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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 12 2008, 09:04 AM (814 Views) | |
| lumpy | Jul 12 2008, 09:04 AM Post #1 |
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Unless you're dreadfully secluded from the rest of the world, you probably know (and possibly have been feeling the effects) of explosively high oil prices, currently at $145 USD per barrel. I know because I just put 7.6 gallons of regular gasoline into my car for a heinous $3.99 per gallon (about $1.09 per liter in Australia), which is one of the lowest prices you'll find in the States today. With oil being the lifeblood of the current world economy, as it has been for the last industrial century, in what direction do you think high prices will take the planet? Are our supplies dwindling, soon to cause an oil crash, and abruptly send mighty nations into fiscal ruin? Could this be some international corporate scandal? Might there be resource wars? How is this affecting you as an individual? Are you apathetic, concerned, even paranoid? Discussion is totally open. Drill away at it. |
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| Mr. Awesome | Jul 12 2008, 09:49 AM Post #2 |
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Resource wars will lead us to annex Canada, and then we'll enter a nuclear war with China that will destroy the earth as we know it. Thats what happens in Fallout anyway. |
Guess what! I'm writing a book called Nuclear Winter!
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| Mr. Panda | Jul 13 2008, 12:33 AM Post #3 |
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I think we're headed towards E85. On a serious note: This is ridiculous. Oh, and the following is probably the most epic not-meant-to-be-epic sentence on Wikipedia:
No, but really. E85 is pretty awesome. It reduces vehicle emissions by about 70%, and when used in well-suited engines, gives you TURBO POWER! Corvette uses E85 in one of their newer racing cars. Sure, the mileage is nowhere near regular gasoline, so we'll have to carry a few extra gallons. But really, we put up with 12 MPG on gasoline back in the day. You know, when gas was $0.92 |
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| Ethan_odd | Jul 13 2008, 01:32 AM Post #4 |
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Well what some people don't know is that we aren't dwindling in oil supply in the States. We have a shitload of it underneath us. But the government is not using it. No they want to save it incase of a "crisis" so we can be the ones on top. Fucking American government. Pfft. |
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| Mr. Awesome | Jul 13 2008, 02:32 AM Post #5 |
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More like "its too expensive to go after yet." |
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| Ethan_odd | Jul 13 2008, 05:40 AM Post #6 |
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I guess. The point of this whole oil business is this. Bush: I'm gonna see to it that oil prices rise since we're at a shortage. Bush's Assistant: Actually we have enough to last us 300 years Bush. Bush: My 600 cars have something to say about that. |
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| Mr. Awesome | Jul 13 2008, 05:47 AM Post #7 |
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I disagree. |
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| Ethan_odd | Jul 13 2008, 06:15 AM Post #8 |
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Well i'm exaggerating. But we do have enough oil to last quite awhile. The government are being retards by "stockpiling it" per se. |
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| Mars | Jul 13 2008, 07:42 PM Post #9 |
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What? Sorry, what I mean to say is, what? |
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| lumpy | Jul 14 2008, 01:23 AM Post #10 |
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We have ~21 billion barrels of recoverable oil, in total, in the gulf/Alaska/other places. With consumption at 20 million barrels per day, it will probably last us two and a half years if we go 100% domestic. But comfortably low prices from that will only make demand skyrocket all over again like it did in the 80's, and once we run dry, we're back to living off imports. The US Strategic reserve isn't being filled at the moment. Congress put a halt on that a couple months ago. So we're not stockpiling it anymore. |
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| Ethan_odd | Jul 14 2008, 01:59 AM Post #11 |
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Oh, boy do I feel like a fucking retard. |
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| Mr. Panda | Jul 14 2008, 05:17 AM Post #12 |
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| stormbreaker | Jul 14 2008, 02:00 PM Post #13 |
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I like your reefer idea, lumpunzik. I've decided to start hypermilling. |
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| KER | Jul 14 2008, 04:29 PM Post #14 |
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i think we'll build hovercars soon. |
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| lumpy | Jul 15 2008, 05:58 AM Post #15 |
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Specifically, those 21 billion barrels are actually all that is feasible to get now, because it's that easily obtained light sweet crude oil. All we need to do with it is drill and refine and we have fuel. If we had the technology to obtain crude oil from oil shale for a cheap price, we'd be the next Saudi Arabia. We have an assload of oil shale in the green river basin, somewhere between 500 billion to over 1 trillion potentially recoverable barrels. I've read there is a lot in North Dakota too, but I haven't found any estimates of its size that are consistent with each other (I've read extremes between 3 billion and 300 billion barrels).
Yeah, so about me, a driver. I've started hypermiling, a fancy cool-person word for "driving in a way that stretches a gallon of gasoline farther". I drive lightly, don't use the A/C, etc. So far I've been pretty successful. I get 30 miles per gallon out of my 22 mile per gallon car. Storm, I'll have to teach you the tricks of the trade. That means using your semi-auto transmission to your advantage. |
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