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21,000 more troops to Iraq
Topic Started: Jun 20 2006, 08:09 PM (233 Views)
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21,000 troops notified for Iraq deployment
By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The Pentagon has notified about 21,000 Army soldiers and Marines that they are scheduled to be sent to Iraq late this year as part of the latest deployment rotation.

Four major combat brigades from Texas, Alaska and Colorado are scheduled to replace troops returning home from the war, the Pentagon said. Thus, the announcement does not signal an increase in troop strength in Iraq.

In a press release Tuesday, the Pentagon said the planned assignments could change depending on the conditions in Baghdad. The move comes as Pentagon officials and the Bush administration are under increasing pressure from Congress and the public to begin withdrawing troops from Iraq.

Combined with last November's announcement of 92,000 American service members scheduled to go to Iraq in the 2006-2008 rotation, this would bring the total U.S. troop level to about 113,000 for that period. That is less than the approximately 138,000 average troop level for the past year, but more than military officials' goal of less than 100,000 by the end of the year.

There are about 127,000 U.S. troops in Iraq.

Not all of the units in the first 92,000 have gone to Iraq yet. A Germany-based Army brigade's travel to Iraq was put on hold just last month — triggering talk that a U.S. troop cut might be in the offing. They are now scheduled to go this summer. And a Fort Lewis, Washington, brigade began shipping equipment to Iraq this month and the soldiers are expect to follow soon.

The moves suggest that U.S. commanders are sticking largely to their original troop rotation plan for this year, leaving unclear when and if a sizable reduction in U.S. troop levels will begin.

Defense officials said the announcement makes no major changes to the number of troops in Iraq and should not be interpreted as a move to either decrease or increase the size of the military there.

"Force levels in Iraq continue to be conditions-based and will be determined in consultation with the Iraqi government," the announcement said. "Changes may be made that could affect units now being identified and advised to prepare to deploy."

The decision was made by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, based on recommendations by commanders in the field.

The units are: 3rd Corps Headquarters, 1st Cavalry Division Headquarters, the 2nd Brigade of the 1st Cavalry Division, and the 3rd Brigade of the 1st Cavalry Division, all from Fort Hood in Texas; the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Force from Camp Lejeune, N.C.; the 4th Brigade, 25th Infantry Division from Fort Richardson in Alaska; and the 2nd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, from Fort Carson in Colorado.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060620/ap_on_...raq_deployments

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127,000 American soldiers sitting in Iraq doing what? Being used for target practice. I will never understand why Americans aren't marching in the streets, demanding that our troops be brought home IMMEDIATELY from this disgusting, appalling, immoral quagmire. :angry:
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Ah! Thinly disguised bias in an AP article! Anyone reading the headline and first paragraph would assume we are increasing troop strength in Iraq.

The story is not that 21,000 more troops are goint to Iraq. The story it that the US is rotating 21,000 troops back and replacing them. The story also is that there has been an 11,000-troop reduction in forces in Iraq. AP should headline and lead the report in this way. We are left to wonder why they did not. I assume it is bias.
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The story is that we are making NO reductions in troop strength in Iraq for the forseeable future.
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Combined with last November's announcement of 92,000 American service members scheduled to go to Iraq in the 2006-2008 rotation, this would bring the total U.S. troop level to about 113,000 for that period. That is less than the approximately 138,000 average troop level for the past year, but more than military officials' goal of less than 100,000 by the end of the year.

This sounds like reduction to me.
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"Defense officials said the announcement makes no major changes to the number of troops in Iraq and should not be interpreted as a move to either decrease or increase the size of the military there."

I wonder how much "support" will be there if we have to re-institute the draft....especially after we add Iran to our "to-do" list.
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kyyankgrrl,Jun 20 2006
08:51 PM
The story is that we are making NO reductions in troop strength in Iraq for the forseeable future.

No, that is decidedly not the story.
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kyyankgrrl,Jun 20 2006
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"Defense officials said the announcement makes no major changes to the number of troops in Iraq and should not be interpreted as a move to either decrease or increase the size of the military there."

I wonder how much "support" will be there if we have to re-institute the draft....especially after we add Iran to our "to-do" list.

Ha! The draft! Trotting out that tired old argument. It was tried three years ago and did not scare anyone and did not happen. It was tried two years ago and did not scare anyone and did not happen. It was tried one year ago and did not scare anyone and did not happen. You are trying it again and and again it will not scare anyone and it will not happen.
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kyyankgrrl,Jun 20 2006
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"Defense officials said the announcement makes no major changes to the number of troops in Iraq and should not be interpreted as a move to either decrease or increase the size of the military there."

I wonder how much "support" will be there if we have to re-institute the draft....especially after we add Iran to our "to-do" list.

Ha! The draft! Trotting out that tired old argument. It was tried three years ago and did not scare anyone and did not happen. It was tried two years ago and did not scare anyone and did not happen. It was tried one year ago and did not scare anyone and did not happen. You are trying it again and and again it will not scare anyone and it will not happen.

And where do you expect this bottomless supply of troops to come from, as we continue to open new war fronts without completing ANY of them???
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Ha!  The draft!  Trotting out that tired old argument.  It was tried three years ago and did not scare anyone and did not happen.  It was tried two years ago and did not scare anyone and did not happen.  It was tried one year ago and did not scare anyone and did not happen.  You are trying it again and and again it will not scare anyone and it will not happen.

And where do you expect this bottomless supply of troops to come from, as we continue to open new war fronts without completing ANY of them???

What bottomless supply??? The article you posted noted a recent 11,000 troop (8%) decrease! Let's get the facts right.
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Where did the article mention an 11,000-troop reduction? It mentions that the numbers are down from the AVERAGE of 138,000 of the past year, but are STILL higher than the less than 100,000 military officials had hoped to have in place by the end of the year.

I suppose if you are grasping at straws to make this military action look like a "success", you could count fatalities as a "troop reduction". Shameful.
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kyyankgrrl,Jun 20 2006
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Where did the article mention an 11,000-troop reduction? It mentions that the numbers are down from the AVERAGE of 138,000 of the past year, but are STILL higher than the less than 100,000 military officials had hoped to have in place by the end of the year.

I suppose if you are grasping at straws to make this military action look like a "success", you could count fatalities as a "troop reduction". Shameful.

138,000-127,000 = 11,000. But, if you really want to highlight the word "average," then that means that, at some point over the year, there were more than 138,000 troops, which also means there was a greater decrease than 11,000! So, which way you wanna spin this? Doesn't matter to me.
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i simply dont beleive we have the troops too invade iran...so basically thats out of the question for now
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JABlovesastros,Jun 21 2006
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i simply dont beleive we have the troops too invade iran...so basically thats out of the question for now

We'll have enough troops if the draft is re-instituted. Then the President can fulfill his obvious fantasy of seeing just how many warfronts he can open simultaneously.
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naw...we wont have the draft
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kyyankgrrl,Jun 21 2006
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We'll have enough troops if the draft is re-instituted. Then the President can fulfill his obvious fantasy of seeing just how many warfronts he can open simultaneously.

The guy can't win. The president is now getting bashed for a non-existent draft and for "his obvious fantasies." Let's base our opinions on facts, not perceived fantasies!
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JABlovesastros,Jun 21 2006
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naw...we wont have the draft

Why not? If we continue on our course of opening hostilities with other nations WITHOUT RESOLVING existing conflicts, we will need far more troops than we now have.

There's a reason why they have young men register for the selective service rolls when they turn 18.....

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kyyankgrrl,Jun 21 2006
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Why not? If we continue on our course of opening hostilities with other nations WITHOUT RESOLVING existing conflicts, we will need far more troops than we now have.

There's a reason why they have young men register for the selective service rolls when they turn 18.....

ya but i dont see it happening


just cause its there doesnt mean it will happen
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kyyankgrrl,Jun 21 2006
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Why not? If we continue on our course of opening hostilities with other nations WITHOUT RESOLVING existing conflicts, we will need far more troops than we now have.

There's a reason why they have young men register for the selective service rolls when they turn 18.....

Why not? Because the only people talking about a draft are folks on the left like you! The people in charge have zero intention of instituting a draft. The draft is merely a feeble scare tactic from the left.
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iraq has and will always be a war that had to happen but had some [vulgarity deleted] planing and we are going to be stuck there for the next 10 years
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Which leads me to wonder....how many future presidents will be burdened by this mess Bush has created in the Middle East?
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