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Topic Started: Aug 27 2017, 01:55 PM (884 Views)
Rudy
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Sierra,

If Julie claims it was her idea why did I have to work so hard to convince her to do it the next vote? Todd thinks it was his idea but the night Bubba was voted out I told both Todd and Zeke Ozzy was dangerous for orchestrating Bubba's blindside and suggested he needed to go. Now that's not to say that all three of us knew he was a threat but I saw Ozzy as an existential threat and likely my ticket home if he didn't go next and I started pushing for it immediately. That is how I remember it.

I'm going to be interested in how Julie remembers it.
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Rudy,Aug 27 2017
05:56:40 PM
Sierra,

If Julie claims it was her idea why did I have to work so hard to convince her to do it the next vote? Todd thinks it was his idea but the night Bubba was voted out I told both Todd and Zeke Ozzy was dangerous for orchestrating Bubba's blindside and suggested he needed to go. Now that's not to say that all three of us knew he was a threat but I saw Ozzy as an existential threat and likely my ticket home if he didn't go next and I started pushing for it immediately. That is how I remember it.

I'm going to be interested in how Julie remembers it.

I was on that same page. After Bubba was gone - Ozzy took a sip out of the Dave/Adam/Bubba goblet of power. And Ozzy could not stay in the game....I think many of us were on board with that vote. Not sure there was anyone person who initiated that move. Unless there are time stamps, Brobst. lol
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Ozzy was the driver in my opinion to get Bubba out. He laid it at my and Todd's feet and we went along with it so as to avoid a tie, so our two votes were what decided that rather than having it be a tie.

I think Todd can claim the same amount of credit as Julie for the Ozzy vote or maybe more. From my vantage point, he was really pushing for it. Remember Julie was close with Ozzy, so I don't believe her totally that she "woke up" and realized that he needed to be voted out. I think that Todd pushed her to do it, in combination with Rudy. I was pretty absent that weekend with some IRL stuff unfortunately. But Todd sent like 3 messages throughout that Saturday on how it was going, pushing for voting out Ozzy. So I'd give him a lot of credit for that vote.

And in general, Julie was involved in so many of people's games, and voted the right way throughout. But Todd also voted correctly throughout. So for each round, I don't think anyone can get 100% of the credit, since it takes more than one vote to get anyone out. Both of them were heavily involved in each of us getting voted out.

Just offering my perspective a little bit on some of those items.
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Remember those convos you and I had late in the game?
For much of the game I thought You were the one in charge
and that Julie was just your henchman when you could convince her to follow you.
Which is why since you weren't on My alliance
both Todd as the largest well-liked challenge threat
and You as the most (in my mind) strategic threat
Were always at the top of my hit list.

But then as the game progressed it seemed more and more like Julie had more control and influence than I originally thought.

And yes, Todd has already discussed how he feels the whole Ozzie vote was His decision.

Ozzie sure is popular and a keystone of this game for being the first jury member!
:)

And yes, I am Very interested to see how they respond/spin their answers.
:)
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Zeke,Aug 27 2017
05:59:47 PM
Ozzy was the driver in my opinion to get Bubba out. He laid it at my and Todd's feet and we went along with it so as to avoid a tie, so our two votes were what decided that rather than having it be a tie.

I think Todd can claim the same amount of credit as Julie for the Ozzy vote or maybe more. From my vantage point, he was really pushing for it. Remember Julie was close with Ozzy, so I don't believe her totally that she "woke up" and realized that he needed to be voted out. I think that Todd pushed her to do it, in combination with Rudy. I was pretty absent that weekend with some IRL stuff unfortunately. But Todd sent like 3 messages throughout that Saturday on how it was going, pushing for voting out Ozzy. So I'd give him a lot of credit for that vote.

And in general, Julie was involved in so many of people's games, and voted the right way throughout. But Todd also voted correctly throughout. So for each round, I don't think anyone can get 100% of the credit, since it takes more than one vote to get anyone out. Both of them were heavily involved in each of us getting voted out.

Just offering my perspective a little bit on some of those items.

Thanks Zeke, it is helpful!
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Rudy
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Good answer Julie.
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Sierra,Aug 27 2017
06:03:40 PM
Remember those convos you and I had late in the game?
For much of the game I thought You were the one in charge
and that Julie was just your henchman when you could convince her to follow you.
Which is why since you weren't on My alliance
both Todd as the largest well-liked challenge threat
and You as the most (in my mind) strategic threat
Were always at the top of my hit list.

But then as the game progressed it seemed more and more like Julie had more control and influence than I originally thought.

And yes, Todd has already discussed how he feels the whole Ozzie vote was His decision.

Ozzie sure is popular and a keystone of this game for being the first jury member!
:)

And yes, I am Very interested to see how they respond/spin their answers.
:)

I appreciate the credit, though I don't know if I was or for sure didn't feel that way! :D :D

I do remember you literally saying that my name comes up sometimes as a big threat lol.

So yeah, we never quite got on the same page!

What a jury post though. Brobst saved a good one for last! :)

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Rudy,Aug 27 2017
06:04:39 PM
Good answer Julie.

Also good answer Todd.






Jeeze this is not going to be easy.
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Rudy,Aug 27 2017
06:04:39 PM
Good answer Julie.

She also did give credit to you!
"So, yes, Rudy proposed the idea to me, but it was already in my head that it needed to happen."

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Hey Cirie--

I thought I saw in one of the other jury sections that this was not true? Can you shed light on this?

"One thing I want to touch on though, I do not ever recall telling Cirie that Todd and Zeke were after her. I think that was an assumption made on her part by knowing she was on the chopping block. I felt really bad for what happened the round Cirie was voted out and all I wanted to do that round was hide, I have no recollection of ever instigating anything between her, and Todd and Zeke."

Someone got all those rumors started, and I thought that it was Julie?
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Zeke,Aug 27 2017
06:08:38 PM
I appreciate the credit, though I don't know if I was or for sure didn't feel that way! :D :D

I do remember you literally saying that my name comes up sometimes as a big threat lol.

So yeah, we never quite got on the same page!

What a jury post though. Brobst saved a good one for last! :)

Oops! Took me too long to post.
That was my answer to Rudy!!!

But yes, I did unwittingly try and protect you several times Zeke because I did feel closer to you than to Todd... and it always seemed to come down to the two of you as the challenge threats!
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Jury House will be closing down momentarily......
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Zeke,Aug 27 2017
05:59:47 PM
Ozzy was the driver in my opinion to get Bubba out. He laid it at my and Todd's feet and we went along with it so as to avoid a tie, so our two votes were what decided that rather than having it be a tie.

I think Todd can claim the same amount of credit as Julie for the Ozzy vote or maybe more. From my vantage point, he was really pushing for it. Remember Julie was close with Ozzy, so I don't believe her totally that she "woke up" and realized that he needed to be voted out. I think that Todd pushed her to do it, in combination with Rudy. I was pretty absent that weekend with some IRL stuff unfortunately. But Todd sent like 3 messages throughout that Saturday on how it was going, pushing for voting out Ozzy. So I'd give him a lot of credit for that vote.

And in general, Julie was involved in so many of people's games, and voted the right way throughout. But Todd also voted correctly throughout. So for each round, I don't think anyone can get 100% of the credit, since it takes more than one vote to get anyone out. Both of them were heavily involved in each of us getting voted out.

Just offering my perspective a little bit on some of those items.

Totally agree!

And I am having such a hard time deciding who to vote for at this point.
The more I find out, the more they BOTH played an awesome game and deserve the win.

I think I have changed my mind five times in the last Three Hours!!!

What a Ride!

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BROBST
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Also, here's my stance on Jury votes. I consider them VERY IMPORTANT.

Every single one of you should vote as if YOUR VOTE DETERMINES THE WINNER.



* * * Do not vote based on how you think OTHERS will vote. * * *


If this were a 5 - 4 vote and YOUR BALLOT determines the winner.......

.......who do YOU want to be the Sole Survivor of this game?




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THANKS FOR A GREAT FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL, Y'ALL!!! :D
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