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This week I have mostly been playing
Topic Started: Apr 2 2006, 06:11 PM (37,816 Views)
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Just wondering if any of the fine folk on here are queuing up at midnight for Black Ops?

Personally I'm steering clear of Modern Warfare after the massive let-down last year. My disappointment was tempered by the fact I picked it up for only £26 at Sainsbury's on the day.

This year there's no such deals to be had and a frankly ludicrous RRP of £55. Reviews embargoed until tomorrow morning are also not the best sign.
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Sainsburys aren't quite matching that price. But they are supposedly doing midnight opening and doing the game for £29.97 if you spend £30 on food.
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Only a few people seem to be picking up on the fact that it's the shit (in comparison) one this year-Treyarch's poor man's offering which is usually little more than a couple of extra weapons and online modes. It does usually seems to pack loads in terms of bugs and graphical glitches though.

Shan't be getting this-I steered clear ever since CoD3 and am the better for it.

On this note how long into the consoles' lives do you think we are? As we have passed the point of the PSone and Two's lifecycle already and I know both manufacturers are pushing their consoles much longer this year to make up for massive development costs and production fuck-ups. But by this time all new games were £29.99 and lower, whereas we seem to be moving into higher prices (anything more than £39.99 unless SE is a rip-off these days). I just wanted to see what people thought about all this malarkey?
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Nov 8 2010, 02:41 PM
On this note how long into the consoles' lives do you think we are? As we have passed the point of the PSone and Two's lifecycle already and I know both manufacturers are pushing their consoles much longer this year to make up for massive development costs and production fuck-ups. But by this time all new games were £29.99 and lower, whereas we seem to be moving into higher prices (anything more than £39.99 unless SE is a rip-off these days). I just wanted to see what people thought about all this malarkey?
Interesting question my friend.

I think the marketing budget of Kinect should give us a good indication of just how long Microsoft think there is left in the 360.

The difficulty is trying to see where the next big developmental leap will come from. I can't see a graphical upgrade cutting it anymore, after-all just how much better can things looks on an HD TV?

Motion control is a product of this gen, not next gen and 3D is IMO already dead tech (besides I was reading this morning about the advances in holographic tech which should make 3D redundant).

I reckon 360 and PS3 have at least another 2 years. The interesting move will be Nintendo's who I assume will blink first in the race.

Anyhow, who pays £39.99 for a game these days anyway?
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Only a few people seem to be picking up on the fact that it's the shit (in comparison) one this year-Treyarch's poor man's offering which is usually little more than a couple of extra weapons and online modes. It does usually seems to pack loads in terms of bugs and graphical glitches though.

Shan't be getting this-I steered clear ever since CoD3 and am the better for it.

A mate of mine who is a game dev has been playing it with his team this past weekend, and they pretty much all think it's better than Modern Warfare 2 - at least single player, they haven't played multi yet.
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Not the least bit interested in MOH: COD5 MW3 Black Ops blah blah blah. And I thought it was only FIFA and PES who rolled out the same old crap once a year and justified the £45 on some minor tweak or another.

Maybe a slight pang of wanting it when the chaps from work play it a few times online - but that will pass.

To each their own, I'm just a tad bored with modern shooters - being pasted online as I can only spare an hour here or there to play. The 6 hour single payer campaign doesn't take the edge off either. Wish there was a better way of levelling online skill - for parents like me with precious little time, online becomes a far less appealing proposition and this is what these games are aimed at I guess.
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Not the least bit interested in MOH: COD5 MW3 Black Ops blah blah blah. And I thought it was only FIFA and PES who rolled out the same old crap once a year and justified the £45 on some minor tweak or another.

Maybe a slight pang of wanting it when the chaps from work play it a few times online - but that will pass.

To each their own, I'm just a tad bored with modern shooters - being pasted online as I can only spare an hour here or there to play. The 6 hour single payer campaign doesn't take the edge off either. Wish there was a better way of levelling online skill - for parents like me with precious little time, online becomes a far less appealing proposition and this is what these games are aimed at I guess.
I used to play online all the time and as a 'youngster' I used to come top of the board all the time. Now I don't have the time to invest in it I still come top of the board most times but not without a lot of frustration-I avoid certain times of day as I know the kids will be playing, and they have hundreds of hours on the game.

The levellers in CoD definitely aren't good enough and they need something pretty drastic-the only thing I can think of is having something like Halo where you can be in ranked/non-ranked games, so you can have a stream for people who just want a couple of games without being too serious, and have no levelling system at all to discourage the nobs who play all day everyday in order to prestige.


As for consoles it appears they're going the same way as political parties-all moving towards one central point in order to appeal to everybody (even though diversity was essentially the point of multiple consoles) and how far everyone goes with this motion sensing, family friendly bollocks will determine my next move. I'm agreed on 3d tech, a waste of time, and motion sensing only appeals to me when in the context of a real game instead of mini-games (as I thought they would do with kinect).

I know I don't pay full price but the £45 and £50 titles still seem to keep their value for longer over time, whereas £39.99 games seem to drop to half price within a month or so, so there must be something psychological going on...
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Not the least bit interested in MOH: COD5 MW3 Black Ops blah blah blah. And I thought it was only FIFA and PES who rolled out the same old crap once a year and justified the £45 on some minor tweak or another.

Maybe a slight pang of wanting it when the chaps from work play it a few times online - but that will pass.

To each their own, I'm just a tad bored with modern shooters
From the Black Ops campaign PoV I gotta say I'm completely undewhelmed so far, playing on 'Hardened' it all seems completely OTT. Apart from some striking character models (which aren't actually that well animated) the first few missions and the way the Black Ops thing has been approached seems very old hat too. Without spoilers the thing feels like a first person Saw initially, and the torture continues with some incredibly hackneyed levels that I felt like I'd played before, several times. With so many games to play the CoD online treadmill with its remarkably samey gameplay doesn't interest me at all, I'd much rather play RDR, Reach or the excellent Bad Company 2 for my MP fix. The strangest thing of all is that I think I'm going to end up liking Medal of Honor more than CoD this year, and who'da thought that? :-/
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Well, it's been a while since I posted on this thread so.....

Enslaved

What a stonking demo. What an underwhelming full game. I gave up on this after about 5 hours or so; that initial level (the demo) really was the high point so that, coupled with the spastic camera saw me returning it to LoveFilm

Mafia II

Think I'm a fair way into it, and am not minding it (not exactly a ringing endorsement), but have been lured away by....

Fallout: New Vegas

Ahhhh...one shouldn't be this comfortable with something that really only feels like an addon, but it feels damn good to be back. I have absolutely NO idea why this and F3 worked so well on me, as I'm not an RPG nerd (honest). maybe it's like the gaming equivalent of smoking or summink? A habit? I just love it and dunno why. Liz looked up from the laptop the other night and said: "I don't get this game, and I don't get why YOU like this game cos it's not your usual 'shoot-everything' stuff - you just seem to wander around collecting stuff?"

Love it.
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I had a bit of a lull with New Vegas, as I don't actually find the world as interesting as Fallout 3's. But some nice missions have got me wanting to get back to it as soon as possible.

Had a small dabble on Black Ops and yeah it is over the top, but then so was Modern Warfare 2 to be honest. The one thing that REALLY pisses me off, is not being able to use cover. I don't give a flying fuck that it isn't meant to be a cover based shooter, every single fucking soldier in the world is taught how to use cover. Worse, you kind of try and hide behind things yourself as best you can, while you A.I mates manage to hide behind cover just fine. Really fucks me off.

Played and finished James Bond:Bloodstone and really enjoyed it. I seem to be developing a pattern where the not so great games get my full attention (New Vegas isn't included in that before Diddly makes some smart arse comment :) ) and that game was no exception. I just had fun playing it. Maybe it was the easiness of it that meant I just felt like a badass spy without worrying too much about how to pull off fancy moves.

But it looks lush in places as well, which I guess coming from Bizarre Creations is to be expected. I still think PGR4 is one of the best looking games this generation. And as over the top as it was, one chase scene in particular was quite spectacular.

Still playing an online tournament each week of F1 2010 and it continues to be as great online as it is shit offline even with the new patch. They didn't fix broken blue flags, they didn't fix the fact the game still freezes up, and they managed to actually create a new fuel bug while trying to patch other things. Codemasters really have lost the plot lately.
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Had a small dabble on Black Ops and yeah it is over the top, but then so was Modern Warfare 2 to be honest.
Yeah but at least it didn't seem to involve time-travelling weaponry. Miniguns and what appears to be laser targeting in the early 60s and 70s? The game feels waaaaaaaay more OTT than MW2. The box is misleading too as there's no campaign co-op (I presume the co-op is in shoot-the-Zombies game - yawn), the one thing that WaW had over the IW CoDs has gone. For. Fuck's. Sake. [sad]

And for the record I'm truly glad you old faggots are enjoying New Vegas so much, it's much better to have you playing that than wandering around stations collecting train numbers or asking people if you can have the stamps off their foreign letters. [tongue] :rofl:
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Still playing an online tournament each week of F1 2010 and it continues to be as great online as it is shit offline even with the new patch. They didn't fix broken blue flags, they didn't fix the fact the game still freezes up, and they managed to actually create a new fuel bug while trying to patch other things. Codemasters really have lost the plot lately.
Don't really know what your problem is with F1, my last few races since the patch haven't had the only bug that really annoyed me (the pit stop one), and you only have to watch a real qualifying session to see how often blue flags (or blue LEDs as it tends to be now) actually have any effect, so suck it up, cars regularly pull out of the way in qualifying and certainly get out of the way when you come up to lap them. And what's the fuel bug? I don't have fuel turned on as it plays so little part in the real sport now, so this sounds like more Retro-whinging to me. :shrug:

How about you list all the NV bugs, glitches and freezes on here as well (and don't say you haven't had any, because no one will believe you,) or aren't there enough hours in the day? :P
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The only bug I've had was a Mutated Gecko half stuck in the scenery....oh, and a freeze as I left a building....and without being too much of an apologist, that's with 20 hours in on an openworld game....err...OK....?
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I've had two bugs in New Vegas now in almost 35 hours of gameplay. Each time it froze after leaving a building. But it had always created a save so a quick reload and I was sorted.

F1 2010 still locks up on occasion for whatever reason - this is also noted by people on the codemasters forums. The new fule bug is in online play so far - not tried single player to test it. But online fuel used to have weight and affect driving. They have somehow broken it and fuel makes no difference now. Blue flags are fucked in multiplayer. If someone is coming to lap you, blue flags don't appear, and the problem you face (and which I have personally faced) is that I have moved across for people to lap me and also gone and let through people who were just racing me for position. With mates it isn't so bad as they tell you they are coming - but not everyone uses a mic in which case you are screwed. With randoms they don't say a word. Blue flags are FUCKED! An essential part of F1 and they don't work at all.

I have hand on heart had more bugs in F1 than New Vegas. Might not be the case overall between both games, but for me personally F1 has given me more issues, so that is the game I comment on the most.

edit: forgot the worst part of F1. The fucking contracts. I completed a season for a lesser team and came fifth or sixth I think it was at the end of the season. I had always given positive answers when interviews were given. And guess what, end of season I have one contract offer, for fucking Virgin! My team tell me I've done a stellar job, but don't want me to drive for them. All other teams say they didn't like my interview answers. Presumably they wanted me to slag my team off? So now if I play a second year, despite doing a fantastic job for the team, I have to drive a car at the back of the field. That there sure is progress :)
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that's with 20 hours in on an openworld game....err...OK....?

You say "openworld game" like it's an excuse Juzzy. This is an old, presumably tried and tested game engine that, let's face it looked aged when F3 came out, and NV should have had each and every glitch fixed before release when it's traded so heavily on F3's GoTY status. But to bat the ball back: you accept them because you, for some inexplicable reason, like the game, and that's your problem. How the fuck you can give up on an entertaining romp like Enslaved and play that tedious crap for the rest of your life is beyond me...err...OK? :Zzzz:


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edit: forgot the worst part of F1. The fucking contracts. I completed a season for a lesser team and came fifth or sixth I think it was at the end of the season. I had always given positive answers when interviews were given. And guess what, end of season I have one contract offer, for fucking Virgin! My team tell me I've done a stellar job, but don't want me to drive for them. All other teams say they didn't like my interview answers. Presumably they wanted me to slag my team off? So now if I play a second year, despite doing a fantastic job for the team, I have to drive a car at the back of the field. That there sure is progress
Nigel Mansell won the F1 title in '92 with an incredibly dominant display, and Williams didn't offer him a contract for the next year because they thought it was all down to the car, so is it unrealistic for a F1 team to make a huge ricket? And I suspect you turned down contracts with other teams of a similar standard, I know I did - fucking HRT indeed. But agreed, the whole interview/contract thing is lightweight BS, if they were gonna include it they should have thought it through a lot better.

And sorry, I know I'm too old for that sort of thing but "Fucking Virgin" made me :rofl: and still is.
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MW2, Black Ops etc?

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