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Australian Immigration Test; Fresh Discrimination! :)
Topic Started: Dec 12 2006, 11:36 AM (324 Views)
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"For those who've come across the seas
We've boundless plains to share;
With courage let us all combine
To advance Australia fair."

The above is a lie.

ABC Article

We all know that Australia's immigration policies are disgusting and hopelessly backward. We lock people away and we're proud of it. But this is a new low. Is it just me, or is this a complete joke? I say joke in the sense that what is detailed in that article is in fact real, but it's so ridiculous I laugh at it. I read the story in The Age today but I'm linking you to the abc version.

To sum it up. "Prospective citizens will have to pass a computerised test covering English language skills, local culture and history and sign a commitment to Australia's values and way of life."

Do you really think that people from thirld world nations or war torn regions - or both - would have been able to read up on the English language or Australian history? And it's a computerized test, too. Many immigrants won't even know what a computer is, let alone how to operate one. This brings back memories of the horror stories that spring out of the days of the White Australia Policy, in which even well-educated immigrants were given tests in various obscure dialects so as to ensure that they fail.

(From the Age article) "They will have to agree to conform to Australian values such as "mateship" and a "fair go."
For those not snorting their drinks all over the keyboard and screen, you should understand that these concepts are a complete sham. The whole "larrikin" ideology died in the 50s. The government still try and feed it down our throats to make us feel safe and cared for. It's just like the Safeway ads you see with the farmers in the fields. "They're giving the farmers a fair go." Bullshit, Safeway don't give a rat's arse about their farmers, or the 15 year old stacking shelves in aisle 7 - and you know it.

Sure, one could argue that the immigrants should read up on history whilst behind bars. We all know they'd have the time. Thank you, Mrs. Vanstone. But this doesn't have to happen. What the Australian Government should be doing is not alienating these people from the beginning, but providing them with support along the way and - forgive the use of a Howard-esque term - helping them integrate into the community. Why not provide these new citizens with an English language course? Or a basic history lesson? The amount of money we're pissing away on Iraq for example is hideously sickening when you stack it up to the amount of work that needs to be done to rid Australia of the image that it has become. Pauline Hanson's dream might not be too far away with this crap getting through parliament.

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This reminds me of, long ago when blacks had to take tests to vote, like their family history and stuff and how to write, and other questions that would make it impossible to pass.
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Indeed it is rather disgusting. What I love about the factions of government (predominantly the Coalition) who parade these 'values' is that the vast majority of their policies are in effect, keeping people in their 'assigned' class. They can't begin to even use the term mateship, unless they are speaking of the such strong bonds they keep with large scale business managers and executives.

The tests are ridiculous and completely ineffective. As you put it so very well, these are just a transparent 'white Australia' curtain. It has been said by others, but I think the greatest possibly innovation brought by such a policy would be if ALL White or naturally anglo-descent citizens had to take such a test too. AND, if they were to fail such a test, can be booted into the closest detention centre.

We are so very unprogressive and our policies continue to enforce the backward outlook. I feel sick.
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Dec 12 2006, 03:06 PM
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Indeed it is rather disgusting. What I love about the factions of government (predominantly the Coalition) who parade these 'values' is that the vast majority of their policies are in effect, keeping people in their 'assigned' class. They can't begin to even use the term mateship, unless they are speaking of the such strong bonds they keep with large scale business managers and executives.

The tests are ridiculous and completely ineffective. As you put it so very well, these are just a transparent 'white Australia' curtain. It has been said by others, but I think the greatest possibly innovation brought by such a policy would be if ALL White or naturally anglo-descent citizens had to take such a test too. AND, if they were to fail such a test, can be booted into the closest detention centre.

We are so very unprogressive and our policies continue to enforce the backward outlook. I feel sick.

To quote my esteemed Grandfather on this exact issue, "puerile and disgusting. This is like White Australia all over again."

As you point out Moon, it's funny that if you quizzed many "Pure bred" (to use a Nazi-like term) Australian anglos, they would own themselves with their own stupidity. See that Spoonman episode; case in point. These "true blue" (read: bogan) Aussies are too busy getting pissed and starting riots down on the beach.

I conclude with a Jake quote: "Flip-flopping fuck."
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Dec 12 2006, 04:42 PM
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Indeed it is rather disgusting. What I love about the factions of government (predominantly the Coalition) who parade these 'values' is that the vast majority of their policies are in effect, keeping people in their 'assigned' class. They can't begin to even use the term mateship, unless they are speaking of the such strong bonds they keep with large scale business managers and executives.

The tests are ridiculous and completely ineffective. As you put it so very well, these are just a transparent 'white Australia' curtain. It has been said by others, but I think the greatest possibly innovation brought by such a policy would be if ALL White or naturally anglo-descent citizens had to take such a test too. AND, if they were to fail such a test, can be booted into the closest detention centre.

We are so very unprogressive and our policies continue to enforce the backward outlook. I feel sick.

To quote my esteemed Grandfather on this exact issue, "puerile and disgusting. This is like White Australia all over again."

As you point out Moon, it's funny that if you quizzed many "Pure bred" (to use a Nazi-like term) Australian anglos, they would own themselves with their own stupidity. See that Spoonman episode; case in point. These "true blue" (read: bogan) Aussies are too busy getting pissed and starting riots down on the beach.

I conclude with a Jake quote: "Flip-flopping fuck."

Basically yeah, I agree.

The hypocrisies are rampant.
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Just gotta slide in another Grandfather quote:

"John Howard is a slimy little piece of shit."
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Graham quote (after last election):"I'd like to fucking beat him with a hammer" - He didn't know I was at home.

and recently as an answer to my question "How many kids does he have?" he replied "2 rats have spawned from the nest."
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Dec 12 2006, 05:01 PM
Graham quote (after last election):"I'd like to fucking beat him with a hammer" - He didn't know I was at home.

and recently as an answer to my question "How many kids does he have?" he replied "2 rats have spawned from the nest."

You have spawned from a God.
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Haha, of course who can forget "Know thine enemy".
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Dec 12 2006, 05:03 PM
Haha, of course who can forget "Know thine enemy".

Alright let's keep it on topic here. I'd like to hear from someone with parents born overseas, or even themselves. That would be a nice perspective
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Haha, of course who can forget "Know thine enemy".

Alright let's keep it on topic here. I'd like to hear from someone with parents born overseas, or even themselves. That would be a nice perspective

Well for starters, all of the father's family came fresh off the boat in the late sixties from Liverpool. They found it difficult to sustain a living at first (as they were of the working class) but were able to 'assimilate' within the community. Easy, as they were 'pure.'
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Dec 12 2006, 09:57 PM
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Haha, of course who can forget "Know thine enemy".

Alright let's keep it on topic here. I'd like to hear from someone with parents born overseas, or even themselves. That would be a nice perspective

Well for starters, all of the father's family came fresh off the boat in the late sixties from Liverpool. They found it difficult to sustain a living at first (as they were of the working class) but were able to 'assimilate' within the community. Easy, as they were 'pure.'

I'm thinking more people from places like Asia or Africa.

I would love to hear what an Islamic Australian who was born in, say, Iraq, thinks of this. Or one of the many local Sudanese who live in my neighbourhood.
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