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| riddlerider | Dec 2 2014, 05:24 PM Post #31 |
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Balcony Gang, Foist Class
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I don't want to prolong unnecessarily this digression from the ratings thread, and I certainly don't want anybody to think I'm being gratuitously rancorous, but I gotta call williejg out for what I consider disingenuous remarks. I've lost count of the number of times willie has come here to say, essentially, that our lives would be so much richer if only we'd give Eric a pass for his past transgressions and rejoin the Squadron to effect some grand reconciliation of serial fandom — or, at least, the Squadron's iteration of it. The reaction to such remarks is always the same. Always. Following the predictable denunciations of Eric, willie always apologizes for roiling the waters and promises he won't do it again. Then, a few months later, he does. And the cycle repeats itself. It's become a tiresome passive-aggressive routine. While I'm at it, what also has gotten old is willie's repeated contention — sometimes implicit in his remarks, sometimes clearly stated — that Eric's detractors voluntarily left the Squadron and therefore could patch things up if only they would swallow their pride and return. Well, a lot of those folks, myself included, didn't leave but were summarily banned. Grood was pretty clear about not wanting us around (dissenting voices were never very welcome on the Squadron board). |
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| panzer the great & terrible | Dec 2 2014, 09:00 PM Post #32 |
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Precisely. If you disagree with Eric you're an un-person. He's so friggin' stupid he won't even let you buy the few things of his you might want. A maroon. |
| Life is just a bowl of cherries, it's too mysterious, don't take it serious... | |
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| williejg | Dec 3 2014, 11:00 AM Post #33 |
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Balcony Gang, Foist Class
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I'll give you one thing Riddle Rider--You've got a lot of nerve telling me that my remarks have been insincere. And I might as well add Panzer in on that for agreeing with you. Nothing could be farther from the truth than that comment. Oh, and I do love your fancy choice or words for that comment so that it does't sound like the slap in the face that it is! So you got banned and aren't one of those that left voluntarily. Big goddamn deal! You probably got banned for a good reason, just as I got banned from Todd's boards. Who cares? And if you aren't one of those that left voluntarily, you don't even belong in this conversation. You just want to piss and moan about me trying to get people to reconcile something that shouldn't have happened in the first place. We're adults, not children, and should learn to get over petty differences. Time heals all if we let it. This situation came up due to Eric's intended release of 12 Mascot and Independent serials in a far superior quality then has ever been seen before. Eric knows that I have been posting here and in contact with a few of those that just chose to leave. He told me to let them know that his ban on selling his product to them was lifted, as well as his ban on them posting at the SS. So the opportunity to tell everyone that was here and I used it. Now all I'm getting is negativity for it. Where are the good guys to step up and support me on this? Where are Pa Stark, Barcroft, HIYO SILVER, Black Tiger, Bulldog Drummond, etc.? Just reading this and not wanting to stick your necks out and get involved? We're all friends here, and there shouldn't be all of this digression. It's a pretty sorry state of affairs if you guys don't step up and back me up. You've all complained about not being able to buy Doc's product. But now that he's opened that door again I'd like to see some support rather than negativity. And as far as you guys being able to post at the SS again, you don't have to worry about getting kicked out or having posts deleted by Doc as I am the new Administrator of the boards. I'm not sure what I'll do if you try posting Riddle Rider. Time will tell. LOL!! willie |
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| Pa Stark | Dec 3 2014, 11:30 AM Post #34 |
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Willie, the reason I haven't spoken up is because I am so good at sticking both feet in my mouth in situations like this. I really cringe when I seen serial fans go to war with each other. Guys, we are only dealing with only old movie serials. Peace. Willie, you know I consider you, along with everyone else here to be my friend. Edited by Pa Stark, Dec 3 2014, 11:31 AM.
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| rodney | Dec 3 2014, 01:31 PM Post #35 |
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Um, Riddle Rider IS one of the good guys. You'd do well to encourage his full participation. |
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| Laughing Gravy | Dec 3 2014, 02:22 PM Post #36 |
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I'll get this cleaned up and into a new thread. Meanwhile, it's making me laugh uproariously. You are surely aware, Willie, that that numbnuts Eric insists that serials that he's added music, sound effects, color sizzle, and new credits to are "in a far superior quality then has ever been seen before," right? |
| "I'm glad that this question came up, because there are so many ways to answer it that one of them is bound to be right." - Robert Benchley | |
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| panzer the great & terrible | Dec 3 2014, 02:35 PM Post #37 |
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willie, I don't tell you what to do or what to say and I'd appreciate it if you'd return the courtesy. I quit the Squadron for good reasons and nothing has changed since then. Grood has issued a few excellent DVDs but others that are not so excellent. He has lost his temper in print again and again, and has shown disrespect to people I like, often behind their backs, including everyone in this discussion but you and the Bat-mensch. Life is too short to fool with a person who does such things. Just speaking for myself -- you do as you please, but a friendly word: watch your back. |
| Life is just a bowl of cherries, it's too mysterious, don't take it serious... | |
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| Laughing Gravy | Dec 3 2014, 02:48 PM Post #38 |
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Okay, I'm pretty sure I moved the pertinent stuff out of the rating thread and into this one, let me know if I didn't. I'll just add to my previous harsh but deserved words that rather than offering a pardon, Eric should offer an apology. He screwed people and lied about them and now he's in effect saying he forgives us for what he's done. Fuck 'im. |
| "I'm glad that this question came up, because there are so many ways to answer it that one of them is bound to be right." - Robert Benchley | |
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| The Batman | Dec 3 2014, 05:33 PM Post #39 |
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Thanks, LG, really appreciate the effort. I'll take a look, but I'm pretty sure you cleaned it up real nice. |
| Always be yourself! Unless you can be Batman...then always be Batman! | |
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| El Shaitan | Dec 3 2014, 06:35 PM Post #40 |
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Balcony Gang, Foist Class
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I joined the squadron when laughing gravy and Panzer were part of it and it was fun and informative but sliped badly when grood alienated everyone, haven't visited in a long time but I now find a dreary place. I'll stay in the balcony it's much better |
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| Barcroft | Dec 3 2014, 07:32 PM Post #41 |
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Williejg, I've stayed out of the fray because I didn't want to throw more gasoline on the fire. You and I have had conversations and you know my feelings towards Eric and for the most part haven't changed. Personally, I appreciate you taking the time to let the guys know about the upcoming Mascots that Eric is going to release but a lot of us who prefer to post here still have bad tastes in our mouths from past dealings with him, With the exception of Pa Stark none of the guys at my Serial Family Chat room plan on purchasing any of the serials that he plans on releasing. Barcroft |
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| williejg | Dec 4 2014, 01:25 PM Post #42 |
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OK guys~ Points made and accepted. But Bart, please explain to me why HIYO would have liked to arrange a trade with me for a SS DVD, when his reason for it was because Doc wouldn't sell to him any more. That tells me that he would have purchased it from Doc had he been able to. So now that the sales ban has been lifted, you guys in the Family are going to pass up tremendous upgrades of prints that have always been less than great prints? Well, that's your business, and I could care less if you decide to purchase them or not. I was simply passing on information to keep you guys informed. I'm not going to hate you if you don't purchase them. It's simply your business to do as you please. And Panzer, You say that you don't tell me what to do and that I shouldn't tell you what to do. Well, guess what? I have never told you what to do. I have tried to be friendly with you in the past, but your sarcastic remarks often make that difficult. Of course, on a few occasions you have been amenable to me also. But it was a comment of yours that started me going on this thread. If you'll check post 13 of this thread, you'll see that you make a comment about being on Doc's Hecklist. That's what prompted me to go over the new rules about purchases from the SS and making posts there. This whole thread then escalated to where it is now. I'm sorry to point the finger, but it's just a fact and not intended to call you a bad guy. You were just stating a fact, just as I'm just stating a fact. There is no accusatory intention in my comment. It's just a fact that without that comment, this thread may have never turned into what it has. This thread is just useless to us making any progress, and for the life of me I have no idea of how to end it without pissing everyone off. Can we just put this thread to bed and say that we're all still friends? willie |
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| riddlerider | Dec 4 2014, 02:21 PM Post #43 |
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Well, the likelihood of me returning to the Squadron is slightly less than nil, so you needn't spend any time wondering. I'm one of the guys about whom Eric flat-out lied. Not once, not twice, but numerous times. I won't bother to repeat the lies because they've all been documented here in other threads. Since becoming convinced that he suffers from some kind of personality disorder, I've tried to put his past behavior in its proper context and forget about it. Unlike some here, I've never been tempted to rejoin the Squadron under another name. I just don't care about the place anymore. I do think it's a shame that Eric betrayed Jim D'Arc — whom I consider a friend — by releasing Daredevils of the West, but since Jim doesn't want to make a stink there's no reason for me to get my panties in a bunch about it. I have it on unimpeachable authority that Eric declined an invitation to attend last year's PulpFest with a mutual friend because he was convinced that, as one of the convention organizers, I would not permit him to set up in the dealers room and might even call the cops to have him ejected if he made an appearance. You can't reason with someone who exhibits that degree of paranoia. So it's easy to say "time heals all wounds," but that's not always the case. Like I said before, I feel sorry for Eric. I've lost both my parents so I know what kind of pain he's in. I would have e-mailed my condolences, but he blocked me from contacting him years ago. Edited by riddlerider, Dec 4 2014, 02:37 PM.
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| panzer the great & terrible | Dec 4 2014, 05:39 PM Post #44 |
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Unfortunately, Eric has paranoia the way some houses have mice. |
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| williejg | Dec 5 2014, 01:47 PM Post #45 |
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Balcony Gang, Foist Class
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Riddle Rider~ I added that sentence about what I would do if you tried to post at the SS as a joke, to try and lighten my post. Hence the LOL!! Of course I know that you will never try to post there again. What I do take offense at is your comment about how you've lost count at the number of times I've tried to prompt you guys to rejoin the SS. The fact of the matter is that it's probably only been about 3-4 times, maybe 5. You make it sound like it's been dozens of times. The last time I drew your attention I had only notified you guys of Grood's latest release, which I thought might interest you. You gave me a lecture on how you didn't care what Grood does anymore. All I wanted to do was keep you informed, not convert you back to being SS members again. And as far as this thread goes, I did not start it. Pa Stark started it with the announcement of the new titles that Doc was planning on releasing, as he had just joined the pledge drive for them. I only replied where necessary. Then Panzer asked how he could watch serial chapters online if he was on Doc's Hecklist. I simply replied to his question, which required that I make note of Doc's willingness to let you guys purchase his product and post at his site again. And in your eyes that made me out as going on another campaign to get you guys to rejoin the SS, and that I was insincere. Nothing could be further from the truth. Then last night I tried putting an end to this ridiculous thread so we could stop bickering and all be friends and let the status quo be as is. But no, you wouldn't let it go that easily and had to have another word, so I've added another word too. And with said, I hope to be done with this thread. willie |
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