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Rh Of New York Media; Recaps, Gossip, Blogs
Topic Started: Jan 17 2012, 08:51 PM (58,741 Views)
andme
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Well, I think there was plenty of blame to go around in the blondes vs brunettes debacle.
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My niece was editor of the Washington Post book review and you would not believe the pressure she received from editors, publishers, authors, etc to include their books in the review section (when it existed). That's the way business runs. Hollywood agents call and pressure for auditions, casting, etc.

Andy didn't succumb to any pressure, he is able to block her tweets and calls. He is a big player; she is a relative nobody. She is coming on because she brings in viewers.
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Didn't Andy write in his memoir about Jill and how she was relentless in her self promotion? I know I read it somewhere. She was upset because Giggy got more/better press, stalking Andy, etc. Andy IS a big player, he is THE thing right now, showing up on so many shows. Jill blew it all by her little self. And I said it over at RHoNY, and I'll say it here: While I don't condone bullying of ANY kind, there was probably a reason Jill was razzed when she was a kid.
I never minded Jill on the show; she was good to snark on. I would love to see her with Carole ;)
Edited by discomom, Oct 13 2012, 09:51 AM.
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I must say the wedding scene was dire but it shouldn't have been filmed. I always wondered what the others say when then aren't with a mic. They did admit that most of them said not to film with others so she was not alone in that genre. They all suck.
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cccharley
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Whom of the Ho's doesn't self promote? B was the queen of it. Maybe Jill had no finesse at doing it but almost all of them did. They just weren't so blatent. I have to say even if you dislike her I don't get the hate. She was mean but she in no way was evil in my eyes. I think someone like Taylor Armstrong is evil. There is a difference in the levels of narcissism and I don't think Jill is a sociopath but I think Taylor is. Jill was just green with envy and jealous. I found it absurd that Lynn named that blog what it was. To me that was unfortunate and the pile on as well. Since these people put themselves in the public eye they are open to it. And so it was. She raised a lovely daughter - I really liked Alison. I actually think she is less affected than Ramona's daughter. I think she will actually be pretty stuck up no matter how well grounded she appears.
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That was not filmed, CCC, it was only a sound byte that was put over images. She forgot the mic was on, or maybe she didn't think they would use something if she wasn't being filmed. In any case, she said it -- to people. She wasn't murmuring to herself. So it's out there and she intended to say it. She has to own it.

Just as she has to own all her other behavior. I understand the instinct to forgive, but life is short and I do not feel the need to ever see Jill Zarin on a HW show. There are plenty of interesting women in NYC -- I don't need Jill or Aviva (or Holla) to come back.
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I also found it mean and nasty. Don't think I didn't. It was incredibly nasty. I was just saying that they all do it. She isn't the only one and she's been singled out. She keeps fighting though. If that were me I'd be in hiding.
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I do agree with you, ccc that Ally seems to be a lovely young lady. To me, Jill isn't evil, and she is probably a good friend to those who can stand to be around her. Taylor Armstrong... yes, she is evil. And maybe Tamra Barney is borderline evil.
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This was a comment on Two P -
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As Heather said in one of the earlier episodes, "Let's give it up for Harry Dubin!" Aviva explained on the reunion that Bethenny floated her name to TPTB. What Aviva didn't detail, however, was that Bethenny let them know that Harry had slept with two of the housewives: Sonja and LuAnn. I'm sure that's what made them go after casting Aviva; they figured there was built in drama before Aviva even started taping.


I didn't know that that was the reason they probably cast her. Don't know if it's been discussed here.

I kind of hope they don't bring back Carole. She's too much of a peacekeeper though she has been mean in her talking heads. Jill's not coming back, IMO. Bravo has been there, done that with her and she was a pain in the ass to them. It's kind of funny that she's pushing for it, she really doesn't know when to shut up.
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Nope Jill has a big mouth. Apparently Bethenny did give Aviva's name not once but twice. So was that a good thing or did she do it the first time to have a go at her old friend who she used don't forget - Jill? She came out this year and said see I told you she'd be great. Well I don't find Aviva great. I find her creepy and although she brings on the drama it's not the good kind.

I like Carole and hope she comes back.

I'd like Harry Dubin to be the next ho wife. maybe they should do the Real Husbands of NYC. I think I'd rather watch that these days. I'm getting sick of the ladies - oh did I say lady - I meant bitches.
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Jill (Susan Saunders) also left horrible reviews on Bethenny's book, and on Silex's book. Amazon reviewed the evidence and removed Jill's (Susan's) reviews and also several more from obvious cronies of Jill's including her sister and several others. Most of the positive reviews of her sickening book were posted by "first time reviewers" and they would have stayed up, except they ALSO went over to Bethenny's books and Silex's and trashed them.

Had Jill just admitted her bullshit, it would have ended. Same thing with her bullshit on the show. She doesn't know when to stop, and I think she is a sick, vindictive, tasteless, trashy bitch with serious issues and an overblown sense of her appeal and importance. She was the most hated housewife for a reason, and the juvenile antics during her last two seasons were finally enough for Bravo to say "go the hell away."

She DID buy twitter followers in her desperate attempt to get back on TV. Pathetic.

Will the trainwreck appeal gather viewers to her WWHL appearance. OF COURSE. Hell, Bravo is promoting the shit out of it, and probably airing it the night of the NY reunion to get a few more viewers for that show. Does that mean very many people want her back on TV regularly? No. It only means that, like a trainwreck, you may want to see it momentarily, or for a 1/2 hour, but you don't want to look at that shit day after day.

She wants a sit-com? Seriously?
Edited by Mariah, Oct 13 2012, 04:25 PM.
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I hope Heather and Carole stay. Dump Ramona. She's offering nothing but fake drama at this point.

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http://www.wetpaint.com/real-housewives-of-new-york/articles/aviva-drescher-im-feeling-pretty-warm-and-fuzzy-towards-sonja-right-now-exclusive

Oh Aviva, learn from Jill and don't lie and make things worse. She says she doesn't read the "blogs" or comments, so that didn't influence her apology. In her Bravo blog she says she reads all the comments, and I'm pretty sure she even says that she's apologizing after reading all the comments, or words to that effect.


edited to try to fix link
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What a bullshit interview. In one response, I think she says "wonderful" 10 times.
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I'm hoping she was misquoted a bit. I've been slightly impressed by her owning her crap up until this one.

We know that she read the Bravo blog comments and changed up her approach because of those. Maybe she was trying to say she didn't read other comments or blogs, which MAY be true.

Hard to say, but I know I've had comments edited in newspapers to imply the opposite of what I was really saying, so I'll give her a slight benefit of a doubt there. Slight.
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