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Clarification Needed - Inaugural Draft Rules; Inaugural Draft Rules
Topic Started: Feb 4 2018, 04:30 PM (275 Views)
Summerville Pinecones
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Paragraph 1: Please confirm 12 hour "Pick Window"

Paragraph 3: Please confirm that all veterans (7+ years of experience) are eligible for reduction of Contract duration (to be specified at time of selection)
Please confirm that each team is allowed to reduce 2 veteran's salaries by 25% (to be specified at time of selection), but cannot combine with shortening the contract duration.

Paragraph 5: Please confirm that all players with 4-6 years of experience are only eligible for a single year contract (expiration after 2018) at their average salary per Spotrac. Upon expiration of deal they will enter the next arb year (those currently with 4 or 5 years of experience) or Restricted Free Agency (those with 6 years of experience).

Paragraph 7: Please confirm that all players with 1-3 years of experience are given $0.4m /year salary for those years until they exceed 4 years of experience at which time they enter arb. years (5-7).

Paragraph 11: Please confirm that ALL players to be placed immediately on the 50-man Roster MUST BE IDENTIFIED AT THE TIME OF SELECTION. Players may be be moved off and on the 50-man post-Draft via the various ways (drops, options, waivers, etc.) noted in the League Rules.

Additional Questions: Please confirm that all players are eligible to be placed in the minor league system regardless of current experience. If this is not the intent, please provide criteria which players must meet.
Please confirm that all players will be given 3 options upon their selection. If this is not the intent, please provide criteria of who will and will not receive options upon selection, and how many.
Please confirm that all players having had real-life MLB contracts in the past are eligible for selection. Please note how players (i.e. international) who do not yet have a contract are to be treated.

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Everything you said is accurate. Only parts that I need to clarify is that international players without an MLB contract cannot be drafted. Additionally, the 50 man roster can only have be moved off of via a waiver post where every other team can put a claim in. That can be explained further down the road if need be. Lastly, veteran players do not receive options, only those below 7 years experience.

Great summary Summerville, well put.
Edited by Hartford Whalers, Feb 4 2018, 04:47 PM.
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Please clarify how a contract such as A. McCutchen will be handled.

http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/san-francisco-giants/andrew-mccutchen-7489/

Andrew McCutchen signed a 6 year / $51,500,000 contract with the Pittsburgh Pirates, including a $1,250,000 signing bonus, $51,500,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $8,583,333. In 2018, McCutchen will earn a base salary of $14,750,000, while carrying a cap hit of $14,750,000.

His 6 year deal (with the annual average salary stated above) ended after 2017. He is now on a one year Team Option for $14.75m. When judging his salary are we taking the the stated average of the original deal, or the current average 14.75/1?



Also, please confirm that all RL Team Options for all veterans are considered part of the player's contract terms and will be honored upon expiration of the current deal.

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Summerville Pinecones
Feb 5 2018, 09:02 AM
Please clarify how a contract such as A. McCutchen will be handled.

http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/san-francisco-giants/andrew-mccutchen-7489/

Andrew McCutchen signed a 6 year / $51,500,000 contract with the Pittsburgh Pirates, including a $1,250,000 signing bonus, $51,500,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $8,583,333. In 2018, McCutchen will earn a base salary of $14,750,000, while carrying a cap hit of $14,750,000.

His 6 year deal (with the annual average salary stated above) ended after 2017. He is now on a one year Team Option for $14.75m. When judging his salary are we taking the the stated average of the original deal, or the current average 14.75/1?



Also, please confirm that all RL Team Options for all veterans are considered part of the player's contract terms and will be honored upon expiration of the current deal.

Thanks,
Tony
Ok for Cutch this year he'd be whatever his team option is if the 5 year deal expired in 2017... So he'd be 14.75 Mil (2018). If he was still on that 5 year deal he'd be whatever Spotrac has as his average salary... Not what his actual salary is for this year. So whenever you draft a vet, look at their avg salary and that's what you'll be required to pay. Hope this helps.
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SD is incorrect above. We are only using the average annual salary column under contracts tab! so McCutchen, if drafted would have a contract of 8.583333 mil (2018). He would be listed on your roster like this:

Andrew McCutchen, SF CF 8.583333 mil (2018) [Dynasty Contract]

No options, since he is passed 7 years, 2018 since on spotrac it listed 2019 as his free agent year, 8.583333 listed as the Avg Salary. Make sure you guys are clicking on the "Contracts: Active" tab for your information.

We aren't going to look into each player and figure out the specific situation for every player. yes it would make more sense after researching for McCutchen to make 14.75, but that isnt what is listed in his average value spot in spotrac so it isnt what we will use. just look to that one spot for everyone who has 4 years or more experience
Edited by Hartford Whalers, Feb 5 2018, 02:38 PM.
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We will not be carrying team options on any players in the initial draft. team options can be offered in our own resign attempts but that is down the road starting next offseason when contracts expire
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so, we are using the stated average salary and the year prior to the FA year listed in Spotrac... even though that includes Options, but does not include the increased in salary due to options? I'm fine with that... just want to make sure. Also, that means that no vets will be given Team Options, regardless of what Spotrac says. Correct?
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Feb 5 2018, 02:35 PM
so, we are using the stated average salary and the year prior to the FA year listed in Spotrac... even though that includes Options, but does not include the increased in salary due to options? I'm fine with that... just want to make sure. Also, that means that no vets will be given Team Options, regardless of what Spotrac says. Correct?
Yes and Yes. in order to maintain simplicity when getting these guys drafted.
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Sounds good. I am glad I asked.

Thanks for the clarifications, HAR.
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Feb 5 2018, 02:31 PM
SD is incorrect above. We are only using the average annual salary column under contracts tab! so McCutchen, if drafted would have a contract of 8.583333 mil (2018). He would be listed on your roster like this:

Andrew McCutchen, SF CF 8.583333 mil (2018) [Dynasty Contract]

No options, since he is passed 7 years, 2018 since on spotrac it listed 2019 as his free agent year, 8.583333 listed as the Avg Salary. Make sure you guys are clicking on the "Contracts: Active" tab for your information.

We aren't going to look into each player and figure out the specific situation for every player. yes it would make more sense after researching for McCutchen to make 14.75, but that isnt what is listed in his average value spot in spotrac so it isnt what we will use. just look to that one spot for everyone who has 4 years or more experience
This is confusing to me... If he is under a team option this year why would he not get paid whatever the team option is? I need to look at his Spotrac but if his contract expired after 2017 as stated above then that contract is done, gone, bye bye... I will look at his contract and see if I misinterpreted something though.

Another thing too is we are only listing him at 8.58 Mil (2018) to keep it simple right? Listing 8.5833333333333333 is too much imo so I thought we narrowed it down to 8.58 or 8.59 Mil?
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i dont know his situation. and i dont care. thats the point. were just going to use the value that is there, for consistency and simplicity. Lets not turn this into something we need to discuss ad nauseam. were trying to keep spotrac simple and just need to look at limited values.

i want to list the entire deal out. if a guy makes 8.583333 thats what we should do for them. I definitely dont think we can round down. every dollar matters.
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So I think there will be some confusion on contracts like this... From what I see his salary for 2018 should be 14.75 Mil. His 6 year 51 Mil dollar contracts ended in 2017. This 14 Mil was a club option that was picked up. I don't see how we can use a contract that expired last year as part of his annual salary? He had a team option with a 1 Mil buyout... This is how I read his Spotrac page at least. Then to make it even more confusing you scroll down a bit and it says his 2018 salary is 2.5 Mil?

2018 can't be part of his 6 year deal or that would put his total up at 64 Mil over 6 years. That deal was from 2012-2017 and this 14.75 Mil is an option. We have to honor that team option cause the 6yr/51 Mil contract is over. I hope I'm explaining this right cause that's how I see it. Just do the math. Someone help me explain this if this isn't right!!! Haha
Edited by San Diego 5150's, Feb 5 2018, 03:10 PM.
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SD, you don't have to even look at the contract breakdown for the contract terms to post. Sounds like we are using whatever is in the "Average Salary" (red text) and "Free Agent" (red text) boxes above the contract breakdown.

So, McCutchen would be 8.58333 (2018)... because he becomes a UFA in 2019 per the red text "Free Agent:".

So, for veterans (7+ years of experience) take average salary and FA year minus 1, for contract expiration.
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I think if everyone uses this (below) as suggested by Hartford, we can all be "on the same page"... no pun intended.

http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/contracts/
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So, lemme see if I got this.... let’s say I wanted to draft Assdribble Cabrera. (Just picked him randomly and the name was too good to pass)
10 yrs in the league, so he’d be Avg Ann. Sal. at 9.25 million for one year.
Then I could re-sign him as a free agent for a bidded and appropriate price if I wanted to next year..

Hypothically, If he was a 4-6 year player with a longer deal, he’d be eligible for this leagues version of arbitration when his actual deal is up...or next year since he’s a 4-6 guy?

And if he was a rookie waiting to be called up, his salary would be whatever the rookie scale
Is, most likely .4 mil since he’d be on the major league roster...

I think/hope I get everything....I feel good with the rookie and the vet rules. It’s the 4-6 guys I’m a little confused about....
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