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Series & Sequels
Topic Started: Sep 19 2009, 07:14 AM (321 Views)
Laughing Gravy	Sep 19 2009, 07:14 AM Post #1
Revered in the UK Posts: 11,062 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: August 31, 2005	Somewhere or other on this silly board there's a discussion of movie series. Here's a complete list of all the series & sequels pictures we've shown on FNF since moving to the Westest Coast of All... 1999-2000 The Amazing Colossal Man Buck Privates Creature from the Black Lagoon Dracula (1931) Godzilla vs. the Thing Horsefeathers I Was a Teenage Werewolf The Mummy’s Hand The Raven (1963) War of the Colossal Beast The Wolf Man 2000-01 Pajama Party Clipped Wings (Bowery Boys) Charlie Chan at the Race Track Revenge of the Creature The Fly (1958) Frankenstein (1931) Bride of Frankenstein Son of Frankenstein Ghost of Frankenstein Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man House of Frankenstein House of Dracula Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein Hold That Ghost I Was a Teenage Frankenstein Jack and the Beanstalk King Kong vs. Godzilla The Mummy’s Tomb The Mummy (1959) 2001-02 Abbott and Costello Meet Captain Kidd Abbott and Costello meet the Mummy Back to the Beach Blues Busters (Bowery Boys) The Creature Walks Among Us Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1932) Son of Dracula How to Make a Monster King Kong The Mummy’s Ghost Return of the Fly 2002-03 Africa Screams How to Stuff a Wild Bikini Ghost Chasers (Bowery Boys) Horror of Dracula The Invisible Man The Mummy’s Curse Rodan Son of Kong WereWolf of London 2003-04 Ski Party Curse of Frankenstein Francis, the Talking Mule Frankenstein Bride of Frankenstein Gremlins The Devil Commands A Night at the Opera Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror Sherlock Holmes and the Secret Weapon Sherlock Holmes in Washington 2004-05 The Abominable Dr. Phibes Ghost in the Invisible Bikini Bowery Buckaroos Creature from the Black Lagoon Destroy All Monsters Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1932) Dr. Jekyll and Sister Hyde Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein Sherlock Holmes Faces Death Tarzan, the Ape Man Village of the Damned 2005-06 Beach Party The Bowery Boys meet the Monsters Dr. Phibes Rises Again Brides of Dracula Son of Frankenstein Hold That Ghost The Man with Nine Lives King Kong King Kong vs. Godzilla Duck Soup The Spider Woman Tarzan and his Mate 2006-07 The Amazing Colossal Man Muscle Beach Party Buck Privates Revenge of the Creature Ghost of Frankenstein I Was a Teenage Werewolf Calling Dr. Death Arabian Nights The Scarlet Claw The House of Fear Tarzan Escapes War of the Colossal Beast The Wolf Man 2007-08 Back to the Beach Horror of Dracula Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man I Was a Teenage Frankenstein Cobra Woman The Mummy (1932) The Noose Hangs High The Hound of the Baskervilles (1939) The Woman in Green Tarzan Finds a Son! Tarzan’s Secret Treasure Tremors When Dinosaurs Ruled the Earth 2008-09 Bikini Beach Dracula Prince of Darkness House of Frankenstein How to Make a Monster Horsefeathers Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves The Mummy’s Hand Pursuit to Algiers Tarzan’s New York Adventure Tremors 2: Aftershocks



CliffClaven	Sep 19 2009, 09:56 AM Post #2
Balcony Gang, Foist Class Posts: 229 Group: Members Member #712 Joined: March 30, 2009	Here we go again. What series includes When Dinosaurs Ruled the Earth? I'd be thrilled to know there are more movies with nude starlets and stop-motion dinos, both representing a high level of craftsmanship.



Laughing Gravy	Sep 19 2009, 09:59 AM Post #3
Revered in the UK Posts: 11,062 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: August 31, 2005	Well, the title of the thread should give it away... I count it as a sequel to One Million B.C. Doesn't everybody?



CliffClaven	Sep 19 2009, 10:09 AM Post #4
Balcony Gang, Foist Class Posts: 229 Group: Members Member #712 Joined: March 30, 2009	They're both Hammers, they're both prehistoric with neat effects and scantily clad babes, but is there another connection? Otherwise, you could count Jack the Giant Killer as a sequel to Seventh Voyage of Sinbad.



Laughing Gravy	Sep 19 2009, 03:24 PM Post #5
Revered in the UK Posts: 11,062 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: August 31, 2005	Isn't that enough of a connection?



CliffClaven	Sep 19 2009, 07:43 PM Post #6
Balcony Gang, Foist Class Posts: 229 Group: Members Member #712 Joined: March 30, 2009	Welllll, it gets real tricky real fast. Charlie Chan and Mr. Moto were similar enough that you could take a Chan script and make it into a Moto picture with minimal fuss -- even leaving in Number One Son -- but I wouldn't call them the same series. Nor would I consider Sherlock Holmes one of the Universal Monsters, despite sharing the same sets, actors, musical cues and stock footage (Son of Dracula plays the Holmes opening title theme under Lon Chaney's death scene; Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman borrows the main Holmes director and even has Dennis Hoey as a blustery inspector; Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror includes a train wreck from the Invisible Man -- famously leaving in the shot of switches being pulled by invisible hands). In the last debate somebody set a standard involving a continuing character (as opposed to an actor playing highly similar roles): Karloff played a lot of mad scientists, but each one was clearly understood to be no relation to the last one -- no matter how much of the script was recycled. The Monster, meanwhile, was emphatically the same creature Victor Frankenstein brought to life in the first film, even if Karloff, Lugosi, Chaney and Strange all took turns wearing the makeup. Also, if you want to be really strict, an approximation of continuity: If the Mummy sinks in a swamp in the one film, the next film has to show him rising from a swamp -- never mind that the second film is set a few thousand miles away. Certain allowances are made for villains and monsters not staying dead, and you can mess with relationships a little (James Bond girls are either killed off or simply forgotten by the next installment; other continuing characters -- especially authority figures -- implausibly forget that every series hero from Holmes to Harry Potter was ALWAYS RIGHT in ALL the previous films). It's amazing how verbose I get when I'm trying to avoid doing something useful.



Laughing Gravy	Sep 19 2009, 10:04 PM Post #7
Revered in the UK Posts: 11,062 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: August 31, 2005	Ah, but you forget, I'm a quotable expert. So yes, the 8 Roger Corman/Edgar Allan Poe films and the 5 Boris Karloff "Mad Scientist" films for Columbias are both series, and those two Hammer stop-action dinosaur films belong to each other.



Chandu	Sep 20 2009, 01:38 PM Post #8
Knowledge Seeker and rascal at large Posts: 10,266 Group: Members Member #297 Joined: October 19, 2007	CliffClaven Sep 19 2009, 07:43 PM Welllll, it gets real tricky real fast. Charlie Chan and Mr. Moto were similar enough that you could take a Chan script and make it into a Moto picture with minimal fuss -- even leaving in Number One Son -- but I wouldn't call them the same series. Nor would I consider Sherlock Holmes one of the Universal Monsters, despite sharing the same sets, actors, musical cues and stock footage (Son of Dracula plays the Holmes opening title theme under Lon Chaney's death scene; Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman borrows the main Holmes director and even has Dennis Hoey as a blustery inspector; Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror includes a train wreck from the Invisible Man -- famously leaving in the shot of switches being pulled by invisible hands). In the last debate somebody set a standard involving a continuing character (as opposed to an actor playing highly similar roles): Karloff played a lot of mad scientists, but each one was clearly understood to be no relation to the last one -- no matter how much of the script was recycled. The Monster, meanwhile, was emphatically the same creature Victor Frankenstein brought to life in the first film, even if Karloff, Lugosi, Chaney and Strange all took turns wearing the makeup. Also, if you want to be really strict, an approximation of continuity: If the Mummy sinks in a swamp in the one film, the next film has to show him rising from a swamp -- never mind that the second film is set a few thousand miles away. Certain allowances are made for villains and monsters not staying dead, and you can mess with relationships a little (James Bond girls are either killed off or simply forgotten by the next installment; other continuing characters -- especially authority figures -- implausibly forget that every series hero from Holmes to Harry Potter was ALWAYS RIGHT in ALL the previous films). It's amazing how verbose I get when I'm trying to avoid doing something useful. A great post, trumped by the dreaded quotable expert card!
	Not plane, nor bird, nor even frog. It's just little ol' me...


Stony Brooke da Mesquiteer	Sep 20 2009, 01:57 PM Post #9
Balconeer Creeper Posts: 14,166 Group: Members Member #244 Joined: July 6, 2007	Chandu A great post, trumped by the dreaded quotable expert card! In my deck it's called The Joker.
	"She's got style, she's got grace She's got long, long legs, she's got... Savoir Faire"


CliffClaven	Sep 20 2009, 04:43 PM Post #10
Balcony Gang, Foist Class Posts: 229 Group: Members Member #712 Joined: March 30, 2009	Will Cuppy had a great footnote reply to experts in "How to Become Extinct" or "How to Tell Your Friends from the Apes", but it escapes me at the moment. I'll just leave it there and see if anybody admits to being old and eccentric enough to know Will Cuppy.



Laughing Gravy	Sep 20 2009, 08:17 PM Post #11
Revered in the UK Posts: 11,062 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: August 31, 2005	I don't. Don't forget "intangibles". The Columbia Karloffs are very similar - with interchangeable titles - so they count as a series. I don't much consider the Monogram Lugosi films as a series, particularly because two of the are Dead End Kids movies.



Sgt Saturn	Sep 21 2009, 07:34 AM Post #12
Charter Member Posts: 5,720 Group: Members Member #11 Joined: September 3, 2005	How about the Hope/Crosby "Road" pictures? They basically all the same movie with the characters' names and location changed to give a little variety. At the same time, if you had recast one of these scripts, there would be nothing to connect it with any of the previous.
	The Ol' Sarge


Laughing Gravy	Sep 21 2009, 08:51 AM Post #13
Revered in the UK Posts: 11,062 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: August 31, 2005	Absolutely they're a series.



CliffClaven	Sep 21 2009, 02:49 PM Post #14
Balcony Gang, Foist Class Posts: 229 Group: Members Member #712 Joined: March 30, 2009	Mary Poppins, Bedknobs & Broomsticks, and Pete's Dragon: -- Similar Disney DNA -- Similar casting (female leads known better for non-screen work at that point; familiar comic character actors; perky kids) -- Similar posters and logos -- The second two are very, very clearly meant as follow-ups to the first. So, do they constitute a series?



Laughing Gravy	Sep 21 2009, 03:31 PM Post #15
Revered in the UK Posts: 11,062 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: August 31, 2005	Of course not. Show me a studio that DIDN'T do "similar DNA, casting, posters, logos" after a film made a mint. You'd soon be claiming all RKO "noirs" were a series. The films are similar, but not a series. Good question, though. Question for YOU... Is Zombies on Broadway a sequel to I Walked with a Zombie???


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