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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 16 2007, 09:18 AM (555 Views) | |
| kyyankgrrl | Oct 16 2007, 09:18 AM Post #1 |
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MIAMI (AP) — A man convicted of murder for leaving a 5-year-old girl to be eaten alive by alligators in the Everglades was sentenced to death Monday. A defense attorney said Harrel Franklin Braddy, who already served time in prison for attempted murder but was released early for good behavior, had befriended Shandelle Maycock and her daughter, Quatisha, through his involvement in church outreach programs. Maycock testified that Braddy showed up at her house in 1998 and grew enraged when she asked him to leave. Prosecutors said Braddy drove the girl's mother to a remote sugarcane field, choked her to unconsciousness and left her to die. Maycock woke up bleeding and disoriented, but managed to flag down help. Braddy drove the girl to a section of Interstate 75 in the Everglades known as Alligator Alley and dropped her in the water beside the road, prosecutors said. She was alive when alligators bit her on the head and stomach, a medical examiner said. Authorities found the girl's body two days later, her left arm missing and her skull crushed, prosecutors said. Braddy, 58, was convicted in July of first-degree murder, attempted murder, kidnapping, and other charges. Judge Leonard E. Glick also sentenced Braddy to three consecutive life terms for kidnapping and burglary with an assault charges. He also got 30 years in prison for the attempted murder of Maycock, 15 years for child neglect causing great bodily harm and five years for attempted escape. "I'm saddened for both families," said Braddy's attorney, G.P. Della Fera. Maycock sobbed during the initial sentencing as she told jurors how her life without her only child would never be the same. The girl she nicknamed "Candy" had just started kindergarten and loved writing her name and singing along with the church choir. "The State is grateful that Quatisha's small voice was finally heard, and that the defendant received the sentence he so rightfully earned," prosecutor Abbe Rifkin said in a statement. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gNPY8rL...xDzQ7AD8S9VJ500 ********** Now, could one of you anti death penalty people explain to me why this disgusting piece of trash deserves to live one more minute on this earth? Because I can tell you, I would take enormous pleasure in killing him myself. |
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| bostonfanatic87 | Oct 16 2007, 09:29 AM Post #2 |
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I don't think that any person, or state in this matter, has the right to take someone's life. Just because he did it to someone else, doesn't mean that it should be done to him. the old addage that two wrongs don't make a right. And from another perspective, states with the death penalty have higher murder rates than those who do not, so it isn't a deterrant. And finally from a financial perspective, it actually costs more than life in prison because of all of the appeals. |
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| kyyankgrrl | Oct 16 2007, 09:34 AM Post #3 |
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I don't regard the death penalty as a deterrant. It is punishment for the crime committed. And the cost could be drastically reduced with the elimination of multiple appeals, particularly in a case like this where there seems to be little doubt as to his guilt. |
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| bostonfanatic87 | Oct 16 2007, 09:59 AM Post #4 |
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Then hows the human side of it? Countless innocent people haave been put to death for crimes they never committed. I don't think it's right to take another person's life, even if they killed someone else. |
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| kyyankgrrl | Oct 16 2007, 10:09 AM Post #5 |
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When there is no doubt about a person's guilt - either through DNA testing or eyewitness accounts - I have no compassion for them. And I believe the state has every right to protect society by eliminating creatures such as this man. Can you imagine, for one second, the terror that 5 yr old must have felt as alligators swam toward her and there was nothing she could do? |
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| bostonfanatic87 | Oct 16 2007, 10:16 AM Post #6 |
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how does a life sentence with no chance at parole not eliminate that person without murdering them? I can imagine it, and I feel bad that something like that happened to her, but I'm not going to throw away how I feel about human life for pity. I just do not feel that it is right to take a life. |
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| Bloss | Oct 16 2007, 10:29 AM Post #7 |
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i say throw him in a pit of aligaters and see how he likes geting eating alive |
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| kyyankgrrl | Oct 16 2007, 10:29 AM Post #8 |
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It lets him live. And in my opinion, he has given up that right. I believe he deserves the exact same compassion he gave that little girl. What sort of justice is that - forcing that little girl's mother to support him for the rest of his natural life? Oh yes, her taxes will be used to pay for his food, shelter, medical care, weight lifting equipment, etc. |
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| Edgar For Mayor | Oct 16 2007, 01:24 PM Post #9 |
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This pig deserves to die. Anyone who thinks other wise...is wrong |
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| MoRivera | Oct 16 2007, 01:43 PM Post #10 |
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thats a very easy question, kyy. Because no one has the right to kill anybody. Bottom line. The death penalty must be abolished. |
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| bostonfanatic87 | Oct 16 2007, 03:37 PM Post #11 |
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Wow, me and a (seemingly at least) conservative Yankee fan agree on something. That is odd. Although I will say, your sig scares me, her eyes are just creepin me out |
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| MoRivera | Oct 16 2007, 04:02 PM Post #12 |
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lol, I am a Republican but I have some liberal Democratic values. I don't know why Red Sox fans are anti-Death penalty though. They usually want a few players on their team dead after a series loss
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| bostonfanatic87 | Oct 16 2007, 04:15 PM Post #13 |
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I'm more in the serious physical harm boat than murder haha |
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| Cathy | Oct 16 2007, 06:04 PM Post #14 |
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I have to disagree with you on one point. I am a huge Red Sox fan, but I am also in favor of the Death penalty in certain circumstances: 1). murder of a police officer 2). first degree murder of a child under 14 (like what happened to that kid from Cambridge, MA that was thrown into a lake in NH). |
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| kyyankgrrl | Oct 17 2007, 03:41 AM Post #15 |
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Does the government have the right to punish people who commit crimes? And if it does, then shouldn't the punishment fit the crime? |
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| Element | Oct 17 2007, 01:16 PM Post #16 |
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| Element | Oct 17 2007, 01:17 PM Post #17 |
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Uh, it was a joke... being a red sox fan has nothing to do with this..... |
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| TheHugeUnit | Oct 17 2007, 02:30 PM Post #18 |
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These people are costing a lot of money to keep in jail, so I agree with it when people do bad things like talk bad agaisnt the Yankees or kill people or set up dog fighting stuff. |
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| Jayhawk Bill | Oct 17 2007, 04:51 PM Post #19 |
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The thing that makes this such a perfect qoute is the misspelling. :lol: *** Death penalty? Frankly, there are good points on either side of the debate. I used to be strongly pro-death penalty, but there's a particular case that made me reconsider my position. Nelson Mandela opposed apartheid in South Africa. In that opposition, he and his supporters commited acts of violence and sabotage. Their resistance had been peaceful at first, with Gandhi as a model, but after the Sharpeville Massacre, they had turned to bloodletting themselves. Here is how the BBC reported the conviction and sentencing of Mandela in 1964:
Nelson Mandela was imprisoned for 27 years, 18 of those years working in a quarry, receiving and sending one letter every six months. After almost three decades, Nelson Mandela was released by FW de Klerk, partly due to international pressures, but partly due to de Klerk's vision and courage. At first, it seemed that Mandela intended to return to leadership of the African National Congress violent campaign to overthrow the South African government:
In time, however, Nelson Mandela and FW de Klerk found a way to come to an agreement that returned the right to vote to black South Africans. Mandela was elected President, and he used his authority to force reconciliation within his nation. *** Had Nelson Mandela been put to death--as almost everybody had believed would happen--South Africa would likely resemble Zimbabwe today, a land on the brink of famine, where the aftermath of white rule was the destruction of the nation's infrastructure through violent redistribution of wealth, coupled with revenge. In this one case, the decision not to impose a death sentence unquestionably made the world a better place for millions. I don't unconditionally oppose the death penalty, but I would hope that its use be reserved for situations where there is very little chance that the individual sentenced might someday, somehow find a way to do some good. |
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| MoRivera | Oct 17 2007, 08:27 PM Post #20 |
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yes, we have the right to punish people who deserve punishment. Murder shouldn't be an option. |
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