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Topic Started: Aug 17 2008, 12:05 PM (1,404 Views)
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webgem924,Aug 18 2008
05:57 PM
imho that's way too steep for those 2 players

Maybe take out Wright. Kennedy has to go, cause he'll always be a nobody with the Yankees. Aviles and Dejesus are significantly better than Cano and Cabrera, in most of the offensive categories.
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First is to cash in on picks with Moose, Abreu, Pudge, Marte, Giambi and if Pettitte doesn't retire let him go back to the Astros.


Umm...you do know you have to offer these guys arbitration right? I think a lot of them will accept arbitration to stay with the Yanks.

Who would? only guy I could see would accept is Giambi.

Giambi, Mussina, Pettite, and Pudge would all accept arbitration.

In arbitration you can't make anything less than 80% of your previous year's salary, so Giambi and Pudge would get a whole lot more money by accepting arbitration than going to free agency and getting a half assed deal.

Moose won't. He wants a two year deal, he's not going to get that from us. He wants to be closer to home too, he even said he might retire after this year around the all star break. Phillies should jump on him.

Pudge won't since he doesn't want to be backup... Look at how he bitched in Detriot. Pettite all you have to do is go to him and say don't and he wouldn't. He's that type of person. Giambi would I think edited my post to say he might.
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Maybe take out Wright. Kennedy has to go, cause he'll always be a nobody with the Yankees. Aviles and Dejesus are significantly better than Cano and Cabrera, in most of the offensive categories.

LOL, man we had an offer of Kemp and Lowe for Cano and we turned them down. Why would we trade Cano for Aviles?
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I don't think you should let Pettitte and Moose walk. I think bring both back, definitely Pettitte, and Moose only if he'll take under 10 Mil. Let Giambi, Abreu, Pudge, and Marte walk, and extend Jeter until he feels he'd be done playing Baseball.

I like the Tino idea.

Nooo to moose, he had a great year but its all down here from here. Let him go out with new york on top, hopefully 20 wins.

I'd really love for Tino to be a minor league coach, he's amazing with the kids in college. I really hate Mechum though...

Also don't extend jeter, extend him when his contract is up since thats when his value will be lowest. If you extrend him now, you'll have to pay 15 million a year. If you extend him in 2011 you could get him even cheaper.

true, I'll accept that argument.

And you must be fucking kidding me about Jeter right? Irregardless of his value, he's the fucking captain of the Yankees. To not extend him till the end of his career is not only stupid, but its a punch in the face to Jeter. I can care less what his VALUE is, he's the captain.
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And you must be fucking kidding me about Jeter right? Irregardless of his value, he's the fucking captain of the Yankees. To not extend him till the end of his career is not only stupid, but its a punch in the face to Jeter. I can care less what his VALUE is, he's the captain.

Hey he punched me in the face everytime he grounds into a double play. I've lost feeling on my left side. I'm not going to hand him 20 million when he's 37.
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Hey he punched me in the face everytime he grounds into a double play. I've lost feeling on my left side. I'm not going to hand him 20 million when he's 37.

At least he deserves an extension the year BEFORE his contract's up. He shouldn't have to earn his contract for the Yankees. He's like Bernie or Mo, I couldn't stomach if he wore another uniform other then pinstripes.
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At least he deserves an extension the year BEFORE his contract's up. He shouldn't have to earn his contract for the Yankees. He's like Bernie or Mo, I couldn't stomach if he wore another uniform other then pinstripes.

Jeter isn't going to jump ship.... I'm just saying we did this mo and posada, why should we slap them in the faces by extending jeter after a sub par season? Hey if he wants to sign a 3 years/30 million extension fine by me, if not then meh I can wait him out.
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I don't think you should let Pettitte and Moose walk. I think bring both back, definitely Pettitte, and Moose only if he'll take under 10 Mil. Let Giambi, Abreu, Pudge, and Marte walk, and extend Jeter until he feels he'd be done playing Baseball.

I like the Tino idea.

Nooo to moose, he had a great year but its all down here from here. Let him go out with new york on top, hopefully 20 wins.

I'd really love for Tino to be a minor league coach, he's amazing with the kids in college. I really hate Mechum though...

Also don't extend jeter, extend him when his contract is up since thats when his value will be lowest. If you extrend him now, you'll have to pay 15 million a year. If you extend him in 2011 you could get him even cheaper.

true, I'll accept that argument.

And you must be fucking kidding me about Jeter right? Irregardless of his value, he's the fucking captain of the Yankees. To not extend him till the end of his career is not only stupid, but its a punch in the face to Jeter. I can care less what his VALUE is, he's the captain.

type of attitude that has put your team in its current situation
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Rockshu,Aug 18 2008
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I LOL at some of you people's offers to Burnett. He's passing on 2/24. 2/10 and 3/30 are not upgrades.

He's gonna want 3/40+, most likely 3/45 or 4/50 based on what the market for good pitching is like these days.

Didn't Carlos Silva get 4/50? If I'm Burnett I'd look for more money than that
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I would also give Russell Branyan a contract and make him the DH. He would cost under $2 mil a year but I know he can't hit (average wise), but the problem with the Blue Jays this year is that no one can hit for power. But given 162 games, I think can hit 30 HR's, and if it means something, he might be able to push Overbay into playing better.
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I don't think you should let Pettitte and Moose walk. I think bring both back, definitely Pettitte, and Moose only if he'll take under 10 Mil. Let Giambi, Abreu, Pudge, and Marte walk, and extend Jeter until he feels he'd be done playing Baseball.

I like the Tino idea.

Nooo to moose, he had a great year but its all down here from here. Let him go out with new york on top, hopefully 20 wins.

I'd really love for Tino to be a minor league coach, he's amazing with the kids in college. I really hate Mechum though...

Also don't extend jeter, extend him when his contract is up since thats when his value will be lowest. If you extrend him now, you'll have to pay 15 million a year. If you extend him in 2011 you could get him even cheaper.

true, I'll accept that argument.

And you must be fucking kidding me about Jeter right? Irregardless of his value, he's the fucking captain of the Yankees. To not extend him till the end of his career is not only stupid, but its a punch in the face to Jeter. I can care less what his VALUE is, he's the captain.

type of attitude that has put your team in its current situation

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Fuck Jeter, if you can't produce why the hell should you be making 10+ mil? Doesn't he have like a .745 OPS?
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First is to cash in on picks with Moose, Abreu, Pudge, Marte, Giambi and if Pettitte doesn't retire let him go back to the Astros.


Umm...you do know you have to offer these guys arbitration right? I think a lot of them will accept arbitration to stay with the Yanks.

Who would? only guy I could see would accept is Giambi.

Giambi, Mussina, Pettite, and Pudge would all accept arbitration.

In arbitration you can't make anything less than 80% of your previous year's salary, so Giambi and Pudge would get a whole lot more money by accepting arbitration than going to free agency and getting a half assed deal.

Moose won't. He wants a two year deal, he's not going to get that from us. He wants to be closer to home too, he even said he might retire after this year around the all star break. Phillies should jump on him.

Pudge won't since he doesn't want to be backup... Look at how he bitched in Detriot. Pettite all you have to do is go to him and say don't and he wouldn't. He's that type of person. Giambi would I think edited my post to say he might.

Moose and Giambi would both accept in a heartbeat IMO. I think this is Pettites last year, so he won't get you a pick either. Pudge is a toss up. He may not like being the backup, but he will make more money with the Yanks next year than any other offer he gets.
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First is to cash in on picks with Moose, Abreu, Pudge, Marte, Giambi and if Pettitte doesn't retire let him go back to the Astros.


Umm...you do know you have to offer these guys arbitration right? I think a lot of them will accept arbitration to stay with the Yanks.

Who would? only guy I could see would accept is Giambi.

Giambi, Mussina, Pettite, and Pudge would all accept arbitration.

In arbitration you can't make anything less than 80% of your previous year's salary, so Giambi and Pudge would get a whole lot more money by accepting arbitration than going to free agency and getting a half assed deal.

Moose won't. He wants a two year deal, he's not going to get that from us. He wants to be closer to home too, he even said he might retire after this year around the all star break. Phillies should jump on him.

Pudge won't since he doesn't want to be backup... Look at how he bitched in Detriot. Pettite all you have to do is go to him and say don't and he wouldn't. He's that type of person. Giambi would I think edited my post to say he might.

Moose and Giambi would both accept in a heartbeat IMO. I think this is Pettites last year, so he won't get you a pick either. Pudge is a toss up. He may not like being the backup, but he will make more money with the Yanks next year than any other offer he gets.

Pettitte isn't done. He has shown desire to pitch in the new stadium, and I think he'll be brought back for next year, but for way less then 16 mil.
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I meant to say back with the Yankees or done next year. I dont see him pitching for Astros.
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This is an off-year for Jeter. Ever since he was hit on the wrist in mid-May he hasn't been the same.
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I don't think you should let Pettitte and Moose walk. I think bring both back, definitely Pettitte, and Moose only if he'll take under 10 Mil. Let Giambi, Abreu, Pudge, and Marte walk, and extend Jeter until he feels he'd be done playing Baseball.

I like the Tino idea.

Nooo to moose, he had a great year but its all down here from here. Let him go out with new york on top, hopefully 20 wins.

I'd really love for Tino to be a minor league coach, he's amazing with the kids in college. I really hate Mechum though...

Also don't extend jeter, extend him when his contract is up since thats when his value will be lowest. If you extrend him now, you'll have to pay 15 million a year. If you extend him in 2011 you could get him even cheaper.

true, I'll accept that argument.

And you must be fucking kidding me about Jeter right? Irregardless of his value, he's the fucking captain of the Yankees. To not extend him till the end of his career is not only stupid, but its a punch in the face to Jeter. I can care less what his VALUE is, he's the captain.

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First is to cash in on picks with Moose, Abreu, Pudge, Marte, Giambi and if Pettitte doesn't retire let him go back to the Astros.


Umm...you do know you have to offer these guys arbitration right? I think a lot of them will accept arbitration to stay with the Yanks.

Who would? only guy I could see would accept is Giambi.

Giambi, Mussina, Pettite, and Pudge would all accept arbitration.

In arbitration you can't make anything less than 80% of your previous year's salary, so Giambi and Pudge would get a whole lot more money by accepting arbitration than going to free agency and getting a half assed deal.

Moose won't. He wants a two year deal, he's not going to get that from us. He wants to be closer to home too, he even said he might retire after this year around the all star break. Phillies should jump on him.

Pudge won't since he doesn't want to be backup... Look at how he bitched in Detriot. Pettite all you have to do is go to him and say don't and he wouldn't. He's that type of person. Giambi would I think edited my post to say he might.

Moose and Giambi would both accept in a heartbeat IMO. I think this is Pettites last year, so he won't get you a pick either. Pudge is a toss up. He may not like being the backup, but he will make more money with the Yanks next year than any other offer he gets.

Moose worked hard this year, no way he takes a one year 11 million contract. He could get a 2year 24 million deal from the Phillies. Why would they, his kind of a hometown guy there, he can replace Moyer in the rotation. Hamels, Moose, Blanton, Eaton and Myers. Pretty good rotation. Moose could pitch better in the NL and the Phillies offense could help him out when he isn't good.
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I meant to say back with the Yankees or done next year. I dont see him pitching for Astros.

Astros owners said his biggst mistake wasletting Pettitte go. He wants him back, andy wants to play next year, for the Yankees...but if we told him we don't want him back and offered him arbi he would decline it.
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First is to cash in on picks with Moose, Abreu, Pudge, Marte, Giambi and if Pettitte doesn't retire let him go back to the Astros.


Umm...you do know you have to offer these guys arbitration right? I think a lot of them will accept arbitration to stay with the Yanks.

Who would? only guy I could see would accept is Giambi.

Giambi, Mussina, Pettite, and Pudge would all accept arbitration.

In arbitration you can't make anything less than 80% of your previous year's salary, so Giambi and Pudge would get a whole lot more money by accepting arbitration than going to free agency and getting a half assed deal.

Moose won't. He wants a two year deal, he's not going to get that from us. He wants to be closer to home too, he even said he might retire after this year around the all star break. Phillies should jump on him.

Pudge won't since he doesn't want to be backup... Look at how he bitched in Detriot. Pettite all you have to do is go to him and say don't and he wouldn't. He's that type of person. Giambi would I think edited my post to say he might.

Moose and Giambi would both accept in a heartbeat IMO. I think this is Pettites last year, so he won't get you a pick either. Pudge is a toss up. He may not like being the backup, but he will make more money with the Yanks next year than any other offer he gets.

Moose worked hard this year, no way he takes a one year 11 million contract. He could get a 2year 24 million deal from the Phillies. Why would they, his kind of a hometown guy there, he can replace Moyer in the rotation. Hamels, Moose, Blanton, Eaton and Myers. Pretty good rotation. Moose could pitch better in the NL and the Phillies offense could help him out when he isn't good.

Lol not Eaton

Carrasco could be in the rotation next year, but Kendrick would be in it over Eaton
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- Keep Brian Roberts and maybe trade him if we get an unresistable offer
- Trade Aubrey Huff, Luke Scott, Melvin Mora, George Sherrill for handful of prospects and a shortstop
- Let Millar go into FA
- Sign AJ Burnett for 10M for 2yrs = 5M per year but nothing more
- Trade Daniel Cabrera, that guy can't find consistency over his 5 years of MLB
- Sign Markakis to long-term
- Sign CC to make the rotation, CC, Guthrie one two punch
- Give Trembley a lifetime extension
- Bid in Teixeira's race so Yankees can make an outrageous offer
- Peter Angelos sells the team to Cal

Burnett is not going to sign for junk change. He'll have to get more than 12 million per season and at least 3 years.

I know that, but I don't want any injury proned overpaid pitcher in O's while we should be rebuilding unless he can eat up innings affectively so we can rest the bullpen more. So unless we can get him cheap, I'm saying don't sign him.
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