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Best AL/NL team ALL star
Topic Started: Aug 3 2006, 12:55 PM (240 Views)
Fantasy_prodigy
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chiro-rf
Crawford-CF
Pujos-1B
Ortiz-DH
Wright-3B
Ramirez-LF
Utley-2B
Tejada-SS
Martinez-C

Rotation-
Santana
Loriano
Schmidt
Martinez
Halladay

CP- Wagner

RP-Rivera
RP-Hoffman
RP-Ryan


Bench-
Jeter
Soriano
Guerrero
Beltran
Howard
Mauer

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thanks to amped3
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Is this an overall MLB team?
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Fantasy_prodigy,Aug 3 2006
01:55 PM

Tejada-SS

No way is jeter on the bench, he is second in AVG and the second most clutch hitter in baseball and his defense is better than Tejadas. Mauer should start over V-Mart too. V-Mart can't throw anyone out when they advance
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Rockshu
 
I had a dream where I was playing RF for the Yankees against the Red Sox and Joe Torre was yelling at me in the outfield...Helloooooo erection
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Fantasy_prodigy,Aug 3 2006
12:55 PM
chiro-rf
Crawford-CF
Pujos-1B
Ortiz-DH
Wright-3B
Ramirez-LF
Utley-2B
Tejada-SS
Martinez-C

Rotation-
Santana
Loriano
Schmidt
Martinez
Halladay

CP- Wagner

RP-Rivera
RP-Hoffman
RP-Ryan


Bench-
Jeter
Soriano
Guerrero
Beltran
Howard
Mauer

I disagree on just about everything, I am not going to waist my time going into detail.
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TheHugeUnit,Aug 3 2006
12:59 PM
Fantasy_prodigy,Aug 3 2006
01:55 PM

Tejada-SS

No way is jeter on the bench, he is second in AVG and the second most clutch hitter in baseball and his defense is better than Tejadas. Mauer should start over V-Mart too. V-Mart can't throw anyone out when they advance

Jeter has terrible range. He's not a good defensive SS.

EDIT: Looking at RF and Zone, Tejada and Jeter are about the same.
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Crushed Optimism,Aug 3 2006
02:00 PM
TheHugeUnit,Aug 3 2006
12:59 PM
Fantasy_prodigy,Aug 3 2006
01:55 PM

Tejada-SS

No way is jeter on the bench, he is second in AVG and the second most clutch hitter in baseball and his defense is better than Tejadas. Mauer should start over V-Mart too. V-Mart can't throw anyone out when they advance

Jeter has terrible range. He's not a good defensive SS.

WTF thats crazy thats like saying ortiz never hit a walk off homerun. Have you seen any of his turn around plays where he end up by third base where the grass meets the dirt and throws out people
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oeshbach - on his Italians roots
 
not all italians shit their pants

Rockshu
 
I had a dream where I was playing RF for the Yankees against the Red Sox and Joe Torre was yelling at me in the outfield...Helloooooo erection
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Fantasy_prodigy,Aug 3 2006
12:55 PM
chiro-rf
Crawford-CF
Pujos-1B
Ortiz-DH
Wright-3B
Ramirez-LF
Utley-2B
Tejada-SS
Martinez-C

Rotation-
Santana
Loriano
Schmidt
Martinez
Halladay

CP- Wagner

RP-Rivera
RP-Hoffman
RP-Ryan


Bench-
Jeter
Soriano
Guerrero
Beltran
Howard
Mauer

Let me make some switches:

Ichiro-RF
Crawford-CF
Pujols-1B
Ortiz-DH
A-Rod-3B
Ramirez-LF
Cano-2B
Jeter-SS
Mauer-C

Rotation-
Verlander
Liriano
Mussina
Martinez
Halladay

CP- Papelbon

RP- Rivera
RP- Hoffman
RP- Wagner


Bench-
Tejada
Soriano
Guerrero
Beltran
Howard
Martinez
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Crushed Optimism,Aug 3 2006
01:00 PM
TheHugeUnit,Aug 3 2006
12:59 PM
Fantasy_prodigy,Aug 3 2006
01:55 PM

Tejada-SS

No way is jeter on the bench, he is second in AVG and the second most clutch hitter in baseball and his defense is better than Tejadas. Mauer should start over V-Mart too. V-Mart can't throw anyone out when they advance

Jeter has terrible range. He's not a good defensive SS.

WTF, have you ever watched Jeter. I never thought I would veer hear anyone say that. :angry:
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TheBabe714,Aug 3 2006
02:03 PM

Cano-2B

Cano is good, but Utley is a lot better both in Defense and offense
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oeshbach - on his Italians roots
 
not all italians shit their pants

Rockshu
 
I had a dream where I was playing RF for the Yankees against the Red Sox and Joe Torre was yelling at me in the outfield...Helloooooo erection
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TheHugeUnit,Aug 3 2006
01:03 PM
Crushed Optimism,Aug 3 2006
02:00 PM
TheHugeUnit,Aug 3 2006
12:59 PM
Fantasy_prodigy,Aug 3 2006
01:55 PM

Tejada-SS

No way is jeter on the bench, he is second in AVG and the second most clutch hitter in baseball and his defense is better than Tejadas. Mauer should start over V-Mart too. V-Mart can't throw anyone out when they advance

Jeter has terrible range. He's not a good defensive SS.

WTF thats crazy thats like saying ortiz never hit a walk off homerun.

Not really.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stat...ontext=fielding
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TheHugeUnit,Aug 3 2006
01:04 PM
TheBabe714,Aug 3 2006
02:03 PM

Cano-2B

Cano is good, but Utley is a lot better both in Defense and offense

That one I wasn't sure about. :mellow:
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Crushed Optimism,Aug 3 2006
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TheHugeUnit,Aug 3 2006
12:59 PM
Fantasy_prodigy,Aug 3 2006
01:55 PM

Tejada-SS

No way is jeter on the bench, he is second in AVG and the second most clutch hitter in baseball and his defense is better than Tejadas. Mauer should start over V-Mart too. V-Mart can't throw anyone out when they advance

Jeter has terrible range. He's not a good defensive SS.

WTF thats crazy thats like saying ortiz never hit a walk off homerun.

Not really.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stat...ontext=fielding

Stats don't tell the whole story.
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TheBabe714,Aug 3 2006
02:06 PM
Crushed Optimism,Aug 3 2006
01:05 PM
TheHugeUnit,Aug 3 2006
01:03 PM
Crushed Optimism,Aug 3 2006
02:00 PM
TheHugeUnit,Aug 3 2006
12:59 PM
Fantasy_prodigy,Aug 3 2006
01:55 PM

Tejada-SS

No way is jeter on the bench, he is second in AVG and the second most clutch hitter in baseball and his defense is better than Tejadas. Mauer should start over V-Mart too. V-Mart can't throw anyone out when they advance

Jeter has terrible range. He's not a good defensive SS.

WTF thats crazy thats like saying ortiz never hit a walk off homerun.

Not really.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stat...ontext=fielding

Stats don't tell the whole story.

Ya Giambi messed up on some of Jeter throws and Jeter got the error
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oeshbach - on his Italians roots
 
not all italians shit their pants

Rockshu
 
I had a dream where I was playing RF for the Yankees against the Red Sox and Joe Torre was yelling at me in the outfield...Helloooooo erection
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Have you seen any of his turn around plays where he end up by third base where the grass meets the dirt and throws out people


Web gems doesn't make a player defensively good. Truth is, everyone has some web gems. Range is the best thing to evaluate Short Stops on. His isn't bad, but he's no better than Miguel Tejada defensively. He's a totally overrated Short Stop.

"RF: Range Factor ((PO + A) * 9 divided by innings) ZR: Zone rating. The percentage of balls fielded by a player in his typical defensive "zone," as measured by STATS, Inc."
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TheBabe714,Aug 3 2006
01:06 PM
Crushed Optimism,Aug 3 2006
01:05 PM
TheHugeUnit,Aug 3 2006
01:03 PM
Crushed Optimism,Aug 3 2006
02:00 PM
TheHugeUnit,Aug 3 2006
12:59 PM
Fantasy_prodigy,Aug 3 2006
01:55 PM

Tejada-SS

No way is jeter on the bench, he is second in AVG and the second most clutch hitter in baseball and his defense is better than Tejadas. Mauer should start over V-Mart too. V-Mart can't throw anyone out when they advance

Jeter has terrible range. He's not a good defensive SS.

WTF thats crazy thats like saying ortiz never hit a walk off homerun.

Not really.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stat...ontext=fielding

Stats don't tell the whole story.

This stat does.

I'm not even counting in errors. Range.
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Crushed Optimism,Aug 3 2006
01:08 PM

Web gems doesn't make a player defensively good. Truth is, everyone has some web gems. Range is the best thing to evaluate Short Stops on. His isn't bad, but he's no better than Miguel Tejada defensively. He's a totally overrated Short Stop.

"RF: Range Factor ((PO + A) * 9 divided by innings) ZR: Zone rating. The percentage of balls fielded by a player in his typical defensive "zone," as measured by STATS, Inc."

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/stats/ml...3173&statType=1

Look at Tejada, they are just about the same. Then you include the web gems that Jeter makes and Tejada doesn't, then Jeter is the 2nd best clutch hitter in the game, and that is already enough to say Jeter is the best. Then, if you want to, you could say he is a better leader than Tejada.
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Banned
C-Joe Mauer
1B-Albert Pujols
2B-Chase Utley
3B-Freddy Sanchez
SS-Derek Jeter
OF: Ichiro, Matt Holliday, Vernon Wells
DH-David Ortiz

Rotation-
Francisco Liriano
Brandon Webb
Justin Verlander
Chris Carpenter
Roy Halladay



CP- Papelbon

RP- Bobby Jenks
RP- Trevor Hoffman
RP- Jason Isringhausen


Bench-
Chipper Jones
Miguel Cabrera
Miguel Tejada
Mark DeRosa
Gary Matthews
Scott Hatteberg



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Sean Connery: Moo.
Alex Trebek: No.
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Miguel Tejada career Range Factor: 4.76
Miguel Tejada career Zone Rating: .833

Derek Jeter career Range Factor: 4.19
Derek Jeter career Zone Rating: .821
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PAUL KONERKO 14,Aug 3 2006
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Chris Carpenter

RP- Jason Isringhausen


De Rosa, Carpenter, and Isringhausen? Why would you choose them?

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TheBabe714,Aug 3 2006
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Crushed Optimism,Aug 3 2006
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Web gems doesn't make a player defensively good. Truth is, everyone has some web gems. Range is the best thing to evaluate Short Stops on. His isn't bad, but he's no better than Miguel Tejada defensively. He's a totally overrated Short Stop.

"RF: Range Factor ((PO + A) * 9 divided by innings) ZR: Zone rating. The percentage of balls fielded by a player in his typical defensive "zone," as measured by STATS, Inc."

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/stats/ml...3173&statType=1

Look at Tejada, they are just about the same. Then you include the web gems that Jeter makes and Tejada doesn't, then Jeter is the 2nd best clutch hitter in the game, and that is already enough to say Jeter is the best. Then, if you want to, you could say he is a better leader than Tejada.

Come on, that's typical Yankee fan. There's no evidence to back up that statement. Jeter makes web gems and Tejada doesn't? Really, that's new to me. Jeter is a clutch hitter and Tejada isn't? Where's the proof...
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