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| Rockshu | Mar 21 2008, 08:41 PM Post #41 |
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Dude, outside of the first 2 weeks of the season teams don't match up 1v1 and 2v2, it gets all scrambled up. Maine and Perez will be facing basically the exact same skill of pitchers. |
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| jaysdude09 | Mar 21 2008, 08:41 PM Post #42 |
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Bills is gonna bust out, Lowe is in a contract year, Penny is solid. His ERA will jump a whole run probably, but that's still solid. Kuroda is pretty solid from what I hear....looks to me like a good groundball pitcher with a good feel for pitching. That's 4 quality starters, and Schmidt probably sucks balls now, he lost velo I hear. But that's still pretty good. Def better than the Reds. Maybe I shouldn't have said "nasty". I guess when I was typing Dodgers, the vision of Kershaw-Billingsley popped into my mind and fogged it up. |
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| jaysdude09 | Mar 21 2008, 08:46 PM Post #43 |
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I know a good bit about the Mets considering I don't watch them everyday. And who the hell cares how much wins a starter gets? Look at QS, if your looking to judge how many times a pitcher is consistently pitching well. |
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| braveschopbraves | Mar 21 2008, 08:47 PM Post #44 |
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the Mets will win 108 games this year!
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| TheHugeUnit | Mar 21 2008, 08:48 PM Post #45 |
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Bills already considered one fo the top young pitchers. I doubt he advances to a Verlander stage. Penny is good as I said, but its only for a short period of time. Just the first 2months. Then he starts bombing. Lowe is meh and getting old at 35. I'd say Bill is even to Harang. I'd take Creuto over Penny. Arroyo, Volquez and Baiely/Belise over Lowe, Kuroda and Loizia |
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| win2day | Mar 21 2008, 08:48 PM Post #46 |
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Funny, I remember posting some BS on here. The Mets rotation is good, I just don't think they are the best. Martinez is a huge question mark considering his size, workloads in the past, and injury history late in his career. Maine is good to be a nice starter. Perez is way too inconsistant. One day he'll be great, one day he'll suck. Santana should dominate. Best rotation is a bit confusing much like MVP voting is. Is it the best players in a rotation, or the ones that will put up better numbers? Because take say Daniel Cabrera and put him in the NL, and I think he has comprable numbers to Oliver Perez. But their circumstances drift them apart in rankings. Best numbers wise rotation, I'd probably say the Giants. Lincecum, Cain, Lowry, and Zito, with either Correria or Sanchez as their 5th starter. That ball park helps them as well. Best talent wise is tough. The Indians could be the ones, had they had one more good pitcher to the mix, as I'm not high on Byrd at all. It very well coulf the Jays because they have 2 really good pitchers in Halladay and McGowan, and in Burnett they have someone who is reallly good when healthy, and Marcum is a decent No. 4. Litsch sucks, so thats a negative. The RedSox have Beckett, and thats about it. I'm not high on Dice-K. Bucholz could be good. Ditto with the Yankees, all we really have is Wang, and the others are unproven till now. Could you incorporate the Rays into this? Kazmir matches up with anyone. Garza and Shields are pretty good second tier pitchers. The back end suffers a bit, so we might have to wait until Price, McGee, and/or Davis comes up. |
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| jaysdude09 | Mar 21 2008, 08:50 PM Post #47 |
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Bailey will be shit this year, Volquez will be solid but I still think his control is suspect, but he's been showing good control this spring. Cueto is a beast. His polish reminds me of Gallardo last year. Arroyo is Arroyo, and Harang is good. Milwaukee's should be roto: 1 Sheets 2 Gallardo 3 Suppan 4 Villanueva 5 Parra Great upside, except Suppan, but he's good. They also have Bush. |
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| TheHugeUnit | Mar 21 2008, 08:52 PM Post #48 |
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Come on CC
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Harang is known as the most underrated starter in the league and you just proved it. |
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| jaysdude09 | Mar 21 2008, 08:52 PM Post #49 |
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Lol Lowe is better than all of them. |
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| Rockshu | Mar 21 2008, 08:54 PM Post #50 |
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Man dicks in all your buttholes lolololololol |
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| Rockshu | Mar 21 2008, 08:55 PM Post #51 |
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Harang is an animal. Put him in PETCO and he puts up Jake Peavy numbers, guaranteed. |
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| jaysdude09 | Mar 21 2008, 08:56 PM Post #52 |
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Oh my bad. Harang is the best pitcher in the game. K? |
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| TheHugeUnit | Mar 21 2008, 08:57 PM Post #53 |
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meh I use to like Volquez, but then soured on him last year. Win2day pointed out to me that maybe he needed a change os scenery I think he even said he thought he'd be better than Ceuto this year. From what I've seen so far this spring he has been great, watching him baffle the soem fo these guys this srping has been interesting. |
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| TheHugeUnit | Mar 21 2008, 08:58 PM Post #54 |
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Come on CC
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| win2day | Mar 21 2008, 09:03 PM Post #55 |
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I thought he needed a change od scenery, but from all the places he needed to go to, Cinny wasn't one of them. He's a flyball pitcher, and in that park I don't know. Take a normal park, and I think he's good. |
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| jaysdude09 | Mar 21 2008, 09:04 PM Post #56 |
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I like him too, his stuff is great. His fastball and change are nasty, but he doesn't have much after that. Cueto has a good arsenal too, but he has much better control than Volquez....so that's why I think he'll be better this year. But Cueto's FB tendencies are gay. |
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| KeepTheFaith | Mar 21 2008, 09:17 PM Post #57 |
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do you think that teams coordinate who they're starting based on who the other team is starting? ace vs. ace, 2 vs. 2, 3 vs. 3 etc lasts for about the first week of the season. |
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| KeepTheFaith | Mar 21 2008, 09:25 PM Post #58 |
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lol are you kidding? 73 wins from four starters? let's look at one of the best top 4's in recent memory, the 2003 Oakland A's. That team won 103 games and their top 4 of Zito, Hudson, Lidle and Mulder combined for 65 wins. Now considering that those 4 are pretty easily better than New York's four, 73 wins will never ever ever ever happen. |
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| Crushed Optimism | Mar 21 2008, 09:42 PM Post #59 |
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hella fithy two oh sickness
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None of you noobs mentioned the Mariners? They play in the best pitching park in the AL, Felix and Bedard should be CY canidates, and the rest are league average or above. Not the best, but good. What do you guys think are the best 1-2's? Here are some really good ones: Sabathia/Carmona Bedard/Felix Hernandez Beckett/Matsuzaka Webb/Haren Lackey/Escobar ??? |
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| Papelmate | Mar 21 2008, 09:44 PM Post #60 |
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the goddamn papelmate
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the redsox because they dont buy their players like da yanks do |
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