SG corporation if it was a business purchase. She did keep her office in there so that would have made way more sense, buy it in the corporation's name and then they either just live there or they pay the corporation some kind of monthly rent. I'm sure the atty's know how work all of that out. It most likely was done this way to evade taxes and Bethy was well aware of what was going on there. |
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| andme | Jun 14 2015, 12:42 PM Post #3038 |
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We signed soccer club papers (along with 400 other people) yesterday. They collected all the papers and we're going to have someone notarize them later. Damn you, Mrs Hoppy! Your evil deeds are spreading to Michigan! |
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| weaver | Jun 14 2015, 01:01 PM Post #3039 |
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i just did an experiment. I found her new apt in 5 minutes. This LLC is called Beyond Hudson (probably an allusion to the fact that her old apt is on Hudson St). She purchased in September 2014 for 4.2 mil. She's within shouting distance of Kelly. |
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| cccharley | Jun 14 2015, 01:35 PM Post #3040 |
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Priavacy is a joke. It was Lawyer ploy. Funny to think that Jason was a criminal mastermind. Remember she did not have these funds when they married. She decided not to use birth control. They both did the deed. She got Pregnant and told the entire world that she was in love and so Happy. If she were to go back on those statements her reputation will be even ore muddied Both of them said signatures were wrong. Maybe they both wanted a short cut and someone signed for them. It's odd for Jason to say it as well that's where I got really confused. Whatever. I'd love her to get hit with tax evasion. Then she'll sue her lawyers and accountants. If she wanted privacy she would have offered him a settlement ages ago and none of his would have been in the papers. Whole thing doesn't make sense to me Hey sometimes I wonder about that miscarriage she had. It was so appropriate outed in TV by her. She knows how to cry in cue. Her acting lessons came in handy I still wonder if it was real. And the I wonder what would have happened if she had a second baby. Too bad medical files are private. One of the few things for a REALITY TV STAR. PRIVACY MY ASS Edited by cccharley, Jun 14 2015, 01:48 PM.
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| Mariah | Jun 14 2015, 02:25 PM Post #3041 |
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Jason knows real estate though, after all, that's his supposed "job" along with his former pharma rep job. She's saying she never saw the agreement, not that she simply didn't bother to read it. She says IF that is her signature (which she doesn't know) then that was the only page she was given to sign. Obviously fraud was committed and the date that it happened makes me think Jason was well aware of what he was doing, and his mother's involvement is obvious fraud. The judge heard it all, and this judge hasn't been exactly friendly to Bethenny, so if he decided to throw it out, he has good reasons and not just the snippets we get from RoL. Jason's "did not dispute" sounds like covering HIS and his MOMMY's ass to me, very specific wording there, which sounds like lawyer speak for "please don't prosecute us, and we will quit wasting the court's time with our sneaky as hell claims." I hate all of those ridiculously expensive purses, ditto the price of the shoes rich people wear that would feed a family of four for a week. Priorities are really very screwed up in my opinion when that crap is considered "cool" instead of a horrible and nearly obscene. If I saw someone carrying a purse that costs $20,000 I would not envy them, I would simply think they are selfish fools, duped by "fashion" into wasting money. They all make me sick. |
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| WillyWonka | Jun 14 2015, 03:37 PM Post #3042 |
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Maybe they do it differently in rich people land but when we refinanced our mortgage it was with a bank that doesn't have any actual branches in our city at all. They sent a notary out to the house and he sat at our dining room table and went through all of the pages and had us initial and sign all over them, which he then notarized. I just find it so hard to believe that the bank that gave her the mortgage just sent paperwork and said return it to us signed. |
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| Mariah | Jun 14 2015, 04:03 PM Post #3043 |
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Whatever it was, the judge didn't like it, or consider it legal. |
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| cccharley | Jun 14 2015, 05:06 PM Post #3044 |
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Just because bethenny says something doesn't mean it's true. Sorry but I do not think Jason's mother was complicit in fraud. if so then they would be arrested. Edited by cccharley, Jun 14 2015, 05:10 PM.
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| Mariah | Jun 14 2015, 05:19 PM Post #3045 |
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The JUDGE said it though ccc. It's beyond "he said, she said" now. What's more? Jason is not denying it. I think his mother and Jason could both be charged with a crime, which is why his side keeps not contesting it, basically conceding that they both lied. If they don't continue to try to bilk her it won't be a possibly more serious crime. Jason's side is no longer saying those documents were legal, or that Bethenny knew what he was up to. I really want to know if Jason duped his own mother, which I would believe before I'd believe she and Jason colluded to trick Bethenny. |
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