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Hurrah!; PS3 @ work
Topic Started: Sep 6 2007, 10:58 AM (1,324 Views)
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NNnnnnnggggggg!

I had pretty much made my mind up. The only nagging doubt in my mind at the moment is the storage issue.

Will the DVD format of the 360 restrict it on future titles compared to the PS3....

Gonna get some hands on experience of the PS3 @ work. Being badgered by a few 360 owners to take the plunge.

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Was storage ever an issue on CD based games ? was it an issue with first gen DVD games ?

All that will happen is the HD will be used more and games will no doubt come out on more than one disc - storage I dont think will be an issue
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Sep 11 2007, 09:06 PM
NNnnnnnggggggg!

I had pretty much made my mind up. The only nagging doubt in my mind at the moment is the storage issue.

Will the DVD format of the 360 restrict it on future titles compared to the PS3....

Gonna get some hands on experience of the PS3 @ work. Being badgered by a few 360 owners to take the plunge.

Looking at past console generations I'd say that the best thing would be to go for the console that has the games you want.
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Sep 11 2007, 07:16 PM
Gran Turismo 5 pounds Forza 2 into the ground and then shits on it from a great height,

It's statements like these that are truly fuckin retarded.

Have you played GT5????? Or have you just played the free download of one track and a handful of cars which is just GT4 in hi-res?

Yes, the GT's have ALWAYS looked great....in terms of nearly every other aspect (mainly AI) they have remained resolutely last-gen.

Why do people rave about games that aren't even out? Worse, why do people say stuff like they'll "shit on X from a great height?" Seriously - it's a playground retort.
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GT5 is not at the top of my list.

I purchased GT1 because when it came out it WAS groundbreaking.

Played it to death at first building up my old jalopy of a car to a reasonable spec.

Then began to get bored.

I purchased GT3 because when it came out it WAS also groundbreaking.

Followed similar pattern marvelling at the graphics etc then gradually got bored of the racing. I only truly enjoyed the rallying in the game.

I doubt I'll get GT5 even if I do get a PS3 as there are far more games of a similar ilk. The GT series is TOO much sim for my liking. I have a real car sat on my driveway that I can drive and tinker with (albeit not in the same league as GT motors). I'm happier playing driving games where you can through the cars about with reckless abandon for a real adenelin rush. The TOCA style of damage etc is more my bag. Racing with a mate and being near to tears as your tyre-less steaming weak limps across the finish line.
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Sep 12 2007, 07:46 AM
It's statements like these that are truly fuckin retarded.

True enough - but for me free downloadable GTHD Concept pounds Forza 2 into the ground and then shits on it from a great height. I've played that way more than that graphically horrible rehash of Forza, a game so mindnumbing that it sent me to sleep, not during endurance races but inside 3 laps. Plus of course, the PS3 doesn't keep telling me that my brand new game disk is dirty, and has never decided it's a DVD player and not a console either... :D
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Sep 12 2007, 01:58 PM
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Sep 12 2007, 07:46 AM
It's statements like these that are truly fuckin retarded.

True enough - but for me free downloadable GTHD Concept pounds Forza 2 into the ground and then shits on it from a great height. I've played that way more than that graphically horrible rehash of Forza, a game so mindnumbing that it sent me to sleep, not during endurance races but inside 3 laps. Plus of course, the PS3 doesn't keep telling me that my brand new game disk is dirty, and has never decided it's a DVD player and not a console either... :D

Ah

Not just me then
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Sep 12 2007, 07:46 AM
It's statements like these that are truly fuckin retarded.

And 90% of the other statements in this thread aren't? Even going back one page, I can see:

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And the PS2 was a flakey piece of shite, I'd be scared of wearing it out using a PS3 for so many things (and no I'm not joking!)


Er, so the console he's defending isn't a flakey piece of kit? Seems like it is, even when just playing games...

Seems like any statements against the PS3 are fine, whereas any directed towards the 360 seem to be ridiculed or batted away with "yeah, but but but they extended the warranty so you can't say that anymore".

Come on guys, at least provide a decent argument both ways.

My personal opinion - If you want it purely for the games, list all games out now and coming soon you want to play, weight them with a score of how much you want them and add them up for each console. the console with the highest score, get it.

EDIT: you can also add in the wanted features of the consoles eg blu-ray player, xbox live etc. just so it's not only about software. Don't get too scientific though, if it comes out close, then think about it more carefully. It's a lot of money for either console.
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ACK!!

In the old days, we ALL used to jump on the "<Unreleased Game X> is better than <Existing Game Y>" thing, but there you go.

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If it was not for the fact the PS3 could play blu-rays I doubt I would have got one, and if I had then it would definatley have been used less than the Wii

Ok Resistance is good (and as was said on here it gets better the more you play it) and Motorstorm is also rather special - but for me thats it

There is NOTHING coming out just for the PS3 before xmas that I am remotley interested in (well there is Drakes Fortune but after reading the GamesTM preview I doubt that will be out til 2008)

The 360 on the other hand has

Halo 3
PGR4
Mass Effect
and Scene It

All 4 seem to be exclusive titles and games that I personally would want to play.

Drakes Fortune aside the ONLY game I can see on the horizon for the PS3 only that i would like is Metal Gear - which i guess is going to be Feb at earliest - actually I think there are more games coming out on the Wii that I fancy getting (RE:UC, Mario and Sonic and Super Mario Galaxy)


Both PS3 and 360 though seem to have a hefty selection of multi-platform games coming out. The yearly EA batch will no doubt play 100% the same across both formats and I imagine there will be very little in it for the other games.

For me I will get them on the 360 - the achievments thing occasionally adds longevity to games (for example call of duty 2 and football manager) and the Live function works much better than PS3 online which still does not feell correctly intergrated

Personally I think for this Christmas the 360 is a winner, however come this time next year and the release of the PS3s potential it may well be a different story (mind can see XBOX console gen 3 being announced to take some shine off it)

The 360 is really a console that got me into gaming - I have played more games, enjoyed more games and completed more games in the last 2 years or so than in the rest of my 31 years put together. Prior to the 360 (and with the exception of KoTOR) I never stayed up til small hours just getting that bit further, never would I have preserved (and enjoyed at same time) games like Dead Rising and never would I be returning to games months after purchase.

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Sep 12 2007, 02:34 PM


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And the PS2 was a flakey piece of shite, I'd be scared of wearing it out using a PS3 for so many things (and no I'm not joking!)


Er, so the console he's defending isn't a flakey piece of kit? Seems like it is, even when just playing games...


yes of course the 360 is flakey. I have had first hand experience of it.

But my 360 gets used for games then switched off. You are talking about the PS3 being a dvd/bluray player, games machine, and also a TV hub. Which means having it switched on in some capacity non-stop while you are in the living room.

The PSone had a terrible problem with duff lasers. The PS2 has had a bad track record as well. And now the PS3 has bad reliability but has escaped bad press so far.

I'd rather my machine used for games and then given a breather. Plus I am safe in the knowledge that MS have a 3 year warranty in place now.

I know who I trust with my money more - especially having been involved with Sony goods in a professional capacity and knowing the bad rep they get quality wise.
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The joke of this thread is that (I think) those of us that are not exactly praising the PS3 actually own one! That's rare; to find people NOT trying to justify a purchase (and actually going the opposite way) is extremely unusual. Doesn't that tell you summink?

I'd love for my PS3 to be the console of choice, but at the moment, and for the forseeable future it just doesn't look like it will. A good example is playing The Darkness feels stilted compared to the short time I played it with the 360 pad - just a pad preference, but there you go.

There are NO fanboys here!
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Sep 12 2007, 05:04 PM
yes of course the 360 is flakey. I have had first hand experience of it.

But my 360 gets used for games then switched off. You are talking about the PS3 being a dvd/bluray player, games machine, and also a TV hub. Which means having it switched on in some capacity non-stop while you are in the living room.

The PSone had a terrible problem with duff lasers. The PS2 has had a bad track record as well. And now the PS3 has bad reliability but has escaped bad press so far.

I'd rather my machine used for games and then given a breather. Plus I am safe in the knowledge that MS have a 3 year warranty in place now.

I know who I trust with my money more - especially having been involved with Sony goods in a professional capacity and knowing the bad rep they get quality wise.

Well thats just it, I only picked on that quote as an example, not supposed to be a direct attack. But now that you bring it up, there was no mention of any particular reliability problems on the PS3, or evidence to back it up in your post (not that I don't believe you but I haven't read any reports on it). I'm assuming you don't own one?

Its like me saying Windows Vista is rubbish because so were Windows 98 and XP (an example guys, I'm not getting into any arguments about OS's)

It just seems people are selectively picking bad things to say about whatever console they aren't backing without even checking to see/mentioning that they apply to "their" console.

I'm sitting on the fence, I don't have money to waste on something I wont use that often. I have played on both consoles and they seem.... ok. I think the graphics are great but there are very few games on either console that make me change my mind about my favourite games. (or in the PS3's case, just very few games haha)

I was just writing what I was thinking reading through this thread.

EDIT: Yes, I also know from first hand experience that Sony gear doesn't stand up to the test of time, mainly audio equipment though, not had much else!
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Sep 12 2007, 06:46 PM

Well thats just it, I only picked on that quote as an example, not supposed to be a direct attack. But now that you bring it up, there was no mention of any particular reliability problems on the PS3, or evidence to back it up in your post (not that I don't believe you but I haven't read any reports on it). I'm assuming you don't own one?


No I don't own one yet - but only because there are no games I want to play on it right now. That will all change when any form of Gran Turismo hits the system, and of course Final Fantasy.

The cost is too great right now for me to warrant a purchase. Espeically as there isn't one game I want to own, and the online side of things pales in comparison to Live on the 360. This is based on seeing it in action at friends, plus their own impressions based on them owning both systems.

I think it was a couple of issues back in Edge, where they ran a piece of the reliablility problems of the 360. They spoke to a company who specialised in repairs and the guy representing them said that in fairness he had seen almost as many faulty PS3's but that somehow they had ducked under the radar so far.

For what it's worth, I have always owned all the consoles available and have never favoured one over another. Although I have always had a soft spot for Nintendo. The N64 and Snes probably being my favourite machines if I really had to choose.

It's not a case of if I will own a PS3, it's a case of when.

I'm glad you said the vista, xp thing was an example, as we all know XP is great and Vista is shit :) ;)

Oh and I didn't think you were having a direct dig at me by the way with your first quote.

With regards the whole HD-DVD/Bluray argument, I'm no film buff so don't really care which format wins to be honest. But I see Paramount have said they are going exclusive to HD-DVD. And they are due a big release of the original Star Trek series, complete with limited edition remote in the shape of a phaser. Now, to me, it's the geeks that see one format or another take off to begin with. Surely all those rushing to buy stuff like Star Trek will have quite a bearing on what format makes an impact? Maybe I'm talking out of my hat (arse), as I say, I'm no film expert by any means.
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Sep 12 2007, 07:27 PM

With regards the whole HD-DVD/Bluray argument, I'm no film buff so don't really care which format wins to be honest. But I see Paramount have said they are going exclusive to HD-DVD. And they are due a big release of the original Star Trek series, complete with limited edition remote in the shape of a phaser. Now, to me, it's the geeks that see one format or another take off to begin with. Surely all those rushing to buy stuff like Star Trek will have quite a bearing on what format makes an impact? Maybe I'm talking out of my hat (arse), as I say, I'm no film expert by any means.

Imagine my joy when I saw that Transformers wasn't gonna be on Blu Ray anytime soon.

OK, so it's not the end of the world, but it pissed me off - the PS3 upscales DVD pretty nicely so I'll probably borrow that off a workmate.

Incidentally, did anyone else hear about Michael Bay's outburst on his website about it not being on Blu Ray? To paraphrase, he bitched like fuck about it and said he wouldn't direct for them again....then withdrew the statement the following morning after speaking to Paramount, where it all suddenly became clear to him why restricting the release of one of his biggest flicks to HD and vanilla DVD made sense to everyone! Hollywood eh? TSK!
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