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| jaysdude09 | Mar 21 2008, 07:09 PM Post #21 |
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If Manny Parra gets the gig to be the Brewers #5 starter, he is the best. The Reds also have Cueto, who's an extremely polished beast |
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| Rockshu | Mar 21 2008, 07:10 PM Post #22 |
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You put Hampton at a 3.75 ERA. Your post is funny. |
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| braveschopbraves | Mar 21 2008, 07:11 PM Post #23 |
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yeah in his 3 starts before he gets injured he'll have a 3.75 ERA
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| Mets Rule | Mar 21 2008, 07:32 PM Post #24 |
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Santana 21-7 2.54 ERA Pedro 15-9 3.63 Maine 18-8 3.72 Perez 17-9 4.08 El Duque 12-5 4.12 Eat it. Maine destroys. And I love how arrogant Rockshu is in saying that since Beckett has the most wins last year he's the best ever. Stop over exaggerating everything I say. You forget how insane this pitching staff could be with the addition of Santana. Maine now faces #3s compared to #2s last year. Perez now faces #4s compared to #3s last year. Maine got tired last year, and it showed. He's stronger and more focused this year. I'm not betting on 20 wins, but I wouldn't be surprised at all. |
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| Mets Rule | Mar 21 2008, 07:35 PM Post #25 |
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I'm saying he's not fooling hitters. Carmona has a great hard sinker which gets guys to roll over and hit into ground outs. Litsch doesn't have great stuff, and his success will be limited. I'm guessing 4.50 ERA this year. |
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| Mets Rule | Mar 21 2008, 07:37 PM Post #26 |
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73 wins from our top four is extremely possible. It's the best in the bigs. I've explained Santana's effect, don't need to again. |
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| Marlinschamps03 | Mar 21 2008, 07:48 PM Post #27 |
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I'd go with the Jays. |
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| Rockshu | Mar 21 2008, 07:53 PM Post #28 |
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You want me to eat your projection? It's a projection that you just pulled out of your ass, don't even try to pretend it's fact. |
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| jaysdude09 | Mar 21 2008, 08:00 PM Post #29 |
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Dude nobody cares who Maine is facing. The opposing pitcher has no effect on how Maine pitches(except when Maine is pitching to the opposing pitcher). And according to your projections, you have 83 wins from your roto. That is fuckin ridiculous. Yea, Maine probably won't be tired this year, and that's why I like him this year. But as much as McGowan? Not even close. |
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| jaysdude09 | Mar 21 2008, 08:02 PM Post #30 |
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He has great control, and he uses an assortment of pitches, and should have a GB rate around 50%. He had like a 48% GB rate last year, and his FB rate was good. He throws a shitload of cutters, and that's how he keeps from teeing off, and I guess it worked since his LD rate was great last year. His stuff isn't great, but you don't have to have great stuff to succeed. |
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| jaysdude09 | Mar 21 2008, 08:04 PM Post #31 |
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I hope Santana teaches Maine the circle change. |
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| Tribe No 1 Fan | Mar 21 2008, 08:11 PM Post #32 |
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Phucken Jays and Mets fans. plz stfu guys. thx a lot. No love for the Tribe? |
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| Rockshu | Mar 21 2008, 08:13 PM Post #33 |
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You've got the best 1-2 but not much after that. |
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| British_Pharaoh | Mar 21 2008, 08:13 PM Post #34 |
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Indians 2 19 game winners and the reigning Cy Young CC and Carmona a guy who has won 14+ wins in 4 of the last 5 seasons in jake Westbrook a 15 game winner in paul byrd and Cliff Lee (an 18 game winner in 2005) is our number 5 |
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| jaysdude09 | Mar 21 2008, 08:19 PM Post #35 |
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Well Westbrook is pretty solid. |
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| jaysdude09 | Mar 21 2008, 08:21 PM Post #36 |
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The Indians are full of soft throwing vets who can put up ERA's between 4-4.50. Pretty solid, especially when you line it up with a good pen, and 2 guys in the front who can throw 230IP per year. |
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| TheHugeUnit | Mar 21 2008, 08:25 PM Post #37 |
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Come on CC
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Don't sleep on the Reds, I know their park is unforgiving to them, but Harang, Crueto, Volquez, Bailey and Arroyo should put them into the top 5. I'm not saying they are the best though. |
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| TheHugeUnit | Mar 21 2008, 08:29 PM Post #38 |
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Come on CC
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Thats's so funny my nose burns. They got 5th starters beyond Billingsly. Kershaw is not going to start in the rotation. Penny is only good for 5 or 6 weeks. Then his fat ass gets tired. |
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| Mets Rule | Mar 21 2008, 08:31 PM Post #39 |
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no, it's not. Santana can easily win 20 games, and yes, since you're not very smart, let me explain. Maine/Perez RACK up wins facing pitchers who are well below the skill level they are facing. If they're giving up the same amount of runs against a pitcher who is less talented and gives up more runs, they get more wins. Very simple, actually. Maine/Perez against worse pitchers = More wins. Watch. This is how good that Santana makes the Mets. I'm not even going to argue, especially with a freaking Blue Jays fan who couldn't know less about the Mets if he tried. |
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| webgem924 | Mar 21 2008, 08:33 PM Post #40 |
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The Dbacks have a solid rotation. Webb and Haren are one of the best 1-2 combos in the league, RJ (when healthy) is solid, and Davis and Owings aren't that bad 4/5 starters |
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