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The Young Guns
Topic Started: Jul 22 2006, 02:26 AM (421 Views)
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The 2006 season has provided many new young pitchers so far, making a name for themselves. Some such as Francisco Liriano, Justin Verlander, Scotty Kazmir, Joel Zumaya and other studs. What do you guys think about all of them, who do you like the most? I dont really follow the other teams pitchers besides the Giants, so I am going to share a few words about Matt Cain, and then someone else here can share something about their teams new pitcher.

Cain has been very streaky in 2006, one start he is lights out and the next he has 110 pitches by the 5th inning. He has mostly had bad starts this season, going through the league for a 2nd time, as that usually happens to a pitcher. For example, earlier this year he had a 1 hitter against the Oakland Athletics, and when he faced them again in June, the A's hitters have obviously adjusted and squashed him. Thats what happens to a young pitcher. What are some things that have really impressed me about Matt Cain? Well, he has had good success keeping the ball in the park this year. In 106 IP, he has only given up 11 HR's, which is about avearge, but pretty good for him considering he is mainly a fly ball pitcher. I am also impressed how he handles himself when the inning gets off rough, if he gives up a base hit to start an inning, he does crap his pants like Jermey Accardo. Remember, Cain is only 20 years old! Also, I love the fact that he doesnt give up many hits. In 106IP, he has given up only 88 hits, thats awesome, especially for a rookie. Which brings me to what he needs to work on. Matt Cain has terrible control issues. You won't believe how many 3 ball counts he gets into. Despite the low number of hits given up, he has 52 walks! Thats a lot! Control is something that he just has to develop though, and he has plenty of time to do it. Tonight, Cain really showed what kind of pitcher he is when he has his control.

Tonights statline: 8.2 IP, 7 Hits, 5 K's, 2 ER. Almost went the complete game, but had trouble getting the last out, besides that, had a shutout :) . And only one walk he gave up! Thats how good he is going to be when he really develops his control. And his K totals will rise aswell.

So, thats what I have to say about Cain. Anyone else want to share something about their teams young stud?
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I like Liriano the best, because he is the best out of that bunch. He could even win the Cy Young this year.
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I prefer Kazmir out of those lot


he's probably best in the long run
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im inpressed with liriano and kazmir the most they have done the best job all year
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Liriano's gonna be great in the league but don't sleep on any of the young Marlins pitchers. ;)
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verlander is awesome. he's our best pitcher.

zumaya is just incredible. throwing 103 mph fastballs is amazing. his freakin change up is like 83 mph.
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detroittigerfan28,Jul 22 2006
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verlander is awesome. he's our best pitcher.

zumaya is just incredible. throwing 103 mph fastballs is amazing. his freakin change up is like 83 mph.

He doesn't really throw 103.
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PAUL KONERKO 14,Jul 22 2006
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verlander is awesome. he's our best pitcher.

zumaya is just incredible. throwing 103 mph fastballs is amazing. his freakin change up is like 83 mph.

He doesn't really throw 103.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Zumaya

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The official record according to the Guiness Book of World Records is 101 MPH by Nolan Ryan in 1974. However, the fastest observed speed (although not official) was a pitch from Mark Wohlers during spring training in 1995, which allegedly clocked in 103 MPH. On July 4, 2006 at McAfee Coliseum in Oakland, California, Zumaya threw a pitch clocked at 103 MPH, thus tying the record "unofficially" held by Wohlers. On July 20, 2006 in a game against the Chicago White Sox, Zumaya threw a fastball that speedguns recorded at 104 MPH, setting a new record for fastest recorded pitch.


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Joel Zumaya on Tuesday night. In two innings of work, Zumaya threw 42 pitches, 10 of which registered 100 m.p.h. or faster on the radar gun. Zumaya threw one pitch 103 m.p.h. and 13 others that registered 98 or 99 m.p.h...
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PAUL KONERKO 14,Jul 22 2006
03:57 PM
detroittigerfan28,Jul 22 2006
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verlander is awesome. he's our best pitcher.

zumaya is just incredible. throwing 103 mph fastballs is amazing. his freakin change up is like 83 mph.

He doesn't really throw 103.

I was watching the game when they played, I think the last one, and he hit 103.
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PAUL KONERKO 14,Jul 22 2006
02:57 PM
detroittigerfan28,Jul 22 2006
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verlander is awesome. he's our best pitcher.

zumaya is just incredible. throwing 103 mph fastballs is amazing. his freakin change up is like 83 mph.

He doesn't really throw 103.

yes he really does.
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verlander is awesome. he's our best pitcher.

zumaya is just incredible. throwing 103 mph fastballs is amazing. his freakin change up is like 83 mph.

He doesn't really throw 103.

yes he really does.

:lol: :lol:

Aw, you read the thing where it says the MPH at the top of the screen?
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verlander is awesome. he's our best pitcher.

zumaya is just incredible. throwing 103 mph fastballs is amazing. his freakin change up is like 83 mph.

He doesn't really throw 103.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Zumaya



http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/2006/07...ts/14995575.htm


Notice it says unofficial.
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Liriano and Papelbon have been amazing. It is going to be tough to choose the ROTY this year. They are also both good canidates for the Cy Young award this year.
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PAUL KONERKO 14,Jul 25 2006
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detroittigerfan28,Jul 22 2006
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verlander is awesome. he's our best pitcher.

zumaya is just incredible. throwing 103 mph fastballs is amazing. his freakin change up is like 83 mph.

He doesn't really throw 103.

yes he really does.

:lol: :lol:

Aw, you read the thing where it says the MPH at the top of the screen?

he HAS thrown 103 before. get over it. i was at the game when he did it. there's no denying that he's good so stop trying ;)
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PAUL KONERKO 14,Jul 25 2006
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detroittigerfan28,Jul 22 2006
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verlander is awesome. he's our best pitcher.

zumaya is just incredible. throwing 103 mph fastballs is amazing. his freakin change up is like 83 mph.

He doesn't really throw 103.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Zumaya



http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/2006/07...ts/14995575.htm


Notice it says unofficial.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=260720106

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Rookie Joel Zumaya (5-1) gave up one hit in the seventh and eighth -- throwing between 84-102 mph.


Does that one say unnoffical?
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Anyone ever heard of Jon Papelbon? You know, the guy with the ERA under 1.
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Papelbon and Liriano.

But one question:

Is Papelbon considered a rookie this year? I thought he pitched enough innings to be considered a rookie LAST year?
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not this argument again....

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Moose,Jul 26 2006
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Papelbon and Liriano.

But one question:

Is Papelbon considered a rookie this year? I thought he pitched enough innings to be considered a rookie LAST year?

hes still a rookie
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verlander is awesome. he's our best pitcher.

zumaya is just incredible. throwing 103 mph fastballs is amazing. his freakin change up is like 83 mph.

He doesn't really throw 103.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Zumaya



http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/2006/07...ts/14995575.htm


Notice it says unofficial.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=260720106



Does that one say unnoffical?

niiiiice ;)
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