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| Are Smoltz and Schilling HOFers? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 28 2006, 10:01 PM (195 Views) | |
| NateFizzle | Jul 28 2006, 10:01 PM Post #1 |
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| knuckleballer28 | Jul 28 2006, 10:06 PM Post #2 |
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I agree... Smoltz and Schill should go to The Hall. |
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| braveschopbraves | Jul 28 2006, 10:09 PM Post #3 |
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Schilling: NO Wins: Blyleven 287 Kaat 283 Schilling 192 ERA: Blyleven 3.31 Schilling 3.40 Kaat 3.45 Blyleven is not in the HOF Kaat is not in the HOF why should Schilling be in? Just cause of 8 postseason wins? I don't think so... |
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| knuckleballer28 | Jul 28 2006, 10:16 PM Post #4 |
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Come on BCB, you should know that in today's Major Leagues with 5-man rotations there is almost no way to get 300 wins (Clemens, Maddux, and almost Glavine are exceptions). That is why we will never see a 30 game winner again because of this and pitch counts. You gotta adjust your standards and take into account the fact that baseball is changing. BTW, I got Kaat, Blyleven, Smoltz, and Schilling baseball cards. Go figure |
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| RedRuffing15 | Jul 28 2006, 10:16 PM Post #5 |
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hmm...Well I guess Don Larsons has been snubbed for 34 years...since he has the greatest Postseason proformance ever. |
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| RedRuffing15 | Jul 28 2006, 10:17 PM Post #6 |
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So Jamy Moyers a lock, since he played in this day and age of baseball, and ALL his numbers are better than Schillings |
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| NHOI | Jul 28 2006, 10:18 PM Post #7 |
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I think they both deserve it. You can't compare them to pitchers of the past, you have to compare them to the pitchers of their generation. They both pitched vs a bunch of roided up players and were dominating. Schilling had the great 04 postseason run and Smoltz had the stint as a dominant closer just to top it off. |
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| knuckleballer28 | Jul 28 2006, 10:20 PM Post #8 |
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The thing is, you never hear anyone acknowledge Moyer as a great pitcher. To get in the HOF, a pitcher should be someone who strikes fear into hitters. |
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| braveschopbraves | Jul 28 2006, 10:22 PM Post #9 |
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Well then people who throw 102 MPH will get into the HOF... if that's the case, Maddux shouldn't go in |
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| NateFizzle | Jul 28 2006, 10:22 PM Post #10 |
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Wow, everybody has been using horrible logic in here. |
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| knuckleballer28 | Jul 28 2006, 10:24 PM Post #11 |
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But people know when they go up against Maddux that they are going up against a 1st Ballot HOFer. Thats the kind of fear I am talking about. You understand that kind of fear Braveschopbraves? |
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| KeepTheFaith | Jul 28 2006, 10:25 PM Post #12 |
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I think if Schilling finishes out this year strong and has a solid year next year he's got a decent chance. |
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| knuckleballer28 | Jul 28 2006, 10:26 PM Post #13 |
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No man I have been using good logic. |
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| braveschopbraves | Jul 28 2006, 10:29 PM Post #14 |
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yes I understand that, and I was exaggerating.... but fear shouldn't be a reason why people do/don't get into the HOF.... I'm more scared of someone who throws 103 and half the pitches are at the head than someone who has a nice big curve and tops out at 85 but has a good variety of pitches.... I wouldn't be mad if Schilling makes it... |
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| knuckleballer28 | Jul 28 2006, 10:30 PM Post #15 |
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This fear I am talking about is more like a respect for the pitcher. |
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| braveschopbraves | Jul 28 2006, 10:31 PM Post #16 |
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still shouldn't be a reason to judge if someone should be in the HOF.... |
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| knuckleballer28 | Jul 28 2006, 10:34 PM Post #17 |
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Didn't I say that this fear/respect would be part of the factors that decide whether a guy goes into the HOF? If I didn't say it then I have said it now. |
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| Cab1091 | Jul 29 2006, 09:03 AM Post #18 |
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I think both of them deserve to go to the Hall. |
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| jaysdude09 | Jul 29 2006, 09:15 AM Post #19 |
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Both will end up in the hall. |
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Jul 29 2006, 09:17 AM Post #20 |
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I think Schilling will probably go in, but Smoltz will fall short. If he wins 300 games, which I doubt, he'll go in. How many people have a 50 save season and a 20 win season? |
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