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| Frank Hale | Oct 19 2017, 01:55 PM Post #46 |
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"Unfailingly likable" is a good way to put it. Another Avery cartoon I really like, from the same period and for the same reasons, is "Ain't We Got Fun", which I think, DVD-wise, has shown up only as an extra on "The Life of Emile Zola". Also very much in need of restoration. (As a cat-lover, I may be prejudiced.) |
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| thadk | Oct 19 2017, 02:02 PM Post #47 |
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Avery has been criminally underrepresented since the DVDs started. Only a smattering of his WB cartoons were on the Golden Collections, and of the MGMs there was only the Droopy collection. They're all over the place as extras on the WB/MGM live-action movies, but those don't count. Really missed the boat with Tex's centennial in 2008. |
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| Laughing Gravy | Oct 27 2017, 05:54 AM Post #48 |
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Mark Evanier's review of the Porky Pig set, which I only link to because I agree 100%. (Well, except that the set I have is a true DVD, not DVD-R.) https://www.newsfromme.com/2017/10/26/bring-home-bacon/ |
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| thadk | Oct 27 2017, 11:11 AM Post #49 |
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98% perfect. Right. He must've picked up on some of Stan Lee's famous math (you know, putting a bullshit percentage on what exactly Jack Kirby contributed to Marvel Comics while under oath to justify not giving his kids money). Since the cartoons were not going to be restored, the set was never going to be perfect—just "acceptable" at best.
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| thadk | Oct 27 2017, 11:20 AM Post #50 |
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BTW, people are really late to the party reviewing this thing. It's been out for almost a month-and-a-half. None of the major review sites have picked up on it. Maybe it's for the best WA never sent out review copies... does anyone think this would pass the acid test from those sticklers at blu-ray.com and DVD Beaver? |
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| Laughing Gravy | Oct 27 2017, 04:51 PM Post #51 |
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I absolutely think it would. No disrespect, but I haven't seen a bad review of it from anybody but you. |
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| thadk | Oct 27 2017, 07:06 PM Post #52 |
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No disrespect taken. But these reviews aren't from technical guys (I respect Maltin, but he's always a little too generous; no comment on Evanier). I sincerely doubt the sites I mentioned would give the dirt, emulsion scratches, film weave, nitrate decomposition, jump splices, and the audio lameness a free pass when those sites nitpick releases that actually did have money and full HD behind them. Glenn Erickson at DVD Savant gave it a pass, but he did note every single issue, which is shocking since he never gets into anything negative. I think it does a disservice to downplay the issues because they're legitimate concerns and are indicative that the wrong people worked on this. Since the sales were good enough that they're now sold out of the pressed copies (all future ones will be DVD-R), maybe now the hysteria against the critics can stop and we can calmly address how these issues happened and how to prevent them on the next sets.
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| JazzGuyy | Oct 28 2017, 04:55 AM Post #53 |
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Thadk, have you or anyone else you are familiar with directed your criticisms directly to George Feltenstein at Warner Archive? I am curious as to how he or others there might respond. |
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| thadk | Oct 28 2017, 06:48 AM Post #54 |
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They haven't publicly commented, but they are aware of the issues , they will not be fixing them for this release, and they will not be offering replacements. Not sure why, since this is a MOD release and they've done corrections for other commercial sets in the past, and I think since so many are just fine with the sloppy work they probably would get what, fifty people to do the exchange?
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| Laughing Gravy | Nov 4 2017, 07:01 AM Post #55 |
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There's a review of it up at DVD Talk. |
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| Laughing Gravy | Nov 7 2017, 12:15 PM Post #56 |
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Greenbriar: http://greenbriarpictureshows.blogspot.com/2017/10/lots-of-porkys-on-this-plate.html?m=1 |
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| The Batman | Nov 7 2017, 01:07 PM Post #57 |
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What a rambling, inarticulate review. I had to stop reading it. Usually he is pretty good, though I have noticed over the years his grammar and sentence structure could use an editor. |
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| Laughing Gravy | Nov 7 2017, 06:25 PM Post #58 |
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I've always liked his writing style. If I had more time to ramble, I would. Well, except Mr. Hale suggested I keep my synopsiseses shorter. |
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| rodney | Nov 8 2017, 04:50 AM Post #59 |
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I actually think that John is one of the finest writers on the topic going right now. I never have issues with his writing style. His books are essential as well. Although, as always, I'm dismayed at the way people excuse glaring mistakes on sets of cartoons that would never fly with movies. We collectively praise a guy for restoring Daredevils of the Red Circle, but condemn him for wishing an ounce of the same care was put into a set of cartoons. That says something. I'm just not sure what. Oh well. I think we've beaten that dead horse back to life and then death again. Edited by rodney, Nov 8 2017, 04:54 AM.
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| The Batman | Nov 8 2017, 08:28 AM Post #60 |
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Did you guys read the same article I did? The one I read was full of grammatical errors and definitely needed an editorial polish for clarity. I hope his books are edited better. |
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