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Rob Zombie's Halloween; Micheal Myers' Life on Parade
Topic Started: Sep 2 2007, 06:54 PM (705 Views)
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And if you're waiting for me to weigh in, well, I have so little interest in Rob Zombie's pictures that I didn't even read the thread until just now. I hope they're good, though; we can always use more good pictures. They're just nothing I'd want to see.
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Stony Brooke da Mesquiteer
Sep 2 2007, 07:58 PM
Ken Foree is here as well as the actress who filled Karen Black's shoes as Madam Firefly in REJECTS. Also from REJECTS are William Forsythe and Danny Trejiola. Danny's name could well be misspelled.

Absent, as far as I could tell, from REJECTS are Micheal Berryman, Ginger Lynn and the chick who played Peewee's girlfriend in Peewee's Big Adventure... Yep that's her!

The Dickel will not let me remember her name!!

Peewee's girlfriend was played by Elizabeth Dailey who also does/did the voice of Tommy Pickles in the Rugrats cartoon, often seen on Nickelodeon, and the two Rugrats movies.

If I had a girlfriend that looked like her and had that voice, I'd be sizing her up for a girl scout oufit to play out a couple of fantasies, if you know what I mean....wink ;) wink ;) nudge <_< nudge <_< . :P :ph43r: :lol:
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Bonga... I've not seen nor read anything to suggest Zombie is facinated with Charles Manson. In fact, I would find that hard to believe unless I heard it from Zombie or saw it on his website (yeah, I go there every now and then). I would be willing to bet my ass that Zombie is facinated with Brava, Argento, Romero, Hooper and Craven and not a lunitic sociopath like Manson.

I think you missed the boat so to speak when it comes to 1000 CORPSES. I think the movie is funny. The film is nothing more than a horror hootenanny. I don't think the violence is overdone for a horror movie and I think it's rather lame. The king of the hootenanny had to be Fishboy. What a visual treat, along with Karen Black's greener than spinach teeth. When a movie starts out with a man in what appears to be clown make up applied by someone with the DT's, says to a gun totating robber, "F**k your mama!!! F**k your grandmama!!!" , I think that is a hoot.

Now when I stated that THE DEVIL'S REJECTS is a better movie than HOUSE/CORPSES I think it is, but REJECTS has some scenes in a motel that are brutal. There is no graphic violence but when I saw it at the theater I thought they were unsettling the same way the girl who is made to wet herself in LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT are unsettling. I saw some uncomfortable people in the theater that day. The second time I watched REJECTS on DVD I was still weirded out by the scenes.

Rob knows his horror movies from WHITE ZOMBIE to LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT to AUDITION. I saw Rob give his 2 cents worth about AUDITION on Bravo's 100 SCARIEST MOVIES. Rob said the movie made him feel uneasy if ya can believe that. I rented it and yeah I can believe it, because the sadistic villian is a petite, pretty Japanese girl who delivers the terror.

Rob Zombie came on the scene with a contrived moniker ala Alice Cooper but Rob is definately making a name for himself in the horror industry and he no longer needs a moniker.
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I have not seen the new Halloween yet tho a decent bootleg copy is going around my work. I'll probably wait for awhile and go to the local theater when it won't be crowded with kids.
So I popped in 1000 corpses for probably the 5th or 6th time this year. I enjoy almost everything about this film. It's got comedy , dark comedy, it's creepy,disturbing , somewhat gory,campy. I like the way it was shot. The different film styles. The stock footage thrown in. The soundtrack. Slim Whitman pipes in when the police find the shed with the bodies. The little things thrown in. Like when Tiny comes down to the basement and is eating a cereal called Agatha Crispies.
I found none of the characters likable,especially Mary. So when Baby chases her down in the bunny outfit and sinks that blade in her chest I was rootin for the killer.
I think the character of Otis was a mix various serial killers and his rantings DID sound like the stuff that Manson would spew out.
The only things I did not like about the film were A. Baby's laughter got a bit annoying. B. The ending was just way too convenient.
Devil's Rejects I have only seen twice but it will end up in my collection. And I agree that this is similar to the basic Western formula but definitely has ,IMO, influence from Natural Born Killers.
I realize that some of you don't care for the real violent horror but there are of course many types of horror ranging from old school /classic to downright brutal gore movies such as Hillside Cannibals. I happen to like some of the bloodier stuff. Nothing like comin home after a crappy day at work,stuck in a traffic jam and sitting down with a few beers to watch stupid people get killed. ;)
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Sep 16 2007, 10:38 AM

I found none of the characters likable,especially Mary. So when Baby chases her down in the bunny outfit and sinks that blade in her chest I was rootin for the killer.

Let me rephrase that. I found none of the kids likable.
Even tho she's gotta be 60 Karen Black is and has been a fave of mine for years. A re-make of Whatever happened to Baby Jane? Perfect!
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The only character I would classify as likable in Zombie's first two films is Sid Haig's Captain Spaulding. His perpetually pissed off character is extremely funny, and you get the feeling that all he wants is to be left alone. If the other murderous nutjobs weren't family, he probably wouldn't have anything to do with them.

I agree that the HOUSE OF 1000 CORPSES isn't very good; although the Captain Spaulding scenes are enjoyable.

THE DEVIL'S REJECTS, however, is a well-made film, albeit one that is not for everyone. It has a Sam Peckinpah feel--sort of a horror version of THE WILD BUNCH--in which the lawmen are every bit as despicable as the murderers that they are trailing.

Both films have disturbing moments that, like Lynch's BLUE VELVET, can be off-putting. Consequently, they should be approached with caution. I like these films, but to a large extent, I feel that I shouldn't.
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Sep 15 2007, 03:53 PM
I'll add another scene to it--how about the moment at the end of the original The Vanishing, when the hero flicks his lighter and discovers what it was all about?

I forgot that one..........veeerrrry creeeepy........

Anyhow after the last 20 comments on Rob Zombie I gave it some thought as to why do I like his take on horror......and that is there is a recurring frightening theme in all his films at one time or another during the movie and that is the age old nightmare scenerio of being inches away from freedom yet trapped and confined unable to escape....At one time or another we have had that nightmare ourselves where we are being chased by some boogeyman and we either keep falling or a door or window cannot be opened for any number of reasons...

in house of a thousand corpses he visited it a few times particularly in the end where the heroine is being chased by this leather wearing gasmasked freak. she is being persued through a labyrinth of tunnels and there is a shot in particular where there is a closeup of half of the girls face (in perfect focus) with the tunnel behind her (also in perfect focus ala the Citizen Kane dual focus) the gasmasked guy has just opened a door and he is clearly in the background as the girls eye darts back and forth nervously while she is obviously frozen in fear......It also rates as one of the most nerve wracking, scary moments along with my other scary moments.

In The Devils Rejects the characters are locked in a hotel room while the sun beats through the curtains, trapped by the baddies, we as the audience know they are scant feet away from freedom but cannot do anything about it...

And finally with hopefully not giving too much away from his recent foray into the "Halloween" mythology.....Michael Meyers brings Laure Strode back to the long abandoned Myers home into the basement. aside from some paying homage to one of the scenes out of the original, Zombie uses a great deal of shadow and darkness in this scene to build up the creepiness and eventually it builds where Laurie has to escape,,,and guess what, all exits are sealed off and she must claw her way out through a window, once again trapped with the Boogeyman a short distance away..

It is because he plays off of inner fears and things that make us wake up in a cold sweat to.

Oddly enough though the saga of House of a Thousand Corpses is a typically ironic Hollywood tale.....Rob Zombie had a distribution deal with Universal Pictures for the film and somewhere along the line Universal got cold feet saying the violence was way too much and dropped the picture. The film sat on the shelf for almost a year before Lionsgate decided to pick it up for a limited theatrical run and DVD release....

However due to the Box Office returns (even for limited run) and subsequent DVD revenues. numerous "Over the top" Horror films have graced the big screen, films like Saw (the first however is a rather well written story and twist ending) which has spawned 3 sequels (the third is being released very soon) Hostel (with sequel) Turistas and a film entitled Captive with Eliza Cuthbert (The Girl next door and 24)

The violence is not only way out there but much of it includes some rather sadistic metal devices that's only purpose is to cause pain...

If I want to experience that all I have to do is make an appointment with my Dentist. then he starts to talk politics while my mouth is contorted like Mr Sardonicus and gleaming like a richly veined silver mine....that's when the real horror show starts....

Rob Zombies work is actually tame by comparison.,....

anyhow just thought I would rabble on a little

till next
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