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Rating the DVD Releases of Sound Serials; Best picture and sound quality available on DVD
Topic Started: Jun 16 2014, 07:30 AM (21,466 Views)
LaneCarson
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In regard to CheezyFlicks Jesse James Rides Again ...
Anyone read the relevant thread from a few months back?
Anyone here also a subscriber to the Cliffhangers Message Board, and noticed the input from posters there about it?
Trev
Edited by LaneCarson, Jun 24 2014, 01:03 AM.
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rodney
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I thought it was determined that other purchasers here didn't have the same problems that you had?

My copy of Jesse James Rides Again is a two disc laserdisc transfer that I picked up at a nostalgia convention about 10 years ago. It looks just fine. I think it came from Satellite Media Productions?

I'd rank it an easy 8.
Edited by rodney, Jun 24 2014, 04:49 AM.
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LaneCarson
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Is the implication that because it only happened to me that it doesn't count?
Or that I'm dishonestly representing CheezyFlicks' merchandise?

Two Posts to the Cliffhangers Message Board are copied (unedited) below:
7th May, 2014:
"I bought a couple years ago the set from Cheezy for $5 or $6 through amazon. 2 disc set and not a bad copy for the price I paid. NO jerky movements, scenes or missing parts as you would get from another dealer. Ask Cheezy if it is on DVD or DVD-r. I have to check.
Someone commented in the forum "on the balcony" that it is copied from the VHS. I cannot tell because I do not see any lines at the bottom as you would w. a regular transfer. My ch 11 or 12 repeats the opening scene, which one argued that it proves it is from tape. I thought that the laser disc wz damaged. I have to take very close look at it to see.
I probably could have done a better job if I had the tape or LD but the price was cheap enough compared to the $$$ on the LD/VHS. The transfer depends upon the equipment not just the source.
I liked JJR far better than the Ghost of Zorro. I'm not sure that if I saw a better quality of GZ that it would help.
I accidentally damaged my JJR Disc1 but wz able to work through it and Thank God the important features wz not damaged. Those vobs are ok. Yes still playable!!!!!
Michael"




Then on the 8th May:
",MY COPIES ARE ON 2 PRESSED DVD NOT DVDR-/+. I AM NOT A SPOKESPERSON FOR CHEEZY EITHER. HOWEVER IT IS A NICE COPY EXCEPT FOR THE FLAW IN CH12.

The flaw starts after the oil is capped and then goes back 1 min 2x or 3x times. I have looked closely at it and see no evidence of vhs transfer. no lines, no drop outs, no tracking errors. even when is goes in reverse and the frame bar comes up no lines period. This would be very odd for a tape transfer. One ought to see lines or tracking error message. I have done several tape transfers and never have I see an error like the above. Therefore I do not know what happened. Perhaps they fixed it now. When enlarged on computer screen it is a little soft on picture but that my be a source as well.

If you want the best quality then Trevor Scott probably is the one to go to. If you can find JJRA (cheezy) cheap then buy it. Or buy a quality DVD-recorder, video stabilizer and laserdisc machine, LD, then do it yourself.

Michael"


Neither posts are by me and my earlier post here indicated a Cliffhangers Thread carried further info
My posts within the CheezyFlicks Jesse Janes Rides Again thread on this website, indicated further " Issues" with Disc No. 2 - these were confirmed by posts from others within the thread
Why not check out the relevant thread - it's only a couple of months old?
Trev
Edited by LaneCarson, Jun 24 2014, 04:59 AM.
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LaneCarson
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Is the purpose of this thread, to rank DVD or Laserdisc releases?
Trev
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rodney
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Considering that I purchased a DVD of a laserdisc transfer, it's relevant.

And if you have issues with the rating of the Cheezy release, take it up with The Batman.

Seriously, calm down. It's just a DVD.

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Rodney
Apologies - missed the words: "laserdisc transfer"
Sorry for the misread and please ignore my most recent post

But my earlier post about the problems with Cheezy Flicks JJ Rides Again are neither dishonest nor misrepresentative of the facts involved .... And have been confirmed by others

My posts to the Cheezy Flucks Jesse James Rides Again thread never provided an opinion on the matters raised - I simply provided some info about the DVD set which I received here, by way of an alert
(My standard policy in any Message Board posts is to never mention my prints nor my website)

To my knowledge The Batman hasn't rated the serial as yet
At this stage, he's requesting input - which I am attempting to provide - being careful to not offer an opinion of the relative merits of Cheezy Flicks release
Am I correct in this determination, Bats?
Trev
Edited by LaneCarson, Jun 24 2014, 05:42 AM.
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Bats,
Something you might want to add about "Burn Em Up Barnes" is that Alpha Video has the best copy of this serial presently available. A really nice print.............
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Frank Hale~ Could you please define your post from June 21st? I don't know whether to take your comments seriously or as a joke. If you're joking, then all is well. If you're serious, I have a problem with it.

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LG~ I hate to be a pest about this, but an older print can have a beautifully sharp picture and also have scratches and rub marks. It's still sharp as a tack despite those flaws. Riddle Rider tried explaining this to you but gave up. Yes, a print can be an older one and have great loss in sharpness. It could also have problems with contrast, brightness and ghosting. But there are still definitely several older and worn prints around where the overall picture is still very sharp and a pleasure to watch despite the wear marks like Trev's SECRET OF TREASURE ISLAND.

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Hey Bats~ You've suggested a lot of titles for us to consider, but you're not offering your own grading on any of them. Just because you're recording all this info doesn't mean that you're free of your duty to put your grading in too.

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Hi LG~ I think you should check the Internet Archive. Search video for THE VANISHING SHADOW. Select the first listing and put it on full screen. If this is what someone sent you, I can understand you rating it a 6. The original version from the SS either analog or digital is far better and deserves a higher rating. I don't understand how you could rate something without knowing the source anyhow. Considering that this title was first released in analog, you are probably looking at a 3rd or 4th generation copy which would account for your low rating.

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Bats,
Deadwood Dick is probably imho the best Columbia Western Serial and it's only available thru the Grey Markets. The copy I have is almost pristine and I can't remember if I got from Richard Orsak or Fred Shay. It's a DVD-r on 3 Discs and I'd rate this one a solid 8.5 out of 10.
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Sorry, everyone, extremely busy today, but I will get back and answer/update based on all the latest posts, ASAP.

Thanks again, for all the help!



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Jun 23 2014, 05:56 PM
I'll weigh in on Tim Tyler's Luck: 8. Includes trailers for The Oregon Trail, Riders of Death Valley, and Cap'n Video.

Zorro's Black Whip (VCI, 1 DVD): 7. Includes the trailer, plus one for SOS Coast Guard and bios.

Zorro's Fighting Legion (VCI, 1 DVD): 8. Includes trailers for a plethora of vintage TV shows from VCI.

Zorro Rides Again VCI, 1 DVD): 8. Includes trailers for this one plus Adventures of Red Ryder. All three Zorros are in one boxed set.


Since there's been a few posts since my last update, I'll tackle then one at a time.

I've added the trailer names for Tim Tyler's luck, thanks.

And I've decided to try a new rating system, which will be a little more work for me, but hopefully more represents the average rating around here.

For example: Tim Tyler's Luck so far has three ratings, two ratings of 8 and one rating of 6, sooo 8 + 8 + 6 = 22/3 (number of votes) = 7.3, which is now the updated rating for TTL. If someone else adds their rating, I'll update the average.

I plan to go back through the thread, so far, and update any other ratings based on this system. Any thoughts?

I figure that this helps get a better average rating. So, now someone with a rating mindset like Frank, won't be terribly disappointed that the serial rated a 7.3 was only a 6 in his mind, the rating is a lot closer than and 8 or 9. And those with a rating mindset along the lines of LG and Willie, will be pleasantly surprised that a serial rated 7.3 is actually an 8 or 9 in their eyes. Hopefully, everybody wins.

I've added your updates for ZBW and ZRA, but am holding off on the VCI version of ZFL, as I had always heard the SS version was the best. If others feel different, please post and I'll make the change.

Every vote counts.



PS - also added that Secret Agent X-9 ('45) lobby card poster bonus.


Edited by The Batman, Jun 24 2014, 04:01 PM.
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LaneCarson
Jun 23 2014, 10:26 PM
In regard to CheezyFlicks Jesse James Rides Again ...
Anyone read the relevant thread from a few months back?
Anyone here also a subscriber to the Cliffhangers Message Board, and noticed the input from posters there about it?
Trev

Trev,

I have the first release of Cheezy Flicks version of JESSE JAMES RIDES AGAIN, and though I watched it way back when (it was released in 2008) I don't recall any of the technical glitches that you have described. I'm not saying they aren't there, I just don't recall them. If we can get a couple of more people to vouch for their existence, I will definitely note them.

Also, if people offer up a better version for the chart, I will certainly update that, as well.


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