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| British_Pharaoh | Jul 5 2006, 05:26 AM Post #1 |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/5149512.stm North Korea has test-fired a seventh missile, Japanese and South Korean officials have said. The launch took place at 1722 Japan time (0822 GMT), according to local media reports. The news comes hours after North Korea test-fired at least six missiles, including a long-range Taepodong-2, sparking global condemnation. The UN Security Council is due to hold an emergency meeting later on Wednesday to discuss the developments. The closed UN session was requested by Japan, which said it was co-ordinating its response to the missile tests with the US and other countries. Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi told reporters he had information that Pyongyang had launched a seventh missile. He said continued dialogue was necessary to defuse the standoff. "We need both pressure and dialogue," Mr Koizumi said. "There will be no solution without dialogue." Japanese and South Korean military are on high alert in the wake of the tests, and share prices have fallen in both countries. See the possible range of North Korea's missiles Pyongyang remained defiant. A foreign ministry official said such launches were a matter of national sovereignty, Japanese media reported. Correspondents say Pyongyang may see this action as a way to get attention and break the diplomatic log jam over stalled talks on its nuclear capabilities. The earlier missile launches came as the US celebrated its Independence Day holiday and launched the space shuttle from Florida. Heightened alert According to US officials, the North fired at least six missiles over a four-hour period, beginning at 0332 Japan time (1832 GMT Tuesday). US officials said the Taepodong missile - thought capable of reaching Alaska - failed shortly after take-off, while the others fell into the Sea of Japan. The US called the tests "provocative", while Japan announced sanctions. Tokyo - one of North Korea's harshest critics, and in easy reach of a long-range missile - said it would ban the entry of North Korean officials, chartered flights and a ferry. Analysts said the firing - Pyongyang's first test of a long-range missile since a self-imposed moratorium in 1999 - would also seriously damage prospects for stalled international talks on the North's nuclear programme. The US and North Korea's neighbours have been on heightened alert in recent weeks amid suspicions that Pyongyang was preparing to launch the Taepodong-2, which has a range of up to 6,000 km (3,730 miles), putting parts of the US within striking distance. The BBC's Charles Scanlon in Seoul says the North has been feeling under pressure and ignored in recent months, with the US refusing to negotiate on its demands over its nuclear plans. Long-running talks over North Korea's nuclear capabilities have stalled, with six-party negotiations on the issue being repeatedly postponed as neither Washington nor Pyongyang are prepared to give ground. The last time North Korea tested a long-range missile was in 1998, when it launched a Taepodong-1 over northern Japan. |
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| TheHugeUnit | Jul 5 2006, 08:47 AM Post #2 |
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Come on CC
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Send pat roberson to assassinate kim |
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| kyyankgrrl | Jul 5 2006, 04:03 PM Post #3 |
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Why is it OK for the U.S. to have WMDs, but no one else? And what right do we have to bully other nations? Maybe....just maybe....other nations see the U.S.'s military might and recent military actions in other nations....as a threat to THEM. |
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| COWBOY | Jul 5 2006, 04:12 PM Post #4 |
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how would they feel threatened? we help all the nations of the world... If a countries in jeopardy we go and help every time |
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| kyyankgrrl | Jul 5 2006, 04:14 PM Post #5 |
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Not all of the nations we "help" want our help (Iraq). All too often, we don't go into other countries to "help"....we go to further our own agenda and influence.....something we accused the Soviets of doing for over 40 years. And in some places, like the Darfur region of the Sudan, we completely ignore the genocide going on....but then, there's no oil for us to fight for there. |
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| COWBOY | Jul 5 2006, 04:53 PM Post #6 |
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we have plenty of oil in the us...but enviromentalists dont let us drill for it...the chinese pretty much steal are oil by offshore drilling |
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| kyyankgrrl | Jul 5 2006, 04:59 PM Post #7 |
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I agree. They protest drilling in the arctic reserve, then drive off in their gas-guzzling SUVs.... :wacko: |
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| YankeeFan | Jul 10 2006, 06:13 AM Post #8 |
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You've got to be kidding me. I guess you need to brush up on your American History lessons and read something else than a liberal rag like the New York Times. First of all look these things up: 1. How much the US gives the UN on an anual basis? 2. How much aid did the US give to post WWII Europe? It's funny people who whine about the US not going through the UN to get approval to invade Iraq also have a gripe over the US not protecting other nations? Um isn't the UN supposed to be the United NATIONS? Not the "place where a lot of US money goes, but is filled with scandals such as 'oil for food'" The United States is always going to take action in favor of its and its allies best interest. If other nations really want the UN to work, then it is up to them to DO SOMETHING to stop oppresion in other areas such as the Sudan which you mentioned in your post. Please, you may not agree with the war in Iraq, but don't go off saying America doesn't help the world. If it wasn't for America there would be no free world to defend right now. Maybe it has something to do with age, I'm not sure what, but can we start appreciating how much we have and stop taking it for granted? Have a nice day. |
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| YankeeFan | Jul 10 2006, 06:19 AM Post #9 |
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Oh and one more thing, who are you to take the voice of the Iraqi people and claim they don't want help? Seriously have you even come close to suffering horrific punishments such as your toenails being ripped off from your body with iron tools? Have you seen your family murdered? I have a good idea. Let's stick to speaking for ourselves, not an opressed people. |
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| YankeeFan | Jul 10 2006, 06:27 AM Post #10 |
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It's not ok for dictators who starve their people, kidnap/rape women, etc... to have WMD sorry. I mean maybe you think everyone should be equally armed, but I'm a supporter of America, not North Korea. And good I'd be glad if NK felt threatened by our other military actions around the globe. I want those who don't have the same democratic philosophy of freedom that the US does to cower in fear. The US needs to demand respect from the world and start laying down the law. |
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| kyyankgrrl | Jul 13 2006, 04:02 AM Post #11 |
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But of course you're right, the Iraqi people show us just how much they want us there by planting roadside bombs that daily injure and kill our soldiers. Get a clue....the U.S., one of the greatest oppressors in history, has no interest in spreading "freedom". The U.S. is a money-worshipping society that has one goal and one goal only - to open markets so we can exploit the natural resources of other lands. You ever see the U.S. go in and "help" another country that didn't have something we wanted? You say you want other nations to cower in fear of the U.S.....well guess what, the terrorists say the same thing about the U.S. And you know what? It's all a bunch of macho-male nonsense. It is that attitude that makes it obvious that there is far too much testosterone calling the shots in this world. And save your breath, all you "if you don't like America leave it" people. I love this nation - but I don't and won't put on rose-colored glasses and pretend we are a kind, benevolent nation just out to make the world a better place. We are just as manipulative and control-obsessed as the nations we criticize. |
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| DaeHan | Jul 13 2006, 04:27 AM Post #12 |
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so they've used all our money we've gave them to help citizens to build some crappy missiles.. |
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| YankeeFan | Jul 13 2006, 02:54 PM Post #13 |
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Insurgents from other countries are the ones killing the US soldiers... and I'm glad you think the US is one of the greatest opressors in the history of the world. Sure we haven't been perfect, no nation has a clean slate when it comes to slavery, equal rights for all races, etc... But based on WWII alone, the United States literally saved the world. If the USA had stayed neutral the Axis would have clearly won. I guess it was wrong of us to join WWII. If Pearl Harbor happened in modern times, people would be saying "THE USA DID THIS TO ITSELF!" and "GERMANY WAS NOT BEHIND 12/7!!!!!!!" "WE can't WIN!" etc... Yes the US has helped several nations that have little to offer. Do you realize how much money we've spent!? If we were so greedy wouldn't we find a much more cost-effective way to benefit from conflicts? |
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| Cubbies10 | Jul 13 2006, 03:04 PM Post #14 |
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Just on 1 little note, i think it is a little far fetched to think that you saved the World, we had survived the battle of britain and stopped Hitlers advance to the West. The Russians had changed sides and were no pushing from the East. No doubt you played a important role in supplying ammunition and artillery and eventually sending troops, but to say you saved the world with your involvment is a little far fetched. If you were just using it as a over exagerated comparison then fair enough, just didnt like the wording.
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| YankeeFan | Jul 13 2006, 03:14 PM Post #15 |
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No really the US saved the world. You seem to have a pretty good general understanding of how the war played out, but imagine if Britain and the Soviet Union had recieved no supplies from the USA? Japan would have been able to completely dominate the Eastern Hemisphere. It took the US a while to get troops to the European theater, but consider if they weren't able to get there at all!? The USAF was absolutely instrumental in bombing Nazi Germany into oblivion and the USA swept through North Africa. I didn't intend to take any credit away from the Brits especially, they survived the most lethal continuous airstrike in the history of war with great resolve, but they were in no position to take on Nazi Germany after losing so much defending their homeland. The Soviets also fought with great vigor on the Eastern front, however without US aid in terms of technology and money they would have eventually fallen into a peace treaty with Hitler. Honestly I'm not making this stuff up, its been thought about, discussed, and debated numerous times. |
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| Cubbies10 | Jul 13 2006, 03:19 PM Post #16 |
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Oh no doubt, being a history student it is something i have interest in. Im sorry if my responce came across as the US didnt help at all, they did and they played a Huge Roll, but there is something about the words 'Save The World' that i can't be comfortable with. We have to be thankfull that the US came into the War without them (Troop wise) who knows how long it would of continued. But Hitler was no general, and his tactics and military knowledge was becoming more erratic as the war progressed, even in 1941 when the US entered the war he was starting to over estimate germanys own military power. Like i say im not doubting that the US was a major factor in winning the war, theres just something about those words that doesntsit right with me. No worries, off topic of what is being discussed, although i guess related
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| YankeeFan | Jul 13 2006, 03:29 PM Post #17 |
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You make a good point. Attempts on hitler's life were made by people in Germany who saw either his social logic and/or military planning to be weak/twisted. It is very hard to control the world, however Hitler and the Axis Powers came darn near close to doing so. The war would have continued for much longer if the US was not involved, however consider this: The Germans were developing the atomic bomb during the war, if the war dragged on for even another 3 or 4 years... You see my point? |
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| Cubbies10 | Jul 13 2006, 03:35 PM Post #18 |
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Oh Absoluterly, i 100% agree with the point you were making, it is just the wording, but it really doesnt matter.
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| kyyankgrrl | Jul 13 2006, 03:45 PM Post #19 |
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I'm curious....if a foreign country invaded the U.S., what would you do? Surely you wouldn't fight back and be an "insurgent"..... |
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| KillerK | Jul 13 2006, 04:15 PM Post #20 |
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You seem to forgot all these suicide bombs and roadside bombs killing Iraqi police are not by citizen who decided to take a stand. These roadside bombs are from people of terrosist groups inside Iraq. And these terrosists have had hatred towards the U.S since the 80's when it really starting showing. So dont act like there doing this because the U.S has sent tropps to Iraq. There just acxting on a golden oppturnitity to take a few Americans for one iof there own. Of course we have interest in "freedom" and helping others. In case you didnt know Sadam was mass killing and bombing Kurdish civilians because he personally did not like them. That also played a major part in why we invaded Iraq and made Sadam leave. And if you dont believe me look at some of the first activity U.S troops had. They kicked Sadam out and freeded all of the trapped Kurdish people that Sadam was mass killing. Now dont take me wrong im not saying Oil didnt play a major part in going in but Oil was not thge biggest or main reason why we invaded Iraq. So, What did Vietnam have that we wanted? What did Korea have that we wanted? Hell what did Germany have that we wanted? Im wouldnt go as far and say I would like other countries to cower in fear of us. I would say i would liket he world to respect us. If we never went into Iraq or Afganistan where would we be? Iraq would still be in the same state it is in but Al Quada and other terrosist groups would be fighting over control of Iraq. Mass killing would happen to people that terrosists groups did not like. Afganistan would be making and prioducing mass weapons that would likely result in millions of civilian deaths. Bin Ladan would still be making terrosist plots to harm the U.S. and Al-Zareawi would still be in his hole controlling people to kill themselfs for him to harm and kill a few civilians. |
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