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| America's education system | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 4 2007, 10:13 AM (404 Views) | |
| lumpy | Sep 4 2007, 10:13 AM Post #1 |
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww This makes me want to break down in tears. I posted this because I wanted to open up discussion on America's education system, and how low the standards seem to be. This study makes me feel quite embarrassed about my own country. "Only 70% of all students in public high schools graduate" So much for "No child left behind". Note to Bush: if you're going to require school-aged children and teenagers to get an education, make sure that they're required to go all the way. Allowing them to drop out before they get their diploma makes the whole effort look half-ass, and just isn't going to cut it. |
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| stormbreaker | Sep 4 2007, 01:23 PM Post #2 |
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You don't need an education to be a fucking whore. That's the future of America in a nutshell. You're right lumpy. I have noticed that the non-American members of this forum are educated well beyond what I was in their year. |
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| Arkan | Sep 5 2007, 08:13 PM Post #3 |
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I just want to say that here in Australia it is also quite common for people not to graduate high school. School is compulsory up till the 10th grade and then its your choice. Not every job requires high school completion and it is very important to the economy to have apprentices working in the labor fields. Even the government realizes this and they are even offering reward bonuses to people who take up an apprentiship. You say 70% don't finish high school in the US, i don't have any facts or anything but i think that would be the same here in Australia as well. I don't think that high school completion is an accurate figure in measuring the future of a country as stormbreaker says. But hey, it might be different in America Idon't know.
First, since when are you older than us. Second, the reason there are so many educated people on this forum is because most of us go to the same school (mars, Euro, TSC, FnF and myself). Our school is the only selective school in the state and to get in you must pass an entrance exam. only 10% of the people who sit the exam go through. I'm not bragging or anything, nor is it anything to really brag about, but we are the top students in the state. |
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| Mars | Sep 5 2007, 08:22 PM Post #4 |
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He said only 70% do finish school in the United States. |
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| Arkan | Sep 5 2007, 08:47 PM Post #5 |
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I know what he meant. Its a typo. |
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| stormbreaker | Sep 6 2007, 09:51 AM Post #6 |
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Then I guess that explains it. |
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| lumpy | Sep 6 2007, 11:27 AM Post #7 |
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There is no labor system oriented on 'apprenticeship' in America. I do understand what it is. But in this hardcore capitalist nation, no one, especially not the government, is there to hold your hand. (With the exception of bankruptcy issues). When students drop out in this country though, they pretty much drop off the good-career/job grid. Corporations and industries are only going to seek the best-educated, and that's where the best jobs and careers are. If you are not on the "hotlist", so to speak, in this country, you're probably shit out of luck in getting the career you want most. The problem is that a number of teenage Americans don't see how unlikely it is that they will live the American dream and be utterly successful if they don't work hard and take the education offered to them early in life. Slightly off topic, but there are several kids at my school with very wealthy parents who take what they've got for granted and have a very cloudy future. Matter of fact, they don't even need to be rich. But that's a bit of a ramble, so I'm getting back on track. Even though the following list of alternatives to a great career is full of opportunity and in-demand jobs, I'm sure only the utterly desperate and utterly stupid will choose to take them. -McDonalds employee -Lawn mower -Wal-Mart employee -Bum -Drug whore -Drug addict -Rock star (arguably unlikely) -Hobo |
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| stormbreaker | Sep 6 2007, 01:16 PM Post #8 |
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I take direct offense to this comment and will proceed to bang my head against this brick wall until you apologize. Please pull forward to the second window. |
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| Arkan | Sep 6 2007, 05:59 PM Post #9 |
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Yeah i thought it would be different in the US. But i'm sure you can still make a living by being a builder, electrician or plumber. Sure it's hard for the first few years but eventually you can make your own business. A number of my family friends are builders and they make nearly as much money as doctors/lawyers! |
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| stormbreaker | Sep 7 2007, 02:50 AM Post #10 |
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You can make a living building; my father did so in school, but to live a nice life you need an education. Building your whole life will be no where near as much as a lawyer. |
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| lumpy | Sep 7 2007, 09:25 AM Post #11 |
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The job of a builder on its own is not enough to make as much as a lawyer/doctor/drug dealer, but with your own business you could make quite a bit of profit. But the tsunami of competition you will encounter makes entrepreneurship extremely difficult. |
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| giggleguy | Sep 10 2007, 10:33 PM Post #12 |
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This never had that much chance of a healthy debate, as everybody pretty much agreed. |
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| lumpy | Sep 11 2007, 11:08 AM Post #13 |
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It's in debate because it's a serious topic, and I wanted to hear opinions on the subject. |
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