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This week I have mostly been playing
Topic Started: Apr 2 2006, 06:11 PM (37,823 Views)
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I'm torn about that then.....even for 8 months it ain't that great. Just a few new skins on buildings and the aforementioned zombies....and actually a coupla things removed like the transforming vehicles as you upgrade....but 8 months IS fuck all I guess.

Either way, as a gamer who loved the first one, you're being short-changed.

Edited by Juz, Jul 16 2010, 07:14 AM.
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To be fair it is why I have held off on it. I rarely buy full price games these days, and can wait for this to fall in price. The sting in the tail will be, that I had the most fun from the first playing in co-op with a mate of mine. Nothing quite beats kicking someone off the top of a tall building just as they reach the summit :D

But once I get this game at a knockdown price, new games will be out and people will have moved on. So I'm a bit torn really. If I wait too long, I'll miss out on experiencing it in the best way.
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Bon and I had a bit of a co-op session yesterday and I have to say I'm underwhelmed, and I really wanted to enjoy this. It doesn't feel like a sequel at all-things have been tweaked a little bit but nothing's been improved or fixed. It's the same engine, same city, same crappy targeting system, same orbs and challenges, same twitchy handling and LESS missions-feels more like a long string of sub-missions than Borderlands!

I'll keep plugging away to see how it gets at later levels but co-op didn't really improve things much and at the moment it's not dragging me away from other games...
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Bon and I had a bit of a co-op session yesterday and I have to say I'm underwhelmed, and I really wanted to enjoy this. It doesn't feel like a sequel at all-things have been tweaked a little bit but nothing's been improved or fixed. It's the same engine, same city, same crappy targeting system, same orbs and challenges, same twitchy handling and LESS missions-feels more like a long string of sub-missions than Borderlands!

I'll keep plugging away to see how it gets at later levels but co-op didn't really improve things much and at the moment it's not dragging me away from other games...
It doesn't improve; the enemies just get bigger and more annoying.....
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Just about everything about C2 seems broken to me. :-/ The way you jump around like a spaz collecting coins (uh no, they're "orbs" aren't they) like some kind of armoured Mario, hoping against hope your Spartan-alike will grab hold of some ledge or another, missions that are broken because.... well I don't know why you can't do some of them, vehicles (particularly the civilian ones) that incredidibly actually handle just like shopping trolleys with wonky wheels, weapons that have all the stopping power of a Nerf (TM) gun, still no climbing animation even on things you should clearly just climb, inconsistent reactions with identical looking surfaces (the original and the more recent inFamous had this problem too), sticky scenery, a 7ft cybernetically enhanced hero that has trouble pushing past a teeny civilian, lock-on that seems to have even worse targeting prioritising protocol than good old GTA III had, stupid peacekeepers that just get in the way and deserve to die (the crap weapons seem to work alright on them) though, don't they - EH? [flame] , vehicles that like to blow themselves up and/or last 2 seconds when you get in them, enemies that spawn from nowhere tooled up with rocket launchers that can fire on full auto, that annoying CUNT who tells you what/where/when/how to do everything and slags you off if you make the slightest mistake, OMIGOD I'm fed up with scratching around for ammo now, can I have a game where I can just shoot the fuckers please...???... and to cap it all, the stupidest camera I've seen in a game for some time (presumably damped to fuck to hide frame rate jitters). :axeman:

And yet... I'm still quite enjoying it, and have actually got quite addicted to it, despite thinking the demo was a bit cack. It gets a lot better when your abilities get to level 3 or 4 and like the first game, the upgrades really are noticeable. Cackdown 2 certainly has something - I just wish I knew what, because if they got rid of all those ^ bad bits and upped the "something" quota it'd be a top game, or maybe it'd turn out to be Prototype or Infamous. :shrug:
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So I picked up one of those new Xbox 360's at the weekend. A bit of an impulse, but mainly because my PS3 doesn't sound too healthy and is likely to give in sooner rather than later. Apparently it's "ready for Kinect". Does that mean it automatically deducts £150 from my bank account in November?

It's been nearly 2 years since my last 360, so I'm trying to catch up on the key exclusives I've missed. I've started with:

Left 4 Dead 2

Enjoyable, but clearly not a single player game. Hoping to get some co-op time on this soon to really judge it properly.

Halo ODST

Looks fabulous but I was expecting more. Maybe Halo has just lost its ability to dazzle because the core gameplay mechanics are largely unchanged since the first one.

Forza Motorsport 3

A massive surprise to me, it's awesome. No wonder the guys at Sony have delayed Gran Turismo for so long. No doubt this scared the bejeezus out of them when they saw it. Wonderful handling.

Next on the pile is Mass Effect 2. Anything else I've really missed out on?
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I have to say that Forza 3 soon gets tiresome m8. The tracks are bland, the races soon become neverending series of "been there done that in a slightly different vehicle" and the steering really lacks subtlety compared to the best driving games out there. I enjoyed DiRT 2 and NFS Shift a lot more, both offline and on - even with Shift's bouncy bug. I still bung Forza on occasionally just to let it run as a demo (because it's quite a looker) and pay a driver to do races so I might one day get the "achievement" for doing them all - it's already cheated me out of the 'own a car by every manufacturer' one so I feel the game owes me one. The sheer fact that they included the option to pay someone to drive for you implies to me that they knew how boring the game was gonna be in the long run - endless race series round unimaginative or simply unbelievable tracks do not a good racing game make. The Mount Fuji and Amalfi Coast tracks should have been amazing, but they're really, really boring with far too many blind crests.

I'd go for a few of the sandbox games if you didn't get round to them on PS3 too; Mercenaries 2, Saints Row 2 (really looks its age now), Red Faction Guerrilla, Just Cause 2, Red Dead Redemption etc. Battlefield Bad Co 2 converted me back to online FPS too, it's really, really good.

L4D2 is way too frenzied for me solo, and I'll only play it co-op (even the split screen is amazingly fast and smooth) but even co-op after half an hour or so I wanna go play something else, or hide behind the sofa. :$

Several of the above have co-op modes and I really enjoyed my co-op session on Transformers: War For Cybertron with Jon last week too - although I suspect I enjoyed it more than him. It's a shame that like Crackdown 2 it's another game you seem to spend a lot of time scratching around for weapons & ammo in, as the level design and the look of the game are awesome.

Others that I really enjoyed or want to get back to some time (and are staring at me from the shelf) include good old Crackdown, Frontlines, Timeshift, Fear, Mirror's Edge, WET, Burnout Paradise, Prototype, Darksiders, Blur, Split Second, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Alan Wake...

Trials HD and Shadow Complex are also worth a punt on the XBLA front - both tremendous examples of what can be done with a 2-D game.
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Thanks for all the suggestions pal.

After playing Halo ODST for a couple of hours I actually have very little interest in putting it on again. There's just nothing new or interesting about it.

In terms of XBLA, I've sampled Shadow Complex, Limbo and Toy Soldiers. Shadow Complex in particular is wonderful, almost like the love-child of Castlevania and Bionic Comando. Is there enough content to justify the £10?

As for Mass Effect 2, it's kinda intimidating me. I really want to get started on it but I worry that either it will consume me entirely, or it won't meet my expectations :-/

Trying to find a cheap-ish copy of Alan Wake. The site review has definitely piqued my interest.
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ODST really comes into its own as a co-op game, both the campaign and Horde (oops, I mean Firefight) elevate the game. We must try both sometime m8, I think we still have a copy here...

Shadow Complex hmmm... prolly no, it's really good but did get samey before the end -- one for a rainy day or two maybe.

Whilst on the subject of highly rated XBLA titles, I haven't played Braid yet but am told "I must", but by a couple of guys whose opinions on other, what I'd call benchmark titles, I truly questioned, along with their sanity, sexuality and parentage. Anyone played it?
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ODST really comes into its own as a co-op game, both the campaign and Horde (oops, I mean Firefight) elevate the game. We must try both sometime m8, I think we still have a copy here...

Shadow Complex hmmm... prolly no, it's really good but did get samey before the end -- one for a rainy day or two maybe.

Whilst on the subject of highly rated XBLA titles, I haven't played Braid yet but am told "I must", but by a couple of guys whose opinions on other, what I'd call benchmark titles, I truly questioned, along with their sanity, sexuality and parentage. Anyone played it?
I played the demo and it was way gaid.

The demo of Limbo is fucking amazing though.
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Diddly, I've played Braid and it is very nice, but frustrating as fuck. You do have the benefit of always being to rewind what you have done, and the solutions to some puzzles are satisfying to work out. But it means a lot of it is based on trial and error - much like Limbo. Plus there are some amazing tricky parts where your timing has to be spot on, and it can grate at those times. Especially when you can see what you should do, but the process of rewinding time throws you off slightly as you retry.

Now Limbo - oh you great big waste of fucking points. It oozes atmosphere (although the second half of the game loses a lot of that in my opinion) but I finished it - very easily - in less than three hours, and there really isn't much need to go back and play it again, save for the odd achievement. Some people have creamed themselves over it, and while I'm glad I played it, it isn't worth the points they are asking to be honest.

I have actually been playing some Toy Story 3, and shock horror, it isn't half bad to be honest. There are two halves to the game - a main quest, and a sandbox mode. The main quest follows the film (supposedly, but I swear one section if from Toy Story 2) and is your run of the mill jumping, shooting, and minor puzzle solving.

The sandbox mode is quite interesting. It's all fairly basic - you start off in a dusty western town with the odd building, and as you do simple quests, you can buy new buildings, townsfolk and new areas. These all give you even more quests to do, and it is all easy going, light hearted fun. Nothing too taxing, just some fetch quests, shooting, racing....the usual stuff. But for a movie tie-in, they really do seem to have put some effort into it.

I've been suffering with my old bike injuries recently, and so when I haven't wanted to play any games that require fast reflexes etc, this has been a great antidote. Not going to be everyone's cup of tea, but I highly recommend at least watching some youtube videos to check out the sandbox mode (which makes up probably 2/3 to 3/4 of the game).
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Diddly, I've played Braid and it is very nice, but frustrating as fuck. You do have the benefit of always being to rewind what you have done, and the solutions to some puzzles are satisfying to work out. But it means a lot of it is based on trial and error - much like Limbo. Plus there are some amazing tricky parts where your timing has to be spot on, and it can grate at those times. Especially when you can see what you should do, but the process of rewinding time throws you off slightly as you retry.

Now Limbo - oh you great big waste of fucking points. It oozes atmosphere (although the second half of the game loses a lot of that in my opinion) but I finished it - very easily - in less than three hours, and there really isn't much need to go back and play it again, save for the odd achievement. Some people have creamed themselves over it, and while I'm glad I played it, it isn't worth the points they are asking to be honest.

I have actually been playing some Toy Story 3, and shock horror, it isn't half bad to be honest. There are two halves to the game - a main quest, and a sandbox mode. The main quest follows the film (supposedly, but I swear one section if from Toy Story 2) and is your run of the mill jumping, shooting, and minor puzzle solving.

The sandbox mode is quite interesting. It's all fairly basic - you start off in a dusty western town with the odd building, and as you do simple quests, you can buy new buildings, townsfolk and new areas. These all give you even more quests to do, and it is all easy going, light hearted fun. Nothing too taxing, just some fetch quests, shooting, racing....the usual stuff. But for a movie tie-in, they really do seem to have put some effort into it.

I've been suffering with my old bike injuries recently, and so when I haven't wanted to play any games that require fast reflexes etc, this has been a great antidote. Not going to be everyone's cup of tea, but I highly recommend at least watching some youtube videos to check out the sandbox mode (which makes up probably 2/3 to 3/4 of the game).
I'm about to get back onto the bike after a year's absence - will ride a bit for you dude.

As for Limbo: I didn't buy it, just played the demo - the only thing I've ever bought was Trials HD....and that just got sooooo hard after a certain point that it was a joke.
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The Limbo demo seems to hypnotize my kids. Not sure I should be subjecting their fragile minds to some of gruesome deaths that poor boy endures.

I also overcame my fears and started on Mass Effect 2 last night. Only an hour in but I can tell already it's something special.
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I haven't played anything for ages because, since I came back from (a very difficult) holiday, I've just lost all interest in games. The last thing I played was the free Doctor Who game, which I enjoyed but more because I am a Doctor Who fan and it captured the atmosphere of the show than because it engaged my passion for gaming.

There's nothing on the gaming horizon that I'm looking forward to (just lots more sequels and rehashes) and, frankly, if 3D gaming takes off and becomes the norm then I will probably give up altogether because I can't see 3D effects.
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3D is what worries me as well. I can't see it either and it does concern me that at the moment, gaming is doing its damndest to try and alienate me.

I've seen people talking about this on other forums and pointing out that the 3DS has a slider to turn off 3D. But when Nintendo talk about 3D effects and how they would work in games, you just know that if they can include a gimmicky gameplay element, they will do.

I'm hoping the majority of the gaming community just aren't willing to invest in 3D TV's - having only just bought into flat screen technology, and 3D dies on it's arse.

Part of the appeal of gaming for me is talking about them on forums such as this, and it'll be a bit shit seeing people talk about something you can't appreciate yourself.

Back on topic :) Been playing Pure,as it came with the new console I bought a few weeks back, and it's really good. There is just enough of a challenge for me. Retrying a track maybe half a dozen times at most suits me just fine.

Also dipped my toe in the water playing Rockband 2 online with randoms. I'm normally not one for playing with randoms, and now I know why. People quitting out of songs midway through etc. I don't get why they even try playing online in the first fucking place the arseholes.
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