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American culture.; And its global influence.
Topic Started: Mar 5 2007, 06:35 PM (796 Views)
Arkan
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And who are the dutch? For your information Greenland is a territory of denmark that is part independant.
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And who are the dutch?

This is not the OFAH quote thread, Arkan. Jeeez.

Thanks for keeping me abreast of the Greenland issue though.
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In America, (or our school district, at least) you learn only of American culture and history and crap. Once you enter High School, you have the opportunity to take classes like AP European History, which doesn't teach you any culture. I haven't taken any foreign languages, but I imagine there is some culture to be learned inside those walls. There are probably classes, but you are not REQUIRED to take them... What about in Australia? Do you learn about American culture?
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Mar 9 2007, 02:40 AM
In America, (or our school district, at least) you learn only of American culture and history and crap.  Once you enter High School, you have the opportunity to take classes like AP European History, which doesn't teach you any culture.  I haven't taken any foreign languages, but I imagine there is some culture to be learned inside those walls.  There are probably classes, but you are not REQUIRED to take them... What about in Australia?  Do you learn about American culture?

Sadly, until the higher year levels (10, 11, 12) you really don't hear much about the rest of the world. All I can remember from my childhood learning is the same old shit about bushrangers and the first fleet. Luckily there are now a wider variety of courses to choose from that are interesting.
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Mar 9 2007, 04:51 PM
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Mar 9 2007, 02:40 AM
In America, (or our school district, at least) you learn only of American culture and history and crap.  Once you enter High School, you have the opportunity to take classes like AP European History, which doesn't teach you any culture.  I haven't taken any foreign languages, but I imagine there is some culture to be learned inside those walls.  There are probably classes, but you are not REQUIRED to take them... What about in Australia?  Do you learn about American culture?

Sadly, until the higher year levels (10, 11, 12) you really don't hear much about the rest of the world. All I can remember from my childhood learning is the same old shit about bushrangers and the first fleet. Luckily there are now a wider variety of courses to choose from that are interesting.

Well, that's not entirely true. In the majority of Primrary (or Elementary) schools in Australia, there will be forms of at least 'acknowledgment' of the broader international community, most especially here in Melbourne, where the huge number of migrants have truly shaped the culture that we see as essentially our own. I hate to use the term 'melting pot', but that's what it is.

We have compulsory history courses, which depending on the year taken, covers different periods and regions of historical significance. It is also compulsary to undertake at least one language in the public/state system from year 7 (first year of High School) until Year 9; most schools continuing to enforce this rule until Year 10.

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As previously stated in the thread, the majority of our media is sourced from either Western Europe, but most predominantly the United States, (excluding a small amount of low-key domestic nationwide productions). Therefore our 'American Cultural Enrichment' class is watching TV, or seeing a film. We've grown up with American music, film and TV which in turn has shaped our modern cultural identity, which is exactly what I wanted to discuss in the thread.

Good or bad thing?
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You must have gone to a better school than me. I never learnt of anything outside our "great island."

And the cultural issue is a good thing, by the way.
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I agree with Mars, although i was taught ancient and medieval European history when i was in Grade 7 and 8. Most high schools don't have history classes in those early years like i did but rather a mixture of history and geography called SOSE.
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The "good or bad" question is a very good question. It cannot be directly answered unless you specify the category.

Using a previous opinion stated in this thread as an example:

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- iTunes
- Firefly
- The Shield
- Penn Jillette
- youtube
- Bob Motherfucking Dylan


In general, all of these have to do with entertainment. Given what he said, it has been a good influence on him because of his enjoyment of these such things. So basically, in his case, you could say that our culture's influence has been "good", but it can vary based on whether you like these specific things, or others, or none at all.

But there are also the lowlights of American culture, for example America being "fat". To anyone this is negative, and other countries often stereotype America for it. This ties in with a gilded highlight of America's culture, fast food. The idea of it is not necessarily bad, but people in America overuse it. I don't know how many fast food chains exist in Australia, or other countries for that matter, but it can be a bad influence if the privilege of having fast food is abused like it is in America.

To sum up, American culture can have good and bad influences, but once again, the general question cannot be answered. You have to base it upon the category of America's culture, and in some cases point of view.
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America being "fat". To anyone this is negative

Not from the footage I've seen.
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I agree with Lumpunzik. Although I hate how we don't learn about other cultures, I guess America's influence can be a good or bad thing. It goes both way, depending on your personal point of view. I would imagine it also serves as a standard of sorts. I'm still upset with our incompetent education system.
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America being "fat". To anyone this is negative

Not from the footage I've seen.

By that, what do you mean?
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It's a joke that has no place here.
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Yes mars, this is not a seinfeld quotes thread.

Hypocrite about OFAH

As you can see, Seinfeld is another example about American influence over here.
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Mar 10 2007, 01:15 PM
The "good or bad" question is a very good question. It cannot be directly answered unless you specify the category.

Using a previous opinion stated in this thread as an example:

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- iTunes
- Firefly
- The Shield
- Penn Jillette
- youtube
- Bob Motherfucking Dylan


In general, all of these have to do with entertainment. Given what he said, it has been a good influence on him because of his enjoyment of these such things. So basically, in his case, you could say that our culture's influence has been "good", but it can vary based on whether you like these specific things, or others, or none at all.

But there are also the lowlights of American culture, for example America being "fat". To anyone this is negative, and other countries often stereotype America for it. This ties in with a gilded highlight of America's culture, fast food. The idea of it is not necessarily bad, but people in America overuse it. I don't know how many fast food chains exist in Australia, or other countries for that matter, but it can be a bad influence if the privilege of having fast food is abused like it is in America.

To sum up, American culture can have good and bad influences, but once again, the general question cannot be answered. You have to base it upon the category of America's culture, and in some cases point of view.

Well surmised point.

We have a huge number of fast-food chains, with more-or-less that same range of names as you guys. I guess the question is more about context, but as an overall view on global influence of American culture you must consider whether you see the breakdown of domestic cultural enrichment as a good or bad thing. If you see it as a bad thing, the inadvertent degradation of American international media and culture can be seen as a negative force. Needless to say, their are positive byproducts of this influence, such as the global communication of ideas and expression.

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