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| Topic Started: Sep 24 2007, 02:32 PM (1,039 Views) | |
| mort bakaprevski | Oct 21 2007, 09:35 AM Post #16 |
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Soony Roony!
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For what it’s worth?? Well, for me, it’s worth puh-lenty!! It’s always been one of my favorite cues ever since I first heard it years ago, as a tad, in ACE DRUMMOND. And it’s used twice in this film (the second time is when Kennedy is fighting his deputy in the attic). Boy, the Laemmles certainly got Waxman at his florid best. Louis B. Mayer, unfortunately, tamed him down a bit. Gee, just think. If he had stayed at Universal, he could have achieved true greatness… instead of winning Academy Awards & mundane things like that! Is SUTTER’S GOLD any good? I wouldn’t think it could be too bad with Arnold, Tracy & Barnes. Plus it’s also got Harry Carey & Nan Grey. I can understand why Universal would never release this on DVD, but are there any gray/black market versions around??? :ph43r: |
| “You’ve got to take the bitter with the sour.” | |
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| riddlerider | Oct 22 2007, 07:08 AM Post #17 |
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Balcony Gang, Foist Class
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SUTTER'S GOLD is good but not great. It has some tremendous sequences but is very episodic. Some parts of it seem to drag while others seem too short and choppy. The project's history is actually more interesting than the finished film; Universal invested years in SUTTER'S GOLD, to which several writers and directors were attached. At one point the studio announced to trade papers that Howard Hawks would be directing from a script by William Faulkner! It was a costly and difficult film to make, and as I recall it was a flop that helped sink the Laemmle regime. I don't think it's as bad a movie as some of its detractors would have you believe, but it's plainly a project that went awry at some point. The big problem is that too much historical and dramatic material is crammed into 96 minutes. It might have been a much different, and better, picture at three hours. Waxman's score is largely built around one "motif," a simple tune Sutter plays on a flute at the beginning of the picture. It's another of those scores that Universal's music department pillaged for years, using cues in B pictures and serials. Although it was released to TV in the Screen Gems package, SUTTER'S GOLD was never common in 16mm. It took me more than ten years to find a print. I imagine somebody must have transferred the thing to video at some point, but I'm not aware of any gray/black market versions. |
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| Chandu | Nov 1 2007, 05:31 PM Post #18 |
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Knowledge Seeker and rascal at large
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B-Man, thanks for the website. After visiting there, I'm now a hundred bucks poorer. In addition to the Crime Club flicks I found an old TV program I'd been looking for, for years, but I couldn't remember the name of it. I discovered it was called City of Angels and I remembered it starred Wayne Rogers. It only lasted one season, but he had it! He had somemore stuff I was interested in too, but this and what I Tivo off of TCM this month will keep me busy for awhile. |
| Not plane, nor bird, nor even frog. It's just little ol' me... | |
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| mort bakaprevski | Oct 8 2009, 01:45 PM Post #19 |
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Soony Roony!
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Brought to the top for Cliff. |
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| Zodiac | Oct 8 2009, 02:42 PM Post #20 |
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Balcony Gang, Foist Class
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Thank you- a good string= I enjoyed reading it |
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| cquigley | Oct 9 2009, 12:58 PM Post #21 |
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Balcony Gang, Foist Class
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I loved the postlogue music that is played as the credits are shown. I believe Universal used this music in other B's besides the Crime Club. Anybody know if this music is available anywhere? |
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| mort bakaprevski | Oct 18 2009, 02:11 PM Post #22 |
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Soony Roony!
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If you're speaking of the music that's played after the end & a good cast is repeated, it's dance music Frank Skinner wrote for the 1938 Universal film STRANGE FACES. He adapted it for the cast music and it has seen many arrangements. The editors at Universal continued to use it behind damn near every film made in the next couple of years. I'm surprised you mentioned it. The only film I could find it on in my Crime Club Collection was MYSTERY OF THE WHITE ROOM (the others stop after The End card)... and there it was only the first couple of bars before the film abruptly came to an end. Edited by mort bakaprevski, Oct 18 2009, 02:13 PM.
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| cquigley | Oct 19 2009, 01:41 PM Post #23 |
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Balcony Gang, Foist Class
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Thanks Mort! I don't have a Crime Club swlwctions in my collection. I remember the epilogue music from viewing these things on TV many times over the years. |
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