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Gone, But They Still Won't Shut Up; Axed Cast - Silex, JillZ, KKB, BarS, etc
Topic Started: Jan 29 2012, 04:40 PM (34,200 Views)
IcyAll
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She's the gift you wish you could regift, but can't think of anyone you hate that much.
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Oct 20 2012, 09:34 AM
Jill is a gift to Andy and the HWs. He is just using her and her delusion to get ratings of all sorts. She is the gift that keeps giving.
So true. Andy is alot of things but he's not stupid. And Jill has become even less self aware than ever! Her calling for the firing of Heather had to bring a good laugh to Andy's office. Hey, she's even advocating for Silex now! Poor Silex.
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She's the gift you wish you could regift, but can't think of anyone you hate that much.

Lol Icy. I know she's probably good reality TV but after last season's reunion and all the stuff she's done since getting the ax I really can't with her. Unlike Ramonja or The Countless I don't enjoy anything about watching and especially listening to Jill Zarin.
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I have a bad feeling that Andy will bring her back. Did she bring the ratings for WWHL? If so, I think that's all Andy Bravo cares about. People watched.

Doesn't matter if they're saying they'll stop watching if he brings her back. Cuz Andy knows we're lying. LOL.

If there's one thing I know - people LOVE to watch/talk about the characters they can't stand the most. Anybody care to explain that phenomenon?? Andme? :P
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There were a lot of stories out before she was fired, and after, that she was a complete pain in the ass to Andy and to the producers, calling them 20 times a day, complaining, acting like a Diva. I honestly don't think they want to deal with her off screen.

IF they bring her back, and she continues the way she is and was? I am so done with RHNY. She seems to have learned nothing, and the only way I'd be at all interested in watching her again is if she bought a vowel. It doesn't seem that she has, and her "Drama" is so junior high school that it's just annoying rather than interesting to watch.
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I think Jill will be totally out of her league if she comes back. Connectah? Like Carole or Aviva or Heather need a connector? We all saw what happened to Luann this year, Jill would be lost, lost I tell ya. She would be so outclassed - mostly in the brains department, but also in the sophistication that the newbies have. Aviva has her issues and is likely the one to give Jill an ear, but I think Aviva will view Jill as crass and obnoxious after awhile. Now that I think about it, it might be Jill's comeuppance played out on screen if she comes back and is shown to be irrelevant.
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Oh, rye, absolutely! It's no fun snarking on someone you like.

Lucky for me, I don't like many of them.

Please, Andy! Keep Sonja. I have at least another season's worth of toaster oven snark.


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Oct 20 2012, 09:48 PM
Now that I think about it, it might be Jill's comeuppance played out on screen if she comes back and is shown to be irrelevant.
But that could be what Andy Bravo is thinking. Somewhere I read that the writers and producers have an idea of which way they want the story to go at the start of the season. It's possible they were using Jill's appearance on WWHL to test if viewers are still willing to watch her. They could mold the story for her comeuppance if that's what they want or if that's what they think we want.

Or...and this would be interesting to me....they could redeem her. Because they can. Because they're the greatest manipulators that ever manipulated. Just think of the power trip those evil geniuses would be on if they could put Jill back in good favor with the masses? The only bigger coup is if we're all feeling sorry for Taylor by the end of next BH season.

As far as Bravo not wanting to deal with Jill's B.S. - A few paragraphs in her contract stating she's not allowed to grace Andy's doorstep, or that she's not allowed to tweet about the show, or whatev...you get my drift. Jill wants back on so bad she'd agree to anything. Bravo holds all the cards.
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Bravo holds all the cards.

But that's the thing, if Andy does have her back then she will realize that all her hounding paid off. All the tweets and facebooks. Making public demands to fire the new girls [which I agree have been a breath of fresh air] etc. etc. I guess I'm hoping you are wrong rye.

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I think Jill will be totally out of her league if she comes back. Connectah? Like Carole or Aviva or Heather need a connector? We all saw what happened to Luann this year, Jill would be lost, lost I tell ya. She would be so outclassed - mostly in the brains department, but also in the sophistication that the newbies have.

Exactly. The new girls mix really well with the old cast. And Lulu sometimes reminds me of the soap characters that after 15 years are now the Aunt Phoebes even though she is around the same age as the others. Necessary even if dated. It's a good mix now.

This show doesn't need someone like Jill and her little dog anymore. Besides, I really hate her Team Jill shit. Notice this year the balance shifted back and forth but there was really never a Team This or That, despite Lulu trying to create one in the beginning.
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Bravo holds all the cards.

But that's the thing, if Andy does have her back then she will realize that all her hounding paid off. All the tweets and facebooks. Making public demands to fire the new girls [which I agree have been a breath of fresh air] etc. etc. I guess I'm hoping you are wrong rye.

I'm hoping so, too.

But why did Andy invite her to WWHL? Wasn't that a reward for her bad behavior? I think he's going to bring her back. But he'll keep her on a very short leash.

He's crafty. I still wonder what he gained by allowing some of the stuff she said on WWHL to remain, even when he could have edited it. Something's up.

I smell a rat in NYC!
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But why did Andy invite her to WWHL?

Oh good point. That was rewarding her hounding of him. Well, if he does invite her back I just hope she hounds him twice as hard about all kinds of things. He will deserve it.
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I think he brought her back PARTIALLY to up the ratings for the RHNY reunion. They promoted the hell out of that WWHL and they never do that with other guests, certainly not for weeks ahead of time.

Even people who can't stand Jill watched that, because 1/2 hour of Jill is doable, and many, ahem, including moi wanted to see if she had grown up at all. That doesn't mean we want her back every week, with her Team bullshit and phoniness.

Aren't all the ratings except NJ and ATL falling? I think people are just on overload with these shows. NJ and ATL are the trashiest and still pulling in the best ratings though, aren't they?
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Maybe it was a warning -- across the board -- to other housewives. A kind of "see what could happen to you?"
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If they did bring her back I think Aviva would be her ally. She would remain friends with Lulu most likely even though she said something not so nice about her. They all do that. I wouldn't care. I doubt it will happen. She did look great. Can someone pay for my liquid facelift?
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Rye there is a rat in NYC, and it is Andy. Many thought it was Carole, but she was just an underling rat. Andy is the rat king. He needs the giant head from Nutcracker.
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He could bring on Jill to humiliate her. I wouldn't mind it.

Part of me wonders if he wants her on to go after Ramona. I think the plan for this season was to get Ramona - starting with the non-invite to London. But Aviva's mental instability and George's perversion threw a monkey wrench into Bravo's plan, and Ramona once again is sitting on the reunion couch airing her cooch and fluffing her chiffon. If they bring Jill on to egg on the hate of Aviva, it might drive Ramona off the rails. The only problem with that plan is that I don't see Heather, and even Carole openly, joining in. And Sonja would of course side with Ramona.
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The funny thing is, I think it would take a LOT to drive Ramona off the rails. She's older, she's smarter than she seems, and in spite of all of that hyper, I have a feeling she'd be solid as a rock and able to turn almost any situation around somehow. She's been around the block here, and there is just something in her that tells me, appearances to the contrary, she could outfox them.
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