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Baseball would be better off without Yanks/Sox
Topic Started: Aug 1 2006, 03:40 PM (811 Views)
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Look, I love the redsox, i was crazy happy to see them finally win it, but gimme a break, that was 2 years ago, and theres a different reigning champion. being an astro fan, i wasnt suprised to see us getting shitted on this season, but the whitesox got almost as little as us at the beginning of the season. they picked it up since then but now that theyre kind of slumping, theyre out the door again. look at the tigers, who are having a franchise season, and the twins, two teams that are having awesome seasons and they are constantly overshadowed. the astros won 14-1 last night, and roy oswalt hit his first career homerun, but what came first on all the sportscasts, yankees-redsox. its just ridiculous, I know the whole rivalry kept baseball popular over the years and definitely expanded its viewership, but theres 28 other teams out there that also deserve some respect. sorry about the rant.
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Rathan,Aug 11 2006
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I know the whole rivalry kept baseball popular over the years and definitely expanded its viewership

Even that didn't happen.

McGwire/Sosa, and, on a lesser note, Ripken's run at Gehrig's record saved baseball.

The Yankees/Red Sox thing gets so much play because that's what numbers show will keep people interested - because of the large markets and fan base. Unfortunately, they're right.

Honestly, though, it's extremely overdone. Any Yankees or Red Sox fan is going to disagree - I can't blame them - but when your team is getting no coverage, while ESPN is shutting down everything and showing every little slip-up Alex Rodriguez thinks about making, it starts to get a little annoying.
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What's a league without a rivalry? If you took away the money spendin' Red Sox and Yankees, you'd be left with what? Dodgers vs. Giants? Cubs vs. Cards?
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Red Sox owner John Henry is concerned about the bottom line (he eliminated the discount on obstructed view seating, got rid of Friday night free tv broadcasts of Red Sox games, took a player to court to get back a baseball he kept, charges the highest ticket prices in baseball, kept the money he saved by not resigning Pedro nor Damon and didn't put it into the team and did nothing at the trading deadline.
Yankee owner George Steinbrenner puts all of his profits into the team and then some more. He wants the team to win and puts his money where his mouth is.



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RastaMongoose74,Aug 11 2006
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Honestly, though, it's extremely overdone. Any Yankees or Red Sox fan is going to disagree - I can't blame them - but when your team is getting no coverage, while ESPN is shutting down everything and showing every little slip-up Alex Rodriguez thinks about making, it starts to get a little annoying.

I'm not going to disagree, I personally hate seeing them talk about the Yankees at all, becuase they change day to day.

All I remember is last year(this year, too)

Yankees Won't Make the Playoffs
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(Last day of the season)Yankees have a fair shot to make the playoffs.






I personally feel people overhype television coverage, Do I need Buster Only to tell me Randy Johnson has a high ERA? Well, I though 5.78 was good, but now that Buster told me it was high, it must be, how could I have been so stupid. Maybe Red Sox fans like their coverage, I wouldn't know, but all I know is that the Yankees need to go 162-0 every year with a 15 run margin of victory, or their going to get not positive coverage on ESPN. Over the years there have become only several times when I like to see the Yankees on the TV, when they hit a milestone, when they win a playoff set, and when its all said and done, and their on top.
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youre annoyance with it shows that it really is the greatest rivalry of all time...
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without the yanks/sox rivalry baseball would be nothing. it is the greatest rivalry in the history of sports.
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ReN0,Aug 14 2006
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without the yanks/sox rivalry baseball would be nothing. it is the greatest rivalry in the history of sports.

Baseball would be nothing, huh?

That's interesting, considering that until ESPN came around and started hyping it up because of the ratings that came with their respective fan bases, it was no different than the Cubs/Cards..

And baseball seemed to be doing just dandy.
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Yanks/Sox is the most o...........oh, just forget it
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Yeah, we could really do away with them. We don't need high ratings on nationally televised games. More people getting into baseball. An exciting rivalry. Just get rid or all that.

And who needs playoff drama!?! Last year's playoffs sucked. Why? It was the White Sox vs. the Astros, and the White Sox vs. the Angels before that. No Sox coming back from the brink of elimination and sweeping the WS.
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Yeah, we could really do away with them. We don't need high ratings on nationally televised games. More people getting into baseball. An exciting rivalry. Just get rid or all that.

And who needs playoff drama!?! Last year's playoffs sucked. Why? It was the White Sox vs. the Astros, and the White Sox vs. the Angels before that. No Sox coming back from the brink of elimination and sweeping the WS.

The World Series in '05 was better then the '04 season. They both were sweeps but the games were closer in '05 with a couple walk off and extra inning homers.
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RastaMongoose74,Aug 11 2006
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Ripken's run at Gehrig's record saved baseball.

...?

How can a consecutive games played streak save baseball? Nobody watches a game just to watch Ripken show up.
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Yeah, we could really do away with them. We don't need high ratings on nationally televised games. More people getting into baseball. An exciting rivalry. Just get rid or all that.

And who needs playoff drama!?! Last year's playoffs sucked. Why? It was the White Sox vs. the Astros, and the White Sox vs. the Angels before that. No Sox coming back from the brink of elimination and sweeping the WS.

The World Series in '05 was better then the '04 season. They both were sweeps but the games were closer in '05 with a couple walk off and extra inning homers.

I disagree. Last year's playoffs sucked, IMO. It's no fun to see sweeps, first of all. Second of all, there was muuuch more drama in 04... And it was cool to see the Red Sox break such a huge drought and a "curse".

And yes, I know the White Sox had a drought too.

I personally think a World Series into Game 7 would be the coolest thing ever.
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I remember a news story right after the ALCS and NLCS but before the start of the '05 WS....they talked to Chicago fans.....and practically ALL of them said they really didn't care if the White Sox won the WS, because Chicago is a CUBS town.

During the Yanks last trip to Minnesota, I heard a reporter say that the Twins are usually lucky to have 20-25,000 fans at their games....but when the Yanks come to town, they had sell-outs for the entire series. And I know Minnesota isn't the only place that happens.

So while you're busy bashing the Yanks, remember that if it wasn't for the Yanks and Red Sox, a lot of these smaller market teams wouldn't have a pot to piss in, or a window to throw it out of.
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Yeah, we could really do away with them. We don't need high ratings on nationally televised games. More people getting into baseball. An exciting rivalry. Just get rid or all that.

And who needs playoff drama!?! Last year's playoffs sucked. Why? It was the White Sox vs. the Astros, and the White Sox vs. the Angels before that. No Sox coming back from the brink of elimination and sweeping the WS.

The World Series in '05 was better then the '04 season. They both were sweeps but the games were closer in '05 with a couple walk off and extra inning homers.

I disagree. Last year's playoffs sucked, IMO. It's no fun to see sweeps, first of all. Second of all, there was muuuch more drama in 04... And it was cool to see the Red Sox break such a huge drought and a "curse".

And yes, I know the White Sox had a drought too.

I personally think a World Series into Game 7 would be the coolest thing ever.

Obviously game 7s are better, but the 05 WS was way better then 04 WS.
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Yeah, we could really do away with them. We don't need high ratings on nationally televised games. More people getting into baseball. An exciting rivalry. Just get rid or all that.

And who needs playoff drama!?! Last year's playoffs sucked. Why? It was the White Sox vs. the Astros, and the White Sox vs. the Angels before that. No Sox coming back from the brink of elimination and sweeping the WS.

The World Series in '05 was better then the '04 season. They both were sweeps but the games were closer in '05 with a couple walk off and extra inning homers.

I disagree. Last year's playoffs sucked, IMO. It's no fun to see sweeps, first of all. Second of all, there was muuuch more drama in 04... And it was cool to see the Red Sox break such a huge drought and a "curse".

And yes, I know the White Sox had a drought too.

I personally think a World Series into Game 7 would be the coolest thing ever.

I totally agree, '04 PO was much more fun than '05 POs. ALCS and NLCS was really exciting because it was a really close call, and Redsox broke the infamous Bambino's Curse.
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NateFizzle,Aug 16 2006
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Crushed Optimism,Aug 16 2006
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NateFizzle,Aug 15 2006
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Element,Aug 15 2006
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Yeah, we could really do away with them. We don't need high ratings on nationally televised games. More people getting into baseball. An exciting rivalry. Just get rid or all that.

And who needs playoff drama!?! Last year's playoffs sucked. Why? It was the White Sox vs. the Astros, and the White Sox vs. the Angels before that. No Sox coming back from the brink of elimination and sweeping the WS.

The World Series in '05 was better then the '04 season. They both were sweeps but the games were closer in '05 with a couple walk off and extra inning homers.

I disagree. Last year's playoffs sucked, IMO. It's no fun to see sweeps, first of all. Second of all, there was muuuch more drama in 04... And it was cool to see the Red Sox break such a huge drought and a "curse".

And yes, I know the White Sox had a drought too.

I personally think a World Series into Game 7 would be the coolest thing ever.

Obviously game 7s are better, but the 05 WS was way better then 04 WS.

Care to explain why? Because you're a White Sox fan?
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Crushed Optimism,Aug 16 2006
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NateFizzle,Aug 16 2006
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Crushed Optimism,Aug 16 2006
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NateFizzle,Aug 15 2006
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Element,Aug 15 2006
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Yeah, we could really do away with them. We don't need high ratings on nationally televised games. More people getting into baseball. An exciting rivalry. Just get rid or all that.

And who needs playoff drama!?! Last year's playoffs sucked. Why? It was the White Sox vs. the Astros, and the White Sox vs. the Angels before that. No Sox coming back from the brink of elimination and sweeping the WS.

The World Series in '05 was better then the '04 season. They both were sweeps but the games were closer in '05 with a couple walk off and extra inning homers.

I disagree. Last year's playoffs sucked, IMO. It's no fun to see sweeps, first of all. Second of all, there was muuuch more drama in 04... And it was cool to see the Red Sox break such a huge drought and a "curse".

And yes, I know the White Sox had a drought too.

I personally think a World Series into Game 7 would be the coolest thing ever.

Obviously game 7s are better, but the 05 WS was way better then 04 WS.

Care to explain why? Because you're a White Sox fan?

I wasn't last year.

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Game 1- 11-9, good offensive game
Game 2- 6-2, Red Sox game whole time
Game 3- 4-1, see above
Game 4- 3-0, see above
Only one game where the Cardinals had a chance.

05
Game 1- 5-3, Close game
Game 2- 7-6, Walk off homerun
Game 3, 7-5, Extra innings
Game 4, 1-0, Pitcher's duel

I'll take extra innings and walk off homers any time.
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