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Rh Of New York Media; Recaps, Gossip, Blogs
Topic Started: Jan 17 2012, 08:51 PM (58,574 Views)
cccharley
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who leaked the documents and only parts of them? Isn't that illegal
Edited by cccharley, Jun 14 2015, 05:52 PM.
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andme
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I think Jill Zarin is involved.
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Finestra
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There is a gag order on the divorce. I would love to hear Jason's side of this whole trust thing. Since the new apt. is held by an llc, then clearly that is Bethenny's preferred way of owning property, so there has to be a financial benefit to doing it.

I still don't think Jason is sophisticated enough to figure this out when they were purchasing the apt in anticipation of divorce. He seems more of the low-level landlord type.
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cccharley
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It's and I think it was most likely a lawyer who said just have the papers signed by whomever. Unless the complete
Document is released I can't really make a decision. I also don't really understand. It's obvious from this release it was from bethenny. Honestly I don't care but you know. Her name stays in the
Papers. I think both of them should stop
Doing it for Bryns sake
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That's the thing though, ccc, the decision isn't up to us, it's up to the judge who has reviewed everything and already decided and ruled on it. Jason's lawyers did not deny any of this, quite specifically "did not contest" those facts.

Fin, looks like Jason isn't talking, or he and is mother could be up on charges. As for "not smart enough?" He had lawyers to tell him how to ensure his future money and get around the prenup. The trouble is, they weren't quite good enough to hide the evidence, and Bethenny's were good enough to discover and prove the deception. Maybe it was just a college buddy of his, who knows? One thing seems quite clear though, those documents were to subvert the prenup, and the judge agrees they are not legal.

"Hey Jason, just get your mother to notarize the signatures, she's a notary, right? She'd do it for you!"

LOL andme! I needed that laugh right now, I'm in house-cleaning hell right now.
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Finestra
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Mariah these are his divorce lawyers not him, after the marriage fell apart - they specialize in getting around prenups. I am talking about drafting up trust agreements. I don't think Jason drafted the trust agreement. I don't think Bethenny would've trusted him to do anything that had to do with her business.

I personally believe that all that talk about him coming and helping her negotiate on BEA was just talk for the show. But it helped sell her image to the public. There is no way in hell IMO that Bethenny was relying on Jason to help her negotiate things or help her figure out marketing strategy. She's very singleminded and determined and focused on SKG. It was her baby and IRL, I don't think she was letting him play a role in that. And for that reason, I think she is fighting IRL giving him any $ in the divorce. (He is probably saying, "hey I helped her sell an image on tv, you saw her say how instrumental I was on tv blah blah blah.")
Edited by Finestra, Jun 14 2015, 09:36 PM.
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I don't think Jason drafted it either, but I DO think he arranged for it, even if it was just to find out ways to get around the pre nup.

Look at the dates! Or do you think everyone involved forged those too? If so, his mother not only lied, she wrote a date about two years earlier than the real date.
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All of this "Jason helped Bethenny's image" is crap. When? For a par-second? Two seasons of the show -- she came in with a reputation, both loved and hated by many and left the same. He didn't help her other than on RHONY to have a storyline. He was one of many on her own reality show, sometimes not even appearing on an episode. I saw Gina and Julie more than Jason! He never affected how I regard Bethenny. He is a storyline in her life, not a partner, not an equal, not a spin-off.

If he had personality, say he was another Desi Arnez who could sing or something entertaining, then maybe he could claim credit. But he barely talked at times and never even admitted what he did for work! Did we ever meet a coworker or hear about his job or office? We know nothing about that! Just some vague "pharmaceutical rep" and "real estate in the city" chat.

Ba-Loney.

I also recall that Jason got investors for his divorce. He's got someone else paying for his lawyers.
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Jun 15 2015, 01:54 AM
All of this "Jason helped Bethenny's image" is crap. When? For a par-second? Two seasons of the show -- she came in with a reputation, both loved and hated by many and left the same. He didn't help her other than on RHONY to have a storyline. He was one of many on her own reality show, sometimes not even appearing on an episode. I saw Gina and Julie more than Jason! He never affected how I regard Bethenny. He is a storyline in her life, not a partner, not an equal, not a spin-off.

If he had personality, say he was another Desi Arnez who could sing or something entertaining, then maybe he could claim credit. But he barely talked at times and never even admitted what he did for work! Did we ever meet a coworker or hear about his job or office? We know nothing about that! Just some vague "pharmaceutical rep" and "real estate in the city" chat.

Ba-Loney.

I also recall that Jason got investors for his divorce. He's got someone else paying for his lawyers.
Icy, that's why I think that Jason wasn't as involved in the whole set up of the trust as we are led to believe. Bethenny was in control of her show and her life. She wasn't letting Jason in. The whole storyline of him getting involved, him quitting his job, helping her solve some distribution problem was all a storyline for the show, not for real life. I think he is using that to try to show he was more involved. Like I said, I don't know what was included in the prenup and what was excluded.

I think her lawyers found a way around the trust because Carole notarized it for them improperly. Maybe it was last minute, who knows. She was very busy during BEA. It would make sense that Bethenny would want the home to go to Jason as trustee to take care of Bryn in the event that she died. Am I wrong about the purpose of the trust? It was to make sure that Bryn could stay in her homestead. The fake name and all that was for privacy. The Trust could have been named the Bethenny Frankel trust.
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Carol, as a notary, is responsible to know the rules -- they sign in front of you. I feel sorry for her, but she is an adult. Actually, I feel like she made Jason who he is, so she bears responsibility.

And I didn't mean that Bethenny and Jason didn't have a real relationship where he did things for her, I'm saying giving him credit for helping her image or Skinnygirl's sales or success is wrong.
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http://www.people.com/article/Bethenny-Frankel-Marriage-Decision-Made-Fear

Andy made her do it. Will she say anything to get publicity?

#pasii That means #putasockinit
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Finestra
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They have a gag order right? She should gag it. You love Bryn more than you hate Jason. I think her parents made her feel disposable and that there is no value in relationships. That's the way she treats other people/relationships. When she has no use for them, she moves on. Ramona said it best. She has no real girlfriends except the chick in witness relocation in Fl. It's very sad. Hanging with people like Andy C and Carole can't be good for anyone. Sitting around drinking, not eating and snarking on people all day isn't good for the soul. (Ha! Freshsnarkdaily!)

You know Bryn is going to grow into a horrible teenager one day. They all do become pretty horrible one day for a few years - our sweet precious little girls. I hope it doesn't devastate Bethenny, and I hope she realizes it's just a phase.
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She's such a liar It never ends. Her show started and her marriage imploded before tori and deans. Ugh. What's with the left cheek ball? Freak

I love reading the comments
Edited by cccharley, Jun 16 2015, 12:59 PM.
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Always the blame on someone else. She's so full of shit. Pardon my french!
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Mario is selling.

http://streeteasy.com/building/richmond-condominium/16e
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