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| Bloss | Jul 25 2008, 05:08 PM Post #41 |
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AL MVP Josh Hamilton Cy Young Roy Halladay Rookie Evan Longoria NL MVP Pat Burrell Cy Young Tim Lincecum(It will be CC by time the year is done) Rookie Soto |
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| jaysdude09 | Jul 25 2008, 07:45 PM Post #42 |
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Burrell? |
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| NateFizzle | Jul 25 2008, 07:54 PM Post #43 |
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Chase Utley and Ryan Howard beat him from the same team. |
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| Mets Rule | Jul 25 2008, 07:56 PM Post #44 |
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Mr. Mojo Risin'
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Yeah Howard and the .220 AVG. |
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| Bloss | Jul 25 2008, 07:57 PM Post #45 |
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Dudes having a great year. Figured I would show him some love. Take him out of that lineup the Phillies wouldnt be where they are rignt now. |
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| NateFizzle | Jul 25 2008, 07:58 PM Post #46 |
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He leads the NL in homers and RBI. He does his job. His job is to knock in runs, not get on base a ton. |
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| Mets Rule | Jul 25 2008, 08:45 PM Post #47 |
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Where are the Phillies? Two games back? |
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| Mets Rule | Jul 25 2008, 09:50 PM Post #48 |
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BTW, for all the people saying Utley for MVP: Utley = .115 with RISP since June 4th |
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| braveschopbraves | Jul 25 2008, 09:59 PM Post #49 |
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I guess my NL MVP top 10 would be 1 Berkman 2 Chipper 3 Pujols 4 Hanley 5 Holliday 6 Utley 7 Reyes 8 McCann 9 Burrell 10 D Wright |
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| Creighton | Jul 25 2008, 10:35 PM Post #50 |
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They would be 8-10 with out Big Pat. |
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| redsoxabstract | Jul 25 2008, 10:49 PM Post #51 |
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-3.5 VORP!!@!!!1
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It's a trend. The third best Phillie won it last year. |
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| braveschopbraves | Jul 25 2008, 11:22 PM Post #52 |
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Pitchers can win ROY too.. Campillo, Lannan, Jurrjens all have a higher VORP I'd give the ROY to Jurrjens he has a 3.02 ERA... |
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| redsoxabstract | Jul 25 2008, 11:35 PM Post #53 |
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Yeah, I totally forgot about VORP for pitchers. But they're really not the same thing, anyway. They share a name, but the formulas are completely different. VORP for position players is a purely offensive metric. The formula for pitchers is a bit more flawed. Jurrjens has still been pretty amazing (128 ERA+!), especially for an age 22 season, and he's right there with Soto. If the season were to end right now, I wouldn't be disappointed with either choice. I tend to favor offensive players when it comes to awards, though, because they play everyday. Really, that's a pretty big flaw when it comes to awards where pitchers and hitters are both eligible. It's comparing apples to oranges. |
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| braveschopbraves | Jul 25 2008, 11:41 PM Post #54 |
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| redsoxabstract | Jul 25 2008, 11:55 PM Post #55 |
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Yeah. If that trend continues (which I don't expect it to really, at least not THAT drastically), it's definitely Jurrjens. Then again, Jurrjen's DERA is 4.07, so the defense behind him is giving him quite a bit of help. Ah, who cares? They're both awesome. |
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| Rockshu | Jul 26 2008, 07:06 PM Post #56 |
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Duke's ERA rose half a point today after facing the Rangers and he gets the Red Sox next weak. His Cy Young chances are done. It was only a matter of time before the real offenses caught up to him -- you can only face the hapless Mariners and Angels' offense so many times in a year. |
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| Rockshu | Jul 26 2008, 07:09 PM Post #57 |
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Btw I thought I gave my votes in this thread but my post is gone.. |
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| hankaaron44 | Jul 27 2008, 11:21 PM Post #58 |
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Yeah Jurrjens has been unbelievable this year. What a great trade Jon Schuerholz sending Edgar Rentaria to Detroit for a couple of prospects. |
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| jaysdude09 | Jul 28 2008, 12:01 AM Post #59 |
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That looks like one of the worst trades ever now |
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| TheHugeUnit | Jul 28 2008, 09:04 AM Post #60 |
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Come on CC
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The Tex trade is the worst trade I've seen. |
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