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| dunkle | Nov 22 2010, 01:27 PM Post #976 |
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Seen no mention of it but cant see how it can not be common its like playing a Black Ops at max setting on a 4 year oldPC |
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| Juz | Nov 22 2010, 01:51 PM Post #977 |
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How odd! |
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| Blakey | Nov 22 2010, 02:02 PM Post #978 |
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Finished my play-through of Black Opps. I'll save the meat for my review but suffice to say the campaign was imo a significant improvement on Modern Warfare 2. Just started on Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit and feck me is it fast! I'm struggling a little with the handling and not finding it easy to dodge in and out of traffic like I used to in Burnout. Playing as the cops is fun and brings back fond (rose-tinted) memories of paying 20p a go on the Chase HQ arcade cabinet. I've dabbled a little online and the cops versus racers mode is nice and frenetic. |
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| Diddly | Nov 22 2010, 03:14 PM Post #979 |
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Well my myth's been shipped, so there.
Read Jon's review m8, it's the only one I've read to actually describes what the game is like to play. I watched poor Sloppy try and what sounds like the same fight as Dunk and thought why bother when there are so many better games out? Even CoD3 on Veteran wasn't that stupidly tough, and it never had the frame rate problems NV has, it actually looks like it's going to crash sometimes. But then, I'm probably only saying that because "I hated F3" |
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| Juz | Nov 22 2010, 03:50 PM Post #980 |
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Without wishing to sound like a fanboy, I kind of felt like giving up on that review after the opening cutscene was described as "Laughably crap." That obviously sets the tone from there on in, and is just completely derogatory - natch, this is OPINION, and can't be right or wrong, but "Laughably crap" just seems.....petty? MOST cutscenes ain't great, as they're game-makers attempts at films, but this one was (imho) actually pretty atmospheric and did exactly what it needed to do without any extraneous bullshit. When a review starts that quickly with something that so categorically denigrates the game, I'm guessing that the figure at the end ain't gonna be stratospheric. Again....not an apologist for the game (which I thoroughly enjoy as you all know, so can only speak as I find), but then describing the ranged combat as "broken" seems way OTT too - it doesn't feel "broken" to me; Mafia II's did, but loads of people thought it was awesome. Oh well - horses for courses and all that. Edited by Juz, Nov 22 2010, 04:58 PM.
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| Diddly | Nov 22 2010, 07:47 PM Post #981 |
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You seriously thought this ^ placeholder-looking piece of video-excrement was "pretty atmospheric"? Two ridiculously un-scary retards and what looks like a 1970s Action Man (who seems to have stolen stolen Buzz's jacket) kill ya after about a week's wafflebollocks and jerky scrolling - ooh how atmospheric! (I guess it's quite impressive if you like Xbox graphics - and I'm being generous there.) I can't believe you can defend that ^ pap after some of the visuals devs have dished up in intros and cut scenes this year - and often using the in-game graphics engines too. I should probably also say that as Jon is unlikely to read this and reply that he was quite a fan(bloke) of F3, but was expecting a lot more from NV than the lazy, flawed, buggy, jerky load of crap they dished up and even then then generously (and VERY optimistically) suggested that if they ever fixed it it was worth 8, so Juzzy, you do do indeed sound like a fanboy, or just a narrow minded twat that's not interested in hearing your fave game have the truth told about it by a knowledgable gamer with no vested interest, unlike 99.9% of the other NV reviews on the net, in mags and on TV. And while I'm at it you old Joey, although I haven't played NV (and wouldn't touch it now with yours) F3's "broken ranged combat" (not that the melee combat was "unbroken") was the only reason I didn't persevere with it and I have no idea what your problem was with Mafia II, I thought the shootouts were as good as RDR's, and in some places better, the cover system certainly worked better and there were a lot less aiming issues, and no horses or courses either.
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| Retrovertigo | Nov 22 2010, 10:02 PM Post #982 |
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Well, to point out the glaringly obvious, you don't need cutting edge graphics to create an atmosphere - which is what Juz was talking about. Great stories, and atmosphere have been created all the way back to the Snes and no doubt before that with text based games. You don't like the game, and that is fine. But honestly? You can't be taken seriously when you haven't played it and rely on just watching video snippets or other people playing it. Deadly premonition looks like a pile of old wank - but it has something. It has a million issues and looks so dated, but by god if it isn't better than the sum of its parts. But if I was a jaded old cynic, I'd sit and watch someone else play a few minutes playing it and declare it to be a steaming old turd - but I'd be wrong ![]() |
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| Juz | Nov 22 2010, 10:17 PM Post #983 |
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1. I think that VATS is the bollocks and have yet to see it done as good elsewhere, so whether the "normal" aiming is broken is kinda moot as it has an addition that rocks. 2. I found Mafia II's combat fiddly and jerky so there! :p |
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| Diddly | Nov 23 2010, 01:50 AM Post #984 |
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How fucking dare you suggest I'd do that! FYMLCFOBI (For Your Memory Lacking Cheeky Fucking Old Bastard's Information), I played our Fallout Fucking 3 promo for hours and hours because it was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread, but I just didn't "get it" at all and so passed it on to whoever reviewed it (I think it was b3ast1e, who loved it, but then, he is mental.) I thought it was tedious, the atmosphere lacking and the AI that could have made it or in fact broke it to be truly, embarassingly pathetic. I thought the combat was so bad as to be laughable, that VATS was pathetically slow, and combined with the whole "dice roll" thing virtually pointless - I mean, what's the point in pausing, removing any sense of involvement from the game, then aiming accurately only for some random number to decide that you missed? Fuck that, if I wanted that shit I'd find some hippies and play D&D. Lots of games have allowed you to target different parts of the body in real time (and worked a fuck sight better than VATS too Juz, so Ner) so I didn't really see the fascination with that either. Juz's comparisons of VATS and Mafia II do confirm that Fallout suits people who can't shoot for shit and panic when under heavy fire or when someone throws a molotov at them though. If I thought the game looked dated, played like old cack and, apart from the scenario, lacked anything I wanted out of a game 2 years ago, and this quarter-sequel add-on o-la looks and plays worse now, I'm supposed to fall in love with and put myself through the same torture again? Why, because Eurogamer says so? Or because you girls like it...? Not going to happen. Saying that the normal aiming is broken but VATS works (kind-of) means Juz can't be taken seriously imo, and neither can someone who slags a game relentlessly and then plays it every fucking week, while defending furiously the buggiest game of the year. Why don't you two get a room? POOFLF (Pair Of Old Fallout Loving Faggots) Or maybe you could play the online co-op mode together? No, of course you can't can you, they can't get the game running on one console properly never mind syncing with another, maybe Fallout 10 will have co-op or even be MMO? I really doubt it, at this rate of progress never mind text-based, it'll be a fucking board game. If you two like and are prepared to tolerate it, and waste god knows how many hours of your life playing it then fine (I know all about the addictive qualities of RPGs, trust me, I played FFXI for 2 years and that really was crap.) But really, truly don't expect me to agree with you just because you like it, or because it's an old franchise, or think it has "great stories" (yeah, right.) Oh, and finally: if you can't get a feel for a game just by watching someone you know well play it then you ain't the gamer I thought you were m8. Okay, so what does VATS stand for, Vague Aiming, Too Slow? Vacant Asshole Terrible Sniper? |
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| Juz | Nov 23 2010, 07:07 AM Post #985 |
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Hooray!!! You win!! |
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| Retrovertigo | Nov 23 2010, 10:02 AM Post #986 |
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Ermmm, I was talking about New Vegas, which you keep slagging off but I'm sure you have said you haven't played? I'm still puzzled by your attitude toward this one game to be honest. You admit yourself that Saw and Saw 2 were shit, had awful graphics at times, had glitches etc etc - but like me you stuck with them, and they didn't even have a half decent story to keep things interesting. I'm at a loss as to why you get so riled up by one game in particular, but don't apply your same reasoning to other games with similar issues. I'm dropping out of this discussion now - I like the game, and I like the story so I'm happy to play it, and I don't need everyone else to like it for me to carry on enjoying it. Still not had any bugs, apart from one which seems to affect a few of my games actually - where my joypad starts to vibrate and won't stop, and games lock up. But has happened in a number of titles I own and on both my 360's Edited by Retrovertigo, Nov 23 2010, 10:10 AM.
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| dunkle | Nov 23 2010, 11:22 AM Post #987 |
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Must be that time of the month again ! I never had any problems with NV up til the last part - seemed that it just did not have the technology to back up and support its ambition I enjoyed it up til then though, although not as much as Fallout 3 - I guess too much of a good thing I suppose Still they are both very ambitious games and it does seem the general opinion is very favourable and im sure before long a proper sequal will be along - still fail to see how one game can draw so much hatred though, just dont play it, no point trying to say why its shit when others obviously disagree- guess its the old "opinions are like arseholes" thing Anway I gave up on Black Ops - this is where I can understand where Diddly is coming from with his Fallout rant as I fail to see why people see in the COD games - a lack of value where single player is concerned (and to be honest Doom and the like had better more varied maps) and a multi-player which just seems full of weird obsessives - how anyone thinks its a better multiplayer experience than Bad Company 2 is beyond me I also gave up on Fable 3 - bored me senseless and just seemed to be Fable 2 but with a few steps taken backwards.Had no desire to play it at all after the first few missions Swapped them in Argos for Brotherhood and Most Wanted Not played Brotherhood yet but Most Wanted is a great deal of fun -love the cops and robbers stuff - real "thing of childhood dreams" Will give Brothehood a play soon Also recommend Argos for trades - they gave me £38 for Black Ops( I paid £40) and £36 for Fable 3 (I paid £29) |
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| Zaichik | Nov 23 2010, 12:56 PM Post #988 |
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Gosh, it's been a long time since we've had such a heated debate on here. It's almost like old times. Anyway, my copy of GT5 has arrived so I'll post first impressions shortly. TBH, I'm surprised I ordered it because: 1. I got bored with GT3 and haven't bought a GT game since 2. I'm crap at racing games, especially the simmy ones with things like licence tests. But still... I'm still plugging away at Red Dead Redemption but I doubt I'll finish it because I can't complete Uncle's horse taming mission. I find it really hard to judge which way to move the stick to avoid being thrown off and I usually get so enraged at the old man's constant, repeated nagging that I give up before I've even tamed one horse, let alone three. I've also been playing Black Ops, single player. This was the first game I've bought on release day since since Red Dead (and I did so despite not even opening either World at War or MW2 yet). I'm really enjoying the action but am finding the style of storytelling a little out of keeping with the setting - if it didn't keep reminding me that it's meant to be set in the sixties, I would assume I was playing another MW type game. |
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| Diddly | Nov 23 2010, 01:09 PM Post #989 |
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Why would I bother? everyone I know says it's worse that F3, amd I've watched enough of it to see the technical problems that you insist don't exist. As a gamer and writer I can garner a lot from just watching people play games, I'm amazed that you can't, and FYI many, many "hands-on" previews ever since games magazines were born have been written from watching the devs demo a game and no more. Do you need to jump off a cliff to prove to yourself it's a bad idea and you wouldn't enjoy it? Do you need to feel a beautiful woman's tits to be able to fancy her? I fucking don't, so don't talk such crap. I have no idea what they've got to do with each other but for me at least, Saw & Saw II never became unplayably dull, and never looked like it was going to crash. I was hugely disappointed by F3 and thought the hype and GotY status were inexplicable and undeserved, and most people I know have been even more disappointed with NV, which will probably be GotY again, if only because of blinkered Fallout lovers like you. You probably really think NV is a better game than Halo Reach or Red Dead Redemption don't you? ![]() Now I'm going to play GT5 or NFS, both of which you probably think are shit.
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| dunkle | Nov 23 2010, 02:34 PM Post #990 |
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WellI stuck with it and completed New Vegas with the NCR ending The actual end is brilliant as it really does take account of EVERYTHING you did during the game.Its great how you think you have done good but then get some of the sadder and truer facts of what happened after the end Just a shame of the problems with the last battle |
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Lots of games have allowed you to target different parts of the body in real time (and worked a fuck sight better than VATS too Juz, so Ner) so I didn't really see the fascination with that either. Juz's comparisons of VATS and Mafia II do confirm that Fallout suits people who can't shoot for shit and panic when under heavy fire or when someone throws a molotov at them though.
Or maybe you could play the online co-op mode together? No, of course you can't can you, they can't get the game running on one console properly never mind syncing with another, maybe Fallout 10 will have co-op or even be MMO? I really doubt it, at this rate of progress never mind text-based, it'll be a fucking board game.


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