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| Topic Started: Aug 27 2009, 07:45 PM (102 Views) | |
| Laughing Gravy | Aug 27 2009, 07:45 PM Post #1 |
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Nobody has brought this subject up, so I guess I will. Yeah, I know... Talk about flawed heroes. But I took seriously what President Clinton said at Nixon's funeral... ya gotta look at the ENTIRE life. Senator Kennedy, for all his faults, served in the U.S. Senator for more than 1/5 of the time there HAS been a U.S. Senate... and every bill that has passed since 1963 that addresses the needs of the working, common folk, of which I certainly am one, has his fingerprints all over it. If FDR had been a Senator for 50 years, he would be Ted Kennedy. I worked on the Kennedy for President campaign in 1980, and met him once. I loathed Jimmy Carter then, and I loathe Carter now. Some folks have talked about how Kennedy should've been more gracious in defeat in 1980. My response to that: Carter should've been ashamed to live in the White House. There is no shame in disdaining that guy, the worst Democratic President ever (correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you have to go back well over 100 years to find a Democrat who failed to win re-election). Sorry, venting there. I've never forgiven Carter for being an ass. I am not Irish and I am not Catholic, but the Kennedy mystique had a powerful hold on me and have fueled a long interest in the Catholic religion and in overall faith. I am very glad one of the Kennedy men lived to a ripe old age, fulfilled the promise, and was around to hear the cheers and goodbyes from his loved ones. This is a better America now than it was before. Edited by Laughing Gravy, Aug 28 2009, 11:01 AM.
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| Zodiac | Aug 28 2009, 05:40 AM Post #2 |
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While I don't think this is the best forum for political stands- and I do share your feelings for Carter- Teddy Kennedy was a politician raised to the status of celebrity - hence the wall to wall coverage of his death. He did some good, he did some bad things- but he is dead and gone. Right now we are facing economic problems unseen for 60 years. We are facing unsustainable national debt and deficits. We are in crisis. The only good thing I see is that people are actually paying attention and raising hell- agree or not - everybody needs to get involved and work for a solution- and whether the "fringe" likes it or not- the only solution is a compromise, |
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| Pa Stark | Aug 28 2009, 09:19 AM Post #3 |
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Even though politically I didn't agree with Sen. Kennedy, what I did hear about him was that if you experienced tragedy, or problems in you personal life, Ted Kennedy was always the first person to be there for you. That is was really counts. |
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| mort bakaprevski | Aug 28 2009, 11:12 AM Post #4 |
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Now, why doesn't this surprise me?? |
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| panzer the great & terrible | Aug 29 2009, 03:55 AM Post #5 |
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There's a petition going around asking the Senate to pass universal health care in Kennedy's memory. I sent it to some of you. Please don't ignore it. This is a moral issue like civil rights. We are the only developed nation that still fails a significant percentage on healthcare. What we have now is uninsured jerks working the system by going to emergency rooms with even minor complaints, knowing the hospitals can't refuse them care. This has driven the price of hospitalization up for honest people. Universal health care would fix that. The problem is, the right has attempted to seize the debate with batty rants about "death panels." Truth is, we have death panels now: they're called insurance companies, and they have life-or-death power over every insured person. They can and do deny life-prolonging medication to millions daily. It's better for their bottom line if we don't stay alive, and if the government doesn't do something about it, who will? We've got to stop letting the right highjack every debate with hysterical scare tactics based on barefaced lies. Why the media pay attention to this increasingly daffy minority is one of life's mysteries. And let's hope the state of Massachusetts comes up with a decent new Senator pronto. |
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| Pa Stark | Aug 29 2009, 09:45 PM Post #6 |
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Adding to what I said above, Vice President Biden spoke yesterday about when he had that terrible tragedy when his wife was killed in an auto accident, and his two sons were injured, even though Sen. Kennedy only met him once before, he called him every day, and visited him at the hospital often. As for Panzer's comments, some of the best advice I ever received was from my father who told me to believe half of what you see, a quarter of what you read, and a quarter of what you hear. So I look at all claims with suspicion. |
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| panzer the great & terrible | Aug 30 2009, 11:17 AM Post #7 |
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All I can say to that is, if you don't trust your own eyes you're likely to get fooled. This talk about "right wing terrorists" is bull. What those folks are is gullible: they're falling for a line pushed by big companies, often foreign-owned, referred to in the media as "special interests." Why special? OUR interests don't matter to them. |
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