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| Michael Myers | Jan 21 2017, 08:30 PM Post #46 |
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1/21/17 9:25 pm est Based on everything I'm being told, me, Jason, Indiana, Superman, and Miyagi are still voting for Hannibal next. We all also want to throw the next challenge to make sure that happens before a merge or swap. However, that could be hard, because we have a lot of sit outs at the next challenge. But in a truly hilarious turn of events, Hannibal now wants to throw the challenge as well. He thinks doing so will ensure that Superman goes home. He wants me to help him throw it and he thinks he's convinced Jason to as well. But we both already wanted to, to vote HIM out. So he thinks throwing this thing is one more way he's controlling the tribe, and the game, but it's really just him helping to cement his own demise. Thanks, Hannibal. The irony is delicious. In the meantime, Hannibal also wants me to start pretending to "split away" from him, so people don't think we are so tight going into the merge, and also because he wants me to play double agent to see how people react. I think he specifically wants me to play this up with Clubber, who he constantly wants to "test" now. The thing is, this actually helps me. Because I WANT Clubber to know I'm going to make a move against Hannibal beforehand, so he doesn't take it as me making a move against him as well. But I was afraid to tell him about it, because I didn't want the information to get back to Hannibal. Now, I can't just outright say I'm going after Hannibal next, but I can HINT at it. I can hint at me being on the bottom of the Chianti "trio," and I can tell him I'm tired of feeling expendable and I can make him THINK a move is coming, without him feeling completely left out of the loop. That will make an explanation a LOT easier AFTER the move. And if word does get back to Hannibal, it won't matter. Hannibal is expecting it. Plus, if word gets back to Hannibal, it will show me that Clubber doesn't really want to work with me at all. It's kind of perfect, really. I might try to play this up with Freddy too. Right now, my biggest concern is I don't know what Miyagi is ever up to. He doesn't talk enough to me and I feel like he could be having conversations with others. I'm actually starting to trust Superman MORE than Miyagi. |
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| Michael Myers | Jan 21 2017, 10:41 PM Post #47 |
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1/21/17 11:40 pm est Well, I'm running with this thing about feeling on the outs with the other tribe. I'm not doing anything super drastic, but I'm basically letting it be known that I feel like maybe Jason and Hannibal are tighter to each other than they are to me. I've so far done it with Rocky and Jaws. Clubber is next. I want to make sure that when people see Hannibal's name go white, they realize WHY it happened. It wasn't a move against anyone else. It was simply a move against Hannibal and a move to make me look less threatening because of my ties to him. Of course, while yes, that is part of it, it actually IS a move against the others. It's a move to take power away from them... to create a vacuum that maybe I can rush in to fill. I mean, if the others think I still want to work with them, just not Hannibal, taking him out of the equation might just give me that option. At the same time, I won't have to even attempt that. Even if it prevents me from being the next target, I can STILL vote with my current ragtag lineup of misfits to take control at the merge. I mean, it would be SUCH a thrill if we could blindside Clubber as the first vote of the merge. But who knows. I don't know what's going to happen in the future. I don't even know for sure that Hannibal is getting voted out this round. I'm still nervous about Miyagi's lack of messages lately. I don't know what he's doing. I don't want to end up getting blindsided myself this round. Hannibal doesn't SEEM to know anything is up, but then again, he could be playing it off like I am. All I can do is work with the information I have, and if I were a betting man (which I'm not because I don't have enough money to be), I'd say things are still going according to my plan. In other news, I've really picked up my conversations with Superman. I felt I had to explain to him why Luke would vote with Hannibal after what Hannibal did to him, instead of going back with his old tribemate. It's because he has a cross tribe alliance, that includes Hannibal that has always trumped tribal lines that include Superman. It's that simple. Superman has always been nothing to Luke, because Luke is planning to work with a bigger group come merge. I told him I know this because Hannibal still thinks I'm working with him, so he tells me things. I told him Jason probably knows things like this too, but I asked him to keep it between us, because I don't need Jason getting pissed at me for giving Superman this kind of information. I also politely reminded him that Miyagi talks to Jason a good bit, so telling him might also be bad news. I'm hoping this will earn me his loyalty. I'm also hoping this will solidify, in his mind, that playing a lone wolf style game is a bad idea for the foreseeable future, because very soon, lines are probably going to be drawn in the sand. Until this point, Superman was the only member of the five in tomorrow's voting block not to know about any of this. And he's considered such a wildcard, that I don't think anyone wanted him to know. But if he actually does keep his mouth shut, giving him that information will benefit me by making him trust me and by also keeping him under control (which will also benefit the others). |
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| Michael Myers | Jan 21 2017, 11:00 PM Post #48 |
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O, and I'm totally proposing a little threesome of me, Miyagi, and Superman... to Superman. Miyagi is going to go along with it. Whether or not either of us want to actually pursue it is besides the point. Superman doesn't have to know that. :ph43r: Yeah, Miyagi is talking to me again... got a really good long message from him and I feel much better now. We are comparing notes about the other tribe. |
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| Michael Myers | Jan 22 2017, 12:14 AM Post #49 |
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Looking toward the merge... So, let's suppose we merge at 12. This is obviously just speculation. But if we do... We succeed in losing the challenge tomorrow night. Also just speculation... Hannibal gets voted out and Inigo/Freddy are safe. Going into the merge, we have me, Jason, Miyagi, Superman, and Indiana voting as a 5 person block. We'd need to flip one player from the other side to have a 6-6 tie. So, we flip either Inigo or Freddy. Then Jason plays his reward and we have control of the new tribe. Within the five, I'm cultivating a three with Miyagi and Superman, plus I'm still tight with Jason and I think Indiana. I'd have some options. And depending on who we vote out first, I'd have other options in people needing new allies. Now, if we don't merge until 10, things change. We'd have to win once to ensure we don't lose one of our 5. And we'd have to lose once to make sure we get rid of Luke Skywalker. From there, it would be similar to the above plan. If there is a swap, all bets are off.
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| BROBST | Jan 22 2017, 03:54 AM Post #50 |
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Thanks for all the informative updates, man!
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| Michael Myers | Jan 22 2017, 08:12 PM Post #51 |
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1/22/17 9:05 pm est Apparently, the consensus is that Inigo is in danger tonight. I'm not sure if that is real or if it a ruse, but either way, it's making people think Inigo is the guy to swing over to our side, so I'm working him now as well. I know Miyagi and Jason both have been already. And he had said something to me about thinking we have some "mutual friends," so I can only assume those are the two he is talking about. Meanwhile, Clubber just said something interesting to me... he's still on some gibberish about an all villains alliance, but he's also telling me that Rocky and Miyagi want to be honorary members. Now, Rocky makes sense. But Miyagi??? Another reason to keep an eye on Miyagi. Other than that, I have nothing to report right now. It's quiet. How crazy would it be if they are really blindsiding me tonight? :lol: Get me to throw a challenge, then get me to think Hannibal is throwing the same challenge even though he is secretly the target, but I'm the REAL secret target all along? That would be one hell of a move. And for some of these people, it would be a good move. For others, it would be a terrible move. For that second reason, I'm not thinking it's going to happen. But I've learned never to feel safe in these games. O, and I'm setting myself up to have an excuse for my Hannibal vote with the Cobra Kais. Because like I said before, now that Hannibal wants me to play the "double agent," I have an excuse to start acting not as close to him now, so that after the vote, I've already set up a basis for my excuses. |
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| Michael Myers | Jan 22 2017, 11:26 PM Post #52 |
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1/23/17 12:30 am est MERGE!!! The following is a message I just sent to Jason. It explains pretty much what I know right now. Instead of writing a typical confessional entry tonight, this will have to suffice as my analysis for the night, because I really do need to finish up on my messages an get some sleep... Clubber is asking if we are fucked now or if we are working with Miyagi, Superman, and Indy. I obviously couldn't tell him we were doing that, so I just told him I wanted to come into the merge with an open mind, looking at it as a new beginning. I told him I hope we're not fucked, and I told him I still hope Freddy will want to work with us, and that I was worried that him and Darth or Rocky would be unhappy with us, but if they aren't, that could be good news for all of us. I'm hoping that gives him a sense of hope and prevents him from scrambling. Meanwhile, Superman suggested to me that maybe we vote Luke out first because he feels most of them will be less invested in him, since he's been on our tribe all this time. Maybe more people would be open to the vote, and it's not like Luke will ever really want to work with us again anyway. Plus, conversations with him are so awkward now. I don't know if that's such a bad idea. He is useless to us, and voting him out would still get the job done, so if it's the easiest path, we might as well take it. Inigo did hint, however, that he heard Clubber might be going next? Not sure where he heard that from, but I'm assuming it would either be from Indiana or Miyagi. Indiana is working him now too. Freddy swears he is with you and me, period. He said he will piss anyone off we want, as long as we have a plan moving forward, so we should spend some time talking to him tomorrow. I know for a fact that he'll be much more comfortable voting Luke out than Clubber or Darth at this stage. And Indiana thinks Inigo is going to want to protect Rocky because he told Indiana that he doesn't think Rocky is as tight with the others as we think. All that said, I have to get some sleep. I'll talk to you more tomorrow. |
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| BROBST | Jan 22 2017, 11:40 PM Post #53 |
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SHOULD BE AN INTERESTING MERGE!!!!! |
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| Michael Myers | Jan 23 2017, 10:26 PM Post #54 |
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1/23/17 11:25 pm est Ok, now for a more in-depth merge update. As of right now, the official first target looks to be Clubber. Miyagi, Jason, myself, Superman, and Indiana are all on board. Freddy is also on board, saying that he is just point blank staying loyal to me and Jason, which is weird, and even fishy. But we'll take it if it's true. And Inigo is also saying he is on board. So, as long as just ONE of those two are being honest, and Clubber doesn't win the immunity challenge, Clubber is out of here. If he does win immunity, the back up plan is to vote Luke out. I think Jason is going to play his reward, just in case one of them is playing us or gets cold feet. That way, if it ties, we still win the round. Now onto some stuff about dynamics. I'm really working hard to cultivate a trio with myself, Superman, and Miyagi. Miyagi is starting to see that Superman is being receptive to it, so I think he is become more receptive to it himself. I don't plan on staying loyal to Jason for the rest of the game. He'd beat me at the end, hands down. He's more well liked than I am, and we've pretty much made all the same moves together at this point. So, even though any move I make against him is a ways off, I'm starting to plant the seeds now. I let Miyagi know that Jason has suspicions about him. I told him Jason was concerned about his relationships with Superman, Inigo, and Clubber. I told him I doubt Jason would target him, but he might try to target those people at some point to take them away from him as options. Miyagi seemed thankful for that information. Aside from just wanting to take Jason out eventually for my own benefit of having more control and having a better chance to win, I also need some of my other allies to think I'm not as tight with Jason as I really am at the moment, because that makes us dangerous. I want to be the one they want to work with, not target. Miyagi seems to be making some progress with Inigo, and after Clubber is gone, Rocky might really decide to stick it out with Inigo and ditch Cobra Kai altogether. That could be good as well, because it would give Miyagi and myself a potential foursome with those two. So I'm trying to cultivate relationships with both of them, though specifically with Rocky, who is more my speed. I'm also trying to cultivate something with Darth Vader, because he has an inkling that Clubber is in danger, and he doesn't to make any waves right now. He said he'd want to work with me down the line to leave our "marks" on the game, and that could also be an option for me. Right now I'm all about options. I'm even trying to be slightly open with Luke, the guardedly so. I don't want to flat out leave him in the dark this time around. Three times in a row is just bad for business. So, the clock is starting to tick away on my primary alliance with Jason. The question is who will take over when it goes off. Miyagi and Superman? Miyagi, Inigo, and Rocky? Darth Vader? I'm not sure yet. Time will tell. |
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| Michael Myers | Jan 23 2017, 10:30 PM Post #55 |
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Another option would be to get Freddy in on an alliance with me and Darth. If they'd both be receptive to that, that could work out well for me. Freddy said he generally liked Darth, and vice versa. So that could be perfect. Just another option. |
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| Michael Myers | Jan 23 2017, 11:23 PM Post #56 |
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Clubber is now trying a last ditch effort plan to save his ass by setting up voting block of me, him, Jason, Darth, Luke, Rocky, and Freddy. But Freddy has already (supposedly) pre-voted for Clubber. Jason and I are voting for Clubber. Darth has already resigned himself to the fact that Clubber is probably a goner. Luke is irrelevant, though I'll tell him who I'm voting for ahead of time. And now Rocky, having gotten a message from Clubber about the alliance, has told me he has no ties to Clubber and that he considers himself to be a "free agent." I think my talks with Rocky are paying off, and now I wouldn't even be surprised if I can get Rocky involved in the Clubber vote. |
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| BROBST | Jan 24 2017, 02:44 AM Post #57 |
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#AllAboutTheOptions |
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| Michael Myers | Jan 24 2017, 11:39 PM Post #58 |
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1/25/17 12:25 am est What an odd night. First of all, leading up to the challenge reveal, there was a lot of awkwardness, because Clubber was trying to talk to several of us as if we were in an alliance with him. Rocky just basically distanced himself from that big time, because he is an adaptable player, and he knows what's good for him. Darth tried to sway me to change my mind. But he wasn't pushy about it, and when he realized my mind was set, he backed off and, I believe, kept our talk somewhat confidential (I could be wrong). I did tell Luke how I was voting, because everyone else already knew. I think, from the sounds of it, that Jason probably told him too. Going into the challenge, the only goal was to make sure Clubber didn't win. That was the ONLY thing we needed to make sure of. And when the results were revealed, we could all release a sigh of relief, because the winner was Superman. But then... the twist. He could let the second place player also win immunity. Now, when you have already achieved your goal, common sense says you don't make a decision that could potentially reverse that achievement, right? Well, that's what Superman did. He chose to let second place get safety as well. WHAT IF SECOND PLACE WAS CLUBBER!!! I'm not sure if he did that to protect Clubber or to try to target Luke or just because he thought he'd make himself a target if he said no, but boy o boy, was it the wrong move in my eyes... and in Miyagi's. So he just took himself down a peg in my view as someone I will trust moving forward. Of course, it ultimately didn't matter for two reasons. 1. Freddy was second place and... 2. There was no vote anyway, since Jaws removed himself from the game. As if the night wasn't already strange enough, then came the aftermath of all of it. Apparently, Luke had told Clubber that Jason and I weren't voting with him... that we were just giving him lip service. I can't really hold it against Luke. We left him in the dark two votes in a row, so he really had no reason to be loyal to us... other than strategically, because we do outnumber him. But anyway, Clubber completely melted down. He is now messaging people telling them he basically wants to be voted out on Thursday. He told me that he shouldn't be in the game right now, that this is all BS. He said the only reason he is here is because Jaws left, but he knows he shouldn't be here, that it was his fate to get voted out. I really didn't know how to respond, but he is insisting that he won't work with me. He claims he is telling Rocky and Darth to have nothing to do with him and to play their own games. And he told me Luke is the one that filled him in, which Luke is NOT happy about. I can't tell if he is angling to do something or if he really is just planning to get voted out, but along the way, he is certainly trying to get some messages across. He apparently told Miyagi that his allies all want to vote him out because he is "super sketch." He apparently also started verbally berating Miyagi in their messages, which is pretty uncalled for. He told me that I'd better start working with Rocky, Luke, and Darth after he is gone because my "boy" Jason will cut my throat and because the people I've been voting with will vote me out after his alliance is gone. Not to mention, according to him, Rocky, Luke, and Darth are the only three real players left in the game worth playing with anyway. He said in real Survivor you fight to stay in the game, but in online games you just quit because mommy didn't pay the internet bill... that is me paraphrasing, but it's pretty close to how he said it. So yeah, melt down city. And guess what, I have no problem giving him what he's asking for. Hell, I was going to vote him out anyway, this just gives everyone one more reason to go through with it. The thing is, he has some valid points, and I'm not stupid. Jason very well COULD try to cut my throat at some point. It's why I'm already thinking about when I want to make a preemptive strike against him with someone else, like Miyagi, who I've already started planting the seeds of distrust toward Jason with... or I could go with Darth and Freddy... or I could go with Rocky or Luke or whoever... because I'm keeping my options open. I'm not resigned to voting with a single group for the rest of the game, and if that's what Clubber thinks my plan is, he's dead wrong. I've never played that way and I never will. Hell, I already voted out Hannibal. So, I'm hoping to get Clubber out of here ASAP and then I'll figure out where I want to go from there. But right now, I have safety in numbers, because I still have my core five from Skywalker. I still have Jason's reward. And I think Inigo and Freddy are voting with us. Aside from that, I also THINK the others realize protecting Clubber is a lost cause anyway. I think they are all looking toward the future at this point and hoping to find an in, which who knows... maybe I'll provide one or two of them with one at some point. |
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| Michael Myers | Jan 25 2017, 12:20 AM Post #59 |
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The funny thing is there was actually a part of me that thought "now that Jaws is gone, Clubber is starting to lose his power more and more. Maybe I should reconsider the next vote." But that was ruined by Luke, who ratted me out... which, in turn, hurts Luke. Like, there was no need to rat me out in that situation, when there was nothing that could be done to change the course of things anyway, but he did it, and it came back to bite him in the ass. And now, Clubber, instead of having a chance to get back into the game, is posting a "Public Confessional" throwing just about everyone but his cronies under the bus publicly, further confirming that we were all right about that crew being together in the first place. He's not doing any favors for his friends. His outbursts are having the opposite effect of what he hopes. I truly believe that all of this is a direct result of the Hannibal vote. Once we voted Hannibal out and merged so quickly, that whole bigger alliance just started to dissolve. |
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| Michael Myers | Jan 25 2017, 12:47 AM Post #60 |
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Wait, What? WTF??? So, after his long tirade where he all but quit, he is now messaging people IN JASON'S ALLIANCE asking them if they'll vote Jason out on Thursday. Superman and I both got a message about it. Not sure who else did. Apparently, from what he told me, Jason is "not who he claims to be" and my "comrades" have all deemed him the "new Hannibal" behind my back. He questioned whether or not that is someone I would really want to work with in the game. This could not be a more bizarre angle. Dude is straight up playing like he's in the twilight zone right now. In fact, he told me that Clubber Lang is dead. He is now MR. T. Nice to meet you, Mr. T. :rolleyes: Meanwhile, he apparently doesn't think that me and my "comrades" will talk about this in private and compare notes??? Also, didn't he just finish throwing me under the bus and calling me a "fake ass bitch?" And didn't he just say that he doesn't deserve to be in this game because he was only saved by Jaws quitting? O right, that wasn't Mr. T. That was Clubber. Clubber is dead. He told Miyagi that that "Public Confessional" was his funeral, but I guess by that, he meant it was CLUBBER'S funeral. Now, Mr. T has been born. I think this guy needs some psychiatric care. |
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